The camper canvas moves the center of lateral "effort" like a sail, aft. The center of lateral resistance remains about the same--it is way aft, because there is only a residual keel, and the main lateral (underwater resistance) is the outboards lower units. The camper canvas will allow the boat to lie more beam to wind. The way the camper canvas is attatached does make a difference. I prefer the "studs" over the botton snaps. The studs are less likely to be disrupted by a wave hitting the boat.
It is reasonably obvious that one has to compare similar sized boats. One cannot say that the 28 foot twin diesel heavy boat is comperable to a CD 22. This is why I used the terms "Sea Worthy", rather than suitable. The heavier sport fisher--even more so a 50 foot Post--would be more "Suitable" for the conditions off Bodega Bay--but the sportfisher is not at all comperable. Compare 22 to 23 foot boats: Grady White, Sea Swirl,Contender, Sea Fox, etc . I have run from Bodega to Tomales Bays in a 12 foot Inflatable in an average afternoon. Was the boat suitable?---not really. But I have a lot of experience in inflatables in sea conditons, so with a kicker, life jackets, sea anchor, radio etc--the inflatable was seaworthy enough for the conditions.
The other issue, that of the driver, is most critical. I always contend, that anyone who buys a C Dory needs to clearly understand the nature of these little boats. They have to be driven differently than the average "V" hull. If they are mis-used, there can be uncomfortable rides, potential damage to the boat (see my CD 25), and even a dangerous situation. I feel that the risk of a person buying these boats from a dealer who does not sell these boats as a primary line, and does not understand how they must be driven is that the buyer will have an unhappy boating experience (as did the owner of the CD 25 I pruchased). Some of the unique characteristics make the boats more seaworthy, but also can make the boats uncomfortable if used improperly.
As to Dogon Dory--take the time to read all of David Gerr's and John Gardner's Dory books during your long winter. You don't have to agree with me, but you need to make your decision based on facts and understanding of hulls. I look at the history and photos of modifications thru the many years (since the late 1700's) of dories, and look at the similarities. (bow lines, sheer, line, bottom profile, rocker, hull slant and curve, chine, etc.) You can also look at the differences--mainly the widening of the bottom and transom, to carry heavier and heavier engines, plus the small "V" foreward.) To me, the similarities win--apparently for Dogon, the differences win. But putting the "dory" name on the C Dory, is far from a marketing ploy, but is a part of the evolution of the dory, semi dory hull form. If you get a chance, spend a few hours rowing a Banks Dory (especially in rough water). If you have been reading my multiple threads carefully, you would know that I am very critical of the C Dory products--having owned a 22 and currently owning a 25 and TC 255. In fact many criticize me for being too critical. --Certainly no bias there! I certainly agree that if he is going into the open Alaskian waters a larger and different type of boat would be in order. On the other hand, so much larger and more "seaworthy" boats are lost each year in AK.
Come on down to Florida, and we will put you up and let you ride along any time you want! The last two weeks we have had a boating guest virtually every night--many had Tom Cat rides.
Absolutely correct that there are multiple types of Deep V hull forums. Even the same brands vary from model to model and sizes.
Regards,
It is reasonably obvious that one has to compare similar sized boats. One cannot say that the 28 foot twin diesel heavy boat is comperable to a CD 22. This is why I used the terms "Sea Worthy", rather than suitable. The heavier sport fisher--even more so a 50 foot Post--would be more "Suitable" for the conditions off Bodega Bay--but the sportfisher is not at all comperable. Compare 22 to 23 foot boats: Grady White, Sea Swirl,Contender, Sea Fox, etc . I have run from Bodega to Tomales Bays in a 12 foot Inflatable in an average afternoon. Was the boat suitable?---not really. But I have a lot of experience in inflatables in sea conditons, so with a kicker, life jackets, sea anchor, radio etc--the inflatable was seaworthy enough for the conditions.
The other issue, that of the driver, is most critical. I always contend, that anyone who buys a C Dory needs to clearly understand the nature of these little boats. They have to be driven differently than the average "V" hull. If they are mis-used, there can be uncomfortable rides, potential damage to the boat (see my CD 25), and even a dangerous situation. I feel that the risk of a person buying these boats from a dealer who does not sell these boats as a primary line, and does not understand how they must be driven is that the buyer will have an unhappy boating experience (as did the owner of the CD 25 I pruchased). Some of the unique characteristics make the boats more seaworthy, but also can make the boats uncomfortable if used improperly.
As to Dogon Dory--take the time to read all of David Gerr's and John Gardner's Dory books during your long winter. You don't have to agree with me, but you need to make your decision based on facts and understanding of hulls. I look at the history and photos of modifications thru the many years (since the late 1700's) of dories, and look at the similarities. (bow lines, sheer, line, bottom profile, rocker, hull slant and curve, chine, etc.) You can also look at the differences--mainly the widening of the bottom and transom, to carry heavier and heavier engines, plus the small "V" foreward.) To me, the similarities win--apparently for Dogon, the differences win. But putting the "dory" name on the C Dory, is far from a marketing ploy, but is a part of the evolution of the dory, semi dory hull form. If you get a chance, spend a few hours rowing a Banks Dory (especially in rough water). If you have been reading my multiple threads carefully, you would know that I am very critical of the C Dory products--having owned a 22 and currently owning a 25 and TC 255. In fact many criticize me for being too critical. --Certainly no bias there! I certainly agree that if he is going into the open Alaskian waters a larger and different type of boat would be in order. On the other hand, so much larger and more "seaworthy" boats are lost each year in AK.
Come on down to Florida, and we will put you up and let you ride along any time you want! The last two weeks we have had a boating guest virtually every night--many had Tom Cat rides.
Absolutely correct that there are multiple types of Deep V hull forums. Even the same brands vary from model to model and sizes.
Regards,
