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Wandering Sagebrush

Free Range Human
I should probably start this thread with something like:

Hi, my name is Steve and I have a problem. I am addicted to (Boats/Cameras/Flyrods/fill in the blank). Your response is "Hi Steve".

So this post is to all of the geologists and photographers in the group. I am off to Death Valley next week, and would like to get your inside scoop on the must sees for the best sites to visit. I want to do some landscape photography, as well as photograph any of the local critters. Any great suggestions?

Here's a link to the kind of photos I am currently taking...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephen_parsons/

Thanks in advance!

Steve
 
Hi Steve, (how's that?)

A glance at your photography shows that you have a good eye. That's not a casual comment... before I retired, I was an Internationally Affiliated Photographic Juror, judging professional photography. It's been 15 years or so since we were in Death Valley, so I can't tell you the highpoints to photograph... but, I hope you'll post a link to the photos you shoot there.

Best wishes,
Jim B.
 
"Hi Steve"

Nice photo's, all of them. Not having been there, I can't tell you much except:

Be sure to shake your shoes out in the mornings, -- scorpions --. Had a friend there who didn't and got a nasty sting.

Hope the flowers come out for you, Dave had some incredible desert flower pictures.

Enjoy,

Harvey
SleepyC
 
We drive through Death Valley about 6 to 8 times per year. There are a lot of great photo stops, the dunes are ever changing, neat rock formations, etc that change as lighting changes with the time of day.

While this is the cool time of year you will still want water along as it is dry unless there is a flash flood from rain on the mountains. Do watch for storm clouds.

Pretty early for flowers. In 2005 they came out in late February in response to the record rainfall in January -- we had 4" in Las Vegas in January 2005, a year's worth of rain. I am out of town this week so not up on the totals but recall only 2+" reported in 2009.

Enjoy your trip.

Bill Uffelman
Grandparenting in Otford UK
Usually in Las Vegas NV
 
Thanks everyone for the feedback on what to do and what to see/photograph.

A special thanks for the kind words about the photography. Since I retired, it has become a bit of a passion. The digital revolution in photography makes the learning process so much quicker.
 
Hi Steve -

Death Valley is our old 'stomping ground.' Here are some ideas ... and write if you want more info.

The sand dunes at dawn or dusk (with Devil's Cornfield nearby [stalks of veggies gripping moving sand into mounds); drive westerly (one way road) down Titus Canyon (dirt, but great and often not-visited sites, mines, 'ghost town' at Leadfield; visit Ubehebe Crater in north end of park (a volcanic explosion crater, great photo stop with low light to accentuate depth); Keane Wonder Mill and a walk to the Mine (great shots of historic sites; Aguereberry Point (for way up on top views down into the expanse of the Valley - good in late pm with western light behind you); Zabriskie Point for bright yellows and good color (I like high mid-morning eastern light there); if you like some good walks, Hole in the Wall and Echo Canyons are great; Dante's View for way up on top views from the east looking westerly into the Valley (great in early morning light); Artist's Drive is an obvious and often photographed area with lots of color (best in early pm); Badwater and Devil's Golf Course for salt mounds, flats, and puddle way below sea level; Natural Bridge Canyon, for a short walk to the bridge; Saratoga Spring (way south, for a marvelous spring in the desert - good veggies, birds, etc - we loved to camp there and call coyotes); Salt Creek Trail for birds, desert pupfish, and riparian vegetation; Mustard Canyon and Harmony Borax works for bright yellow shales and the remains of the old Borax Works .... ah and so many more. We spent one winter, almost every weekend, backpacking and camping in virtually every side canyon in Death Valley, with our kids. The memories. We found a small canyon, carved out of marble, with marble potholes filled with water - we skinny dipped in Death Valley! Almost lost our daughter there, when she lost footing above a sheer drop and El grabbed her by the collar as she was skidding past her ...

Death Valley is a magic place and a paradise for a great photographer like you -have a wonderful time.
 
El and Bill, thanks a bunch for all the hints. I thought you would have a couple of neat spots to recommend.

It was a good day at the refuge..... Yup, I escaped with the camera.

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I have driven thru the death valley area many times in the winter and really liked it.

I have also lived in the high desert of twenty nine palms for three years. Much of it in the field training. I don't know if you have but please be careful. Every year people die of two things in the desert, lack of water and drowning. Thats right lack of or too much water will get you every time. And heres the really strange thing, most of the folks that drown in a flash flood never got rained on. It's the rain in the mountains miles away that can kill you in the desert. I all most lost a car on a back road one night because I was not aware of the 4 feet of water in the dry gulch ( thats the name of it on the sign)next to the road. It had undercut the road and the road fell off under one side of the car. We, nice guy in a truck with a chain, pulled it out but I had to leave it over night a mile later because of a wash out.

be careful and keep your eyes open.
 
Beautiful photos, Steve. The Landscape set and those Wallowa Kokanee were spectacular! It's hard to believe what a beautiful region we live in.

Would you share what digital camera you're using? I've been looking into the digital slr's and would appreciate whatever advice you have to offer.
 
Kathleen,

I am using Nikons. One is a D300, and the other is a D300s. These both have the APS-C sensors with 12.3 mega pixels. I went with these cameras because of the sensor size, and the burst rate of images per second. They also will allow me to use my old Nikkor film era lenses.

The APS C sensor is smaller than the old "35 mm" film size, and because of that there is a gain in the effective focal length of a lens. It varies between manufacturers, but is usually about 50% more. In essence, a 400mm lens has the reach of a 600mm lens.

I shoot multiple exposures on wildlife, hence the need for a high burst rate. I get about 8 images a second, but usually shot about 3 or 4 exposures per press of the shutter.

Although the cameras with APS C size sensors are fantastic cameras, if you are not going to specialize in wildlife photography, you might consider a "full size" sensor. These have sensors that are roughly the same size as 35mm film, typically have higher pixel counts, and the focal length of the lens is not given the "boost" that an APS C sensor provides. These cameras are wonderful for landscape and portrait type work. They have great image quality and resolution. Another up and coming sensor system is Four Thirds, which is again smaller than even APS C. This makes for physically smaller cameras and lenses.

Where as you can sink a bunch of money into camera bodies, you can really sink money into lenses. When you purchase a camera with a "kit" lens, you get a good lens, but usually not a great lens. Kit lenses are normally entry level and don't have the quality optics that a pro lens has. The kit lenses are great for snapshots. Most are zooms that range from around 18mm to 200mm focal lengths, with an aperture that will open up to about f3.5. They normally do not open as wide as a prime lens.

For landscape, I use a Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 lens. For wildlife, I use a Nikkor 200-400mm f4.0 VR and an old Nikkor 600mm f4 manual focus lens. Something to consider is the "VR" (Canon calls it IS) feature that I mentioned. This stands for Vibration Reduction or Image Stabilization (Canon), and allows you to shoot hand held in more situations (versus shooting on a tripod or bean bag). VR really makes a difference!!! Some camera makers use in body stabilization, rather than the lens based stabilization that Nikon and Canon use.

Consider getting a good quality tripod and head when you purchase, as well as a few filters. A polarizing filter, plus a few neutral density filters (allows you to slow down the shutter and open the aperture). I am torn about UV or haze filters. Typically, people say that they protect the lens, and I have seen them save an expensive lens when dropped. I am beginning to believe that they introduce a bit of variance in the autofocus systems, resulting in somewhat less crisp images.

When you purchase, I highly recommend that you go through a quality local camera shop rather than a big box store or on-line. I use ProPhoto here in Portland, and would never consider going on-line. David Cleary is the Nikon guru at ProPhoto, and the person that I prefer to work with there. Not knocking the other employees at all, but David is the guy that asks the questions that bring our your needs in a camera.

OK, I am off the lectern now....
 
Agree on camera selection. I have 2 D300 and 1 D700. Not a pro, but a very serious amateur for many years. My "old" Nikon glass works great on the D700, and because I often make large prints, the D700 is the winner. Our daughter, who is a pro, uses Canon -- expensive but good. I can't justify 8,000+ she spent for a camera and lens, and I cringe at the money I've spent on Nikon stuff. But if you own a C-Dory, what's money?? :wink: :wink:

That young feller who lives WAY down in tropical TX is my idol. Beautiful stuff.

Dusty
 
The smaller pocket size cameras are getting great....and are simply way way easy to haul about.... but, I still keep my old canon for the frames per second and I LOVE...LOVE that image stabilization feature on my long lense. Yes, when I can and want to "drag the bag" and just have fun shooting shots..... I like the camera and the big lense.... The IS does not replace a good tri-pod, but, it for sure truly helps on those wow look at that type of shots.

My wife took it to the back deck of a cruise ship one time when we were being followed by an ? albatross ? .... big ol wide wing spread bird... and she really got into the basically continues frames per second. I paid no attention at all to it, grabbed the camera to go to dinner knowing I had just dumped the 2 GB scan disk (which was a big boy the day I bought it) to the laptop just prior to her taking..."a few shots of the neat bird.." At dinner, I got 2 frames. So, if anyone needs about 1,000+ photos of this bird following a cruise ship (some are really good... :mrgreen: ).... just let me know.

Maybe we should set up a C-Brat art gallery some where.... There are several C-Brats who's work/fun produces some great shots, :photo and our boats often put us in places where many folks never travel.

Thanks for starting this topic and sharing..

Byrdman
 
Sawdust":2rmj1vgp said:
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That young feller who lives WAY down in tropical TX is my idol. Beautiful stuff.

Dusty

Whoa! "Young", "Idol", and "Beautiful"... those are some descriptive terms that only my Mother uses in reference to me. 8) Wildlife and scenic photography were never my forte'. I made my living doing people and product images. When I look at Steve's work here, it makes me want to get my Nikon DSLR out of the case and play, but convenience generally wins out and I take my little pocket camera. :wink: I've said this before, but the camera doesn't make the photographer. The camera is a tool, and I am a big believer in the right tool for the job. Steve's images come from his eye, his brain, and his heart... and he is using the right tools to capture those images.

When I have free time, I really enjoy perusing though the photos here on this forum - quite a few enthusiasts, and subjects we can all relate to.

Thanks for the kind words, Dusty.

Best wishes,
Jim
 
Sawdust":2oeb6i5e said:
Agree on camera selection. I have 2 D300 and 1 D700. Not a pro, but a very serious amateur for many years. My "old" Nikon glass works great on the D700, and because I often make large prints, the D700 is the winner. Our daughter, who is a pro, uses Canon -- expensive but good. I can't justify 8,000+ she spent for a camera and lens, and I cringe at the money I've spent on Nikon stuff. But if you own a C-Dory, what's money?? :wink: :wink:

That young feller who lives WAY down in tropical TX is my idol. Beautiful stuff.

Dusty

Dusty, I figured that you would have a D3x by now... :lol: And if you don't like it, send it to me. 8) :wink

Who is the person in Tropical Texas? Is that Jim? If not, send me a link so that I can go out and drool over the images.

You're right about the $$. The next lens I would like to get just tipped over into five figures cost wise. EEEEK!

Byrdman... shall we ask Mike and Bill for another forum? I enjoyed the "Fun with Photoshop" thread that was going for a while. Or, should we start a group on Flickr for CDory/CBrat photo art? It's free, and wouldn't drive the Brats out of disk space.

On Edit: regarding tripods. when I am on the tripod, I often turn VR off, as it can introduce a bit of a kick. I am using a Gitzo carbon fiber tripod with a Wimberly gimbal head. One inexepensive (perhaps the only inexpensive) tool is a good bean bag. For big lenses, they provide a lot of support, and amazing stability. My personal favorite is a Vertex, made by John Stanford in Texas...
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Staford has a nice sand bag....but, the last shot I took off of a sand bag...well.... no need in developing a picture. :cry:

Here are a couple with me getting in some fenders on last week trip thru the Okeechobee at day break on a foggy morning. Just shooting on the go if you will while gettng the fenders in prior to anyone seeing us with fenders out. Some folks are real picky about that... :mrgreen:

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Patrick, those are some nice captures!!! In particular, I like the last one... Are you using any kind of a split gradient ND filter?

Here's another from Ridgefield yesterday... Shot with the D300, Nikkor 600mm f4, ISO 400 at f16.

Just love those Redtails!!!
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