Bahamas Anyone?

Brent:
Your gonna love it in the Keys. Have a blast. Still hope to catch up with you before heading to the Bahamas in late Feb or early March. Let me know if your still planning to do this leg of your adventure. It would be great to travel with another cat or two. Hint hint: Molly Brown/Thataway... :mrgreen:
I have friends in North Port who may be able to keep your rig while your cruising the Keys and Western Fla. They live near Charlotte Harbor if that work for you? Let me know.
I too am retired and it's certainly the best job I ever had.
FRED
 
C-Brats,
Everyone thinking of going to the Bahamas probably has all the charts and books already, but I have been trying to figure out how to post charts with overlays. The infernal machine finally convinced me that I can't get there from here. Keeps saying it can't transfer MMO files. Or you need Maptech to open the file . So I printed the chart, than scanned it, ( into a Jpeg ) Now I have uploaded it to my photo album. It was the route we usually do in the Bahamas. It is zoomed out where it roughly gives the course. Starts in Riviera Beach and ends in Little Harbour. Does anyone know how to send raster charts an easier way? I will blow up a few points of interest with good beaches and anchorages if anyone is interested.
Captd :P
 
CaptD's route out of Riviera Beach is the same route we use and the easiest/safest in our experience for the northern Bahamas. We've never bothered to check, and never had a problem, leaving our truck and trailer at the city's ramp which is actually a small island in the Intercoastal, but if anyone does check we'd be interested in their rules.
 
We will begin our winter Florida cruising from the Punta Gorda area about Jan. 15th. We will go south and eventually to the Keys. Plan to return up the east side, then back through the Okeechobee waterway to the west coast. If a Bahamas crossing gets organized, we will be available. We will keep following this thread along the way.
 
If you're leaving from Punta Gorda, you might consider storing your trailer and tow vehicle at Charlotte Harbor Boat Storage. They are on the other side of Charlotte Harbor, near Gasparilla. When I cruised the West Coast of Florida in '05, I stored mine there for a couple of months. The cost was very reasonable. Access in and out is tricky for a deep draft boat, but C-Dorys should have no problem. They were nice people to work with. Their website has contact info and boat storage rates, but it doesn't say much about vehicle/trailer storage.
 
I spoke with Parks and the Sheriff, and was told that parking at Riviera Beach is overnight only. I don't see anything to this effect in their posted rules, but that's what they said, and I am reluctant to press the matter by just showing up, leaving the rig there for an extended stay, and expecting it to be there, as opposed to at the impound lot, when I return.

So, I'll make a few more phone calls, and let you know what I can find out. If anyone else has information, how about sharing, and we'll come up with something which everyone can use.

david
 
If I remember correctly, there are several military bases close to the tip of Florida, maybe some of us retired folks can store our truck/trailers there... anyone tried that before ?? They sure would be safe on base...

Joel
USNR
Engineman Senior Chief Retired (gets me good discounts at hotels)
SEA3PO
 
SEA3PO":h19bu7l0 said:
They sure would be safe on base...

Joel
USNR
Engineman Senior Chief Retired (gets me good discounts at hotels)
SEA3PO

Short term ( up to 30 days) usually isn't a problem Talk to the recreation department or (especially) the folks who are in charge of long term RV storage or FAMCAMP if the base has one. Security gets all anal about parking so leave them for last, at least at Navy installations. Air Farce folk are a little easier going, especially if they're into military hops and have transient parking. Long term is a pain to get in to, but once established you've got a secure spot for as long as you pays yer fees. Our RV has a spot on Camp Pendelton - $28/mo currently. Fenced and within sight of armed sentrys. Jenny B trailer at MCRD, fenced and also $28/mo. Some have long waiting lists though, especially in popular areas.

Hey Joel, I'm a Master Chief Retired, but you don't have to be formal with me, just call me by my first name . . . Master. (Now if I could only get Mary to do that.)
 
Hi
This trip sound's great, We have just purchased a C-Dory and have not got any experiance with any off shore travels. I have just got a GPS for the C-Dory and got a lot learn, would this trip be too much for one that knows a little to take it with others who knows what to do and where to go?
Thanks Jim
 
Pandy Girl,

I don't think the trip would be too much for you, particularly since it appears there may be a group forming-up, but you might consider:

1) If you haven't done much boating (or even if you have, for that matter), take a USCG/Aux or Power Squadron Basic Boater Course and maybe a coastal navigation course if you can squeeze it in.

2) Do some "towing ground school" with your rig. Take it to a large (empty) shopping mall early Sunday morning before they open, and practice towing/backing into empty parking spaces. The confidence you'll gain will be invaluable when you're really road ready. (Hint: if you can "practice" with an empty boat trailer it's easier.)

3) While the boat is parked in the driveway (or wherever) think and study where you want to store the necessary items you'll want to take on a multi-day or multi-week trip. C-Dory's are GREAT boats, but small, and having what you need thoughtfully stored will come in Real handy.

4) Take some day-training-trips. Your purpose isn't really to see stuff...it's for you and your crew to become comfortable with their respective responsibilities (launching, docking, knots, underway, retrieval, etc.). Find a quiet place with plenty of maneuvering room at the marina and practice both port and starboard docking.

5) When YOU feel you're ready, take off for an overnight aboard Pandy Girl. With your new found skills and comfort level you will find that being onboard for an overnight really opens up new ideas and opportunities. You may be the Captain, but discuss ALL new items with the Admiral beforehand. I've found the Admiral often has some Very good organizational ideas. Only a fool fails to listen to the Admiral.

6) I recommend the first overnight or two be done tied securely in a marina. Become familiar with the mysteries of the PortaPoddy, Wallas or Origo stove, shore power, sleeping in a berth, electricity discipline (you're on batteries remember?), how to arrange your deck chairs, mixing a scotch while onboard a the end of the day ... oops, I got diverted. When you're comfortable - go out for a few days and hone your boat camping technique. Practice anchoring in various locations. Have lunch at anchor - and watch to see if you're dragging anchor (drifting). Now try sleeping overnight at anchor ... hee, hee, hee. (Don't feel bad if sleep is a little elusive the first night or two.) By all means DISCUSS IDEAS and find new (sometimes inventive) ways to adapt boatcamping to YOUR lifestyle.

7) Whilst doing all this keep careful track of your fuel consumption and mileage. You'll gain useful insights regarding navigation, fuel burn, and performance information. Aim at getting a real understanding of what kind of range you have (or don't have...) under varying conditions and loads. Armed with this information you can make useful judgements regarding how much (if any) extra fuel you must carry for a given trip or cruise. (Remember: Scotch goes in the yellow jerry cans, and wine goes in the blue jerry cans, and if you have room for it gasoline goes in the red cans.) Determine priorities.

8) While doing all this, enjoy endless hours of discussion of the finer points of how you want to manage/adapt Pandy Girl for your particular type of boating. Things like galley and food storage, the kind of reading light for EACH berth, what kind of glasses to have onboard (answer: Acrylic or Tervis), what items to put on your various pre-departure checklists, what boating guidebooks to purchase, Navigations chips, necessary boat jewelry to buy (hint: we've found an XM radio and some small cheap Radio Shack speakers is (are?) great), proper cooler and ice "management" ...Lordy, the list goes on and on!

Goodness, this email has grown longer than I intended, and you have your work cut out(!) but it WILL BE FUN! You certainly have time to do your own "boat school" before Bahama's, but you may have to apply yourself. You'll never have a more-fun (work) assignment!

Now get out there and DO it!

C-BRAT's: What have I forgotten?

Casey
C-Dory Naknek
 
Thanks for all the infomation, I will see if I can find some boating Classes. I will take all of the info. with high Respect. I know it good to have a lot of experance to.
You answered what I was looking for.
Thanks again
Jim
 
Pandy Girl,
I would try and get some serious boating experience on the ICW before attemting a crossing of the Gulf Stream. Certainly agree with the Power Squadren/CG aux courses--or if you are a single female, there are classes for "Woman Aboard" (an organization).

You will probably want a GPS/chart plotter and dept finder as well as paper charts. You will need to know how to plot a course, do position finding both by GPS and other means, such as triangulation. You will need to know the effect of currents on plotting your course for crossing the Gulf Stream.

The only reason I am a bit pesmestic about someone with minimal experience on a crossing of this nature, is if things go downhill- it can become everyone person for himself. I have seen "Flotellas" which disolved when the going really got rough--and it can on a gulf stream crossing. I have seen boats promise to stay with other boats and then run ahead--or I have seen some boats stick it out even with some risk to them selves to help others. So if you do go, have a very clear understanding about what boat will stick with you. For example, in some conditions a CD 22 may be best at 10 to 12 knots and a Tom Cat 255 may do better at 25 knots. The other risk would be if you decided to turn back--and no other boat was willing to escort you and abort their crossing.

So...take a lot of your time in the next couple of months to do trips--one to two nights at first, in good weather. Then venture out when it is a little rougher.

Good luck--and I hope that we see you on a crossing in the next few months.
 
I started reading the Key West newspaper on line and found several advertisements for dock rentals...not too expensive...and several for storage.... the cheepest at $3 ft with a $70 min month.... not too bad...I didnt't measure the rig but assume it to be about 50' long...$150 month ?.. not so bad I guess, especially since that puts you at Key West starting out...not so bad....heck I once parked in the wrong spot at LAX and it cost me that much... I haven't checked the military bases yet but that will be my prefered parking....especially since I don't want to use my truck and will leave it for at least a month.

Joel
SEA3PO
 
There are dry storage facilities at both KWNAS and the Sigsbee FamCamp, but both have a wait-list for spaces. (We've been on "the List" for a couple years and got a call two months ago that they finally had a space for our travel trailer).

Also, you might try:
Big Pine Storage ($1.75/ft per month, MileMarker 30) TEL: 305-872-2590
Sundance Self-Storage ($30/mo for 30' space, MileMarker 26.5) TEL: 305-872-0252

Casey
C-Dory Naknek
 
Thanks Casey, thats just the info I was looking for..... I always worry about where I am going to leave the truck/trailer ....never had a problem but also never been to Florida.

Thanks

Joel
SEA3PO
 
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Just learned how to post the chart, Thought i should try it out.

In one day from Riviera Beach to West End, you can clear customs and continue on to Great Sale Cay, for the 1st nights anchorage. Nice thing about the C-Dory is you can go half way into the bay and find a slight channel to the north. It will take you to an old land fill type landing. Good place for dog potty. Big draft boats have to stay out in the middle of the bay.
To get here, line up your course to the north end of Mangrove Cay, than on to Great sale. Good shelter from the weather. Next day on to Fox town, Fish Cays, and Allen's Pensacola. spend lots of time there...sneak around the north end and snorkel the coral heads, be sure to take your pole spear. Look for conch, hog fish, and lobster (in season of course). Grouper and Jew fish as well. Maybe a little baby shark as well. If you don't want to share your fish with them. Hold what ever you spear out of the water as you head for the boat. Same as keeping your hamburger out of reach of your doggie.
captd
 
Just bring this to the front again. We launched in Punta Gorda on 1/12 and have started working our way south. Now in Naples at the City Dock. We will go on toward Key West over the next weeks. Still interested in a Bahamas crossing if it gets organized. We will be on the water until 3/13 or later.
 
Hi Brent and Dixie,

We are headed that way as soon as this chilly weather breaks (probably by this weekend). Heading to Naples first, then to the Keys. No schedule, no reservations... sounds like we may a week or two behind you. We'll be looking for you.

Best wishes,
Jim B.
 
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