Rosborough, C-Dory, Rosborough, C-Dory....oh the tough calls
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Great move to get the hard top. We ordered ours without initially but fitted it shortly afterwards. And Yes, you can have a party up there 
One point to watch is that it is slightly narrower than the main cabin roof so when you get the canvas work done make sure they take care at the corners where the two meet or you will have two, unintentional shower heads when it rains.
Nice to see you also have the full floatation hull extension. Just be careful if you store anything inside there and just happen to forget about it. Takes a long time to get rid of the smell. (Don't ask).
The RF owners have a website rather like this one which is helpful.
M
One point to watch is that it is slightly narrower than the main cabin roof so when you get the canvas work done make sure they take care at the corners where the two meet or you will have two, unintentional shower heads when it rains.
Nice to see you also have the full floatation hull extension. Just be careful if you store anything inside there and just happen to forget about it. Takes a long time to get rid of the smell. (Don't ask).
The RF owners have a website rather like this one which is helpful.
M
Congratulations on a very nice, well equipped and clean boat. The only criticism of the majority of these, is the spoked wheel. I have never owned a boat with one (My big ketch had two spoked wheels of 36" diameter each, but they had teak rims, so handled like a destroyer wheel. I have seen several injuries due to folks falling or being impaled on one of the "spokes"..
It looks like a boat which will serve you very well!
It looks like a boat which will serve you very well!
Robert H. Wilkinson
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thataway":1mu5t0i9 said:
I love the look and feel of a spoked wooden wheel but to actually get used to using one??? Don't know if I would like it.
Often wondered where the design originated. Maybe in a bygone era captains used the spokes as a sort of rudder position indicator??
Regards, Rob
Re: the spoked wheel - one of the commercial boats I drive has a spoked wheel. It has light steering at slow speeds, and the spokes help to spin the wheel for maneuvering at the dock (single screw, big rudder, lots of prop walk). At higher speeds, the steering is heavy, and the spokes allow you to "lean into the wheel" as you turn. The spokes make that boat easier to handle.
Plus, it looks "shippy." I like that look on that Rossborough.
Congrats on finding the right boat for your use.
Jim
Plus, it looks "shippy." I like that look on that Rossborough.
Congrats on finding the right boat for your use.
Jim
Spoked wheel in 18th and 19th century sailing vessels had an advantage: On some occasions there were even two--one foreward and one aft of the drum which the tiller ropes were wrapped.
There vessels required a lot of power to wrestle the wheel, and two men could easily grasp spokes on the wheel in each side, x 2 if there was a second wheel, thus 4 men to help to steer.
The "brodie", "necking", or "suicide" knob makes much faster spinning the wheel than spokes.
I will grant that the wheel is more "salty" looking.
There vessels required a lot of power to wrestle the wheel, and two men could easily grasp spokes on the wheel in each side, x 2 if there was a second wheel, thus 4 men to help to steer.
The "brodie", "necking", or "suicide" knob makes much faster spinning the wheel than spokes.
I will grant that the wheel is more "salty" looking.
In my previous boat I had a spiked wheel, coming and going with a single screw made it easier to spin the wheel. On that set up I would definatley prefer the spoke. Another advantage in the RF set up is that the spike wheel sits more flush with the helm, makes entering through the small companionway door just a bit easier.
Thanks to Les we had a bit of "bling" in the form of a "Spokey" wheel but with an outer ring. Best of both worlds.
Also gradually learned that with two big counter rotating twins out back the wheel was rarely needed for docking except for some special movements.
I like to concept on this particular boat of having the kicker controlled by the second lever but I can imagine that for me it would be hard to re-learn this and not assume I had twins which could be a tad embarrassing
Also gradually learned that with two big counter rotating twins out back the wheel was rarely needed for docking except for some special movements.
I like to concept on this particular boat of having the kicker controlled by the second lever but I can imagine that for me it would be hard to re-learn this and not assume I had twins which could be a tad embarrassing
Signed tonight all the title paperwork. I am sending it back to the factory for the addition of a hard top over the cockpit and some other loose ends. Then trucking it across the country. I might make the Port Ladysmith but the planets and stars would have to line up for that to happen.
1. We would buy again. Fits our needs and is trailer-able.
2. Use the shower all the time; 20 minutes on the Honda 2000 and we have hot water. I made a 6' power cord and a stand out of Starboard. Genset sits in the splash-well when running, on the stand. Made a simple roll down, Sunbrella curtain to cover the door. NO WATER IN THE CABIN. Use a plastic bag over the head so it doesn't fill with water. A little tight (5'10/190) but doable. I cannot sleep "dirty".
My only "complaints":
-bilge is eternally wet and, as a result, so it the fuel tank. Time will tell it that becomes a huge issue
-boat is very ass (stern) heavy under way
-hull pounds in seas, but it's inherent in the flat bottom design
-not enough fresh water; I plan to put a tank up front
-we have limited out the 9 gallon head holding tank over 3 days in Desolation
-I bang my head on the door and I'm only 5'10
-foam used is cheap and too giving/not dense enough; I rebuilt the helm seat as a result. Seats need pillows to be comfy to support your lumbar
-the more I use the Wallas, the more I hate it. Takes >30 minutes to boil water/coffee. That's ridiculous and I am looking at alternatives
2. Use the shower all the time; 20 minutes on the Honda 2000 and we have hot water. I made a 6' power cord and a stand out of Starboard. Genset sits in the splash-well when running, on the stand. Made a simple roll down, Sunbrella curtain to cover the door. NO WATER IN THE CABIN. Use a plastic bag over the head so it doesn't fill with water. A little tight (5'10/190) but doable. I cannot sleep "dirty".
My only "complaints":
-bilge is eternally wet and, as a result, so it the fuel tank. Time will tell it that becomes a huge issue
-boat is very ass (stern) heavy under way
-hull pounds in seas, but it's inherent in the flat bottom design
-not enough fresh water; I plan to put a tank up front
-we have limited out the 9 gallon head holding tank over 3 days in Desolation
-I bang my head on the door and I'm only 5'10
-foam used is cheap and too giving/not dense enough; I rebuilt the helm seat as a result. Seats need pillows to be comfy to support your lumbar
-the more I use the Wallas, the more I hate it. Takes >30 minutes to boil water/coffee. That's ridiculous and I am looking at alternatives
30 minutes to boil. It would almost be lunch time....It usually only took me about ten to boil water. The biggest issue with the Wallas is people baby them and don't turn them up enough to blow out any build up. I always started mine on high and shut down on high.
With the new boat I am going to install forced air. Had that in the Tolly and loved it! No cold spots and had heat in all the right places.
With the new boat I am going to install forced air. Had that in the Tolly and loved it! No cold spots and had heat in all the right places.
san juanderer
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I just put a Webasto EVO 40 in mine. Less than $1400.
How did that 225 hp run ?
Are you liking the decision regarding the boat ?
alan
How did that 225 hp run ?
Are you liking the decision regarding the boat ?
alan
Just wanted to let everyone know my first thoughts on the new Rossi. First, she plows through the water like a heavy boat. I wasn't able to run her long but I did enjoy a little cruise. Not much chop, wind or waves but I did enjoy the trip. I'll have to way in after hitting some 4+
After a few days of heavy cleaning she is all ready for us on our return trip to Oregon. I can't wait to really put her through her paces and enjoy sometime aboard. I do like the use of the space for our family. I have several project planned here in the next few months that should make it "homey" for us. Carpet in the salon, memory foam in the sleeping areas, etc. I do feel however we are starting from a solid platform and will be reporting on our coming projects as they progress.
After a few days of heavy cleaning she is all ready for us on our return trip to Oregon. I can't wait to really put her through her paces and enjoy sometime aboard. I do like the use of the space for our family. I have several project planned here in the next few months that should make it "homey" for us. Carpet in the salon, memory foam in the sleeping areas, etc. I do feel however we are starting from a solid platform and will be reporting on our coming projects as they progress.
I love the lines of the Rossi -
Things I am liking or looking forward to using
Stand up V-birth, it is visually deciving from the outside - the v-birth is got a great lay out with stand up head room to storage, hanging locker, v-birth filler that doesn't take away from being able to stand up. Great ventilation and natural lighting.
The layout on the salon is even better than anticipated. Although the dinette is somewhat of a tight squeeze it will work wonderfully. When we are out day tripping this will work for eating, playing cards, assembiling legos, etc. When out for spending nights aboard my son will really like having his own special place. I see it being a real cozy spot for him.
Dedicated seating for co-pilot with enough room for my wife and son to be enjoy a facing forward position while underway. My son already has enjoyed piloting the vessel (at slow speeds) with me sitting next to him. A real plus for the family.
The flow from salon with a wide door to the cockpit. Most of the time while underway and docked we enjoy spending as much time outside as possible. Great balance between cockpit and salon space. I am going to have our storage boxes in the cockpit fitted with two foam cushions and will be picking up a minimum of three seats for the family. This will give us sitting for five easily in the cockpit.
Being able to cruise well into the twenties! Prior boat was great for the Islands but wouldn't have suited us on the Columbia very well. It will also make for a great island hopper when we return the San Juans for visits.
Things I don't care about or going to improve,
Having the head next to where you sleep, all boats are a compromise. I'll just have to make sure to stay up on using the right chemicals and replacing lines when needed.
Not the right kind of window coverings - they are too dark and don't help to soften the cabin. I am going to be replacing with cellular shades, curtains, or similar.
Need to get some carpet in the salon and cockpit - we are cruisers and enjoy a warm inviting boat. However there will be no snaps, if I can ever learn to properly fish out comes the carpet for the tuna.
Enclose the cockpit for fall/winter cruising
Update the interior upholstery
Replace the existing GPS or augment it with something a bit easier to use.
Things I am liking or looking forward to using
Stand up V-birth, it is visually deciving from the outside - the v-birth is got a great lay out with stand up head room to storage, hanging locker, v-birth filler that doesn't take away from being able to stand up. Great ventilation and natural lighting.
The layout on the salon is even better than anticipated. Although the dinette is somewhat of a tight squeeze it will work wonderfully. When we are out day tripping this will work for eating, playing cards, assembiling legos, etc. When out for spending nights aboard my son will really like having his own special place. I see it being a real cozy spot for him.
Dedicated seating for co-pilot with enough room for my wife and son to be enjoy a facing forward position while underway. My son already has enjoyed piloting the vessel (at slow speeds) with me sitting next to him. A real plus for the family.
The flow from salon with a wide door to the cockpit. Most of the time while underway and docked we enjoy spending as much time outside as possible. Great balance between cockpit and salon space. I am going to have our storage boxes in the cockpit fitted with two foam cushions and will be picking up a minimum of three seats for the family. This will give us sitting for five easily in the cockpit.
Being able to cruise well into the twenties! Prior boat was great for the Islands but wouldn't have suited us on the Columbia very well. It will also make for a great island hopper when we return the San Juans for visits.
Things I don't care about or going to improve,
Having the head next to where you sleep, all boats are a compromise. I'll just have to make sure to stay up on using the right chemicals and replacing lines when needed.
Not the right kind of window coverings - they are too dark and don't help to soften the cabin. I am going to be replacing with cellular shades, curtains, or similar.
Need to get some carpet in the salon and cockpit - we are cruisers and enjoy a warm inviting boat. However there will be no snaps, if I can ever learn to properly fish out comes the carpet for the tuna.
Enclose the cockpit for fall/winter cruising
Update the interior upholstery
Replace the existing GPS or augment it with something a bit easier to use.