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marvin4239

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After getting my 16 set up just as as I pretty much wanted I hauled it to Wefings this morning and traded it on a new 22' Hightop. Boat had all the options I was interested in Shorepower, swimstep, cooler rack, camper back, 90 Suzuki, trim tabs, green. I'm having them install a windlass and house battery with switch plus my GPS and VHF. It's scheduled to be ready the 21st. Dealing with Marc and his salesman Charlie was very easy. My first project will be roof air and coming up with a name. The boat house looks mighty bare without the 16 hanging in the straps.
 
Oh boy, new boat, new stuff, new overnight destinations, cruisin' in the rain, lockin' the gear up in the cabin, doing some bigger water, - Congrats and have fun.

Regards,
 
Congrats on the 22, Marvin. You sure live near some beautiful water for some nice overnighting trips -- now with the added comfort of the larger boat.
 
Marvin – your top shelf and locking storage under the starboard seat were both very well done. Who ever ends up with your old boat will have a nice boat.

I will bet you get a lot of enjoyment out of customizing your boat, so now you have more boat to work on.

Have fun and post photos of your work.
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Congratulations on the new boat.

If the current C D 22's have as thin a laminate in the center of the cabin roof as the CD 25's did (only cored on the outer part of the roof)--I suggest that beams be built to spread out the "load" of the top--this also will give a flat surface on top (build up with glass and epoxy, and under neath. Don't just bolt the AC to the roof, that risks a flat spot on the roof.
 
Bob while I was at Wefings they were installing a roof air on a 25. I went out and examined the section they cut out of the roof. It was cored and appeared to be about 3/4 inch thick. On the 22 if tapping on the roof is any indication it doesn't sound like it is cored plus the curvature is much more pronouced than in the 25. It would definately in my book require a build up on top to get a flat surface for the gasket of the A/C to rest on. A frame work of some sort in the inside to stiffen the roof would be necessary. At Wefing they are installing the 13,500 Coleman Heat Pumps and say they run on the 2K Honda. I would probably go with the 8,300 Polar Cub unit. I'll be doing this install myself and document what a find.

I was at Wefings yesterday and the guy thats doing the set up on my boat is really doing a nice job. It was apparent he takes great pride in his work. He really did a nice job of straightening out the sloppy factory wiring. One thing I discovered that sort of ticked me off was the factory placement of the 120v electric panel. It's directly behind the helm seat and virtually in assessible. The one 110 v outline is next to it and with this location it's impossible to plug anything in it. Wefing is working on resolving the problem. What really ticked me off was during my initial inspection of the boat this is something I didn't notice. to add insult to injury I've been and electrician all my life and it was the one thing I new anything about.

Boat is scheduled for deliver the 17th.
 
Dave the top shelf in the 16 was copied from the one in your boat thanks. Yes a lot of the fun is in the little custom features you can do. My new boat has the cooler under the helm seat. I had them take it out and I'm designing a door to close the opening. I want to add something similiar to what Bob has with the 12 freezer/fridge on the sliding shelf. My plan is to spend a day or two camping as the boat is now to determine what some of my custom needs really are before I start drilling holes. That and looking at the C-Brat album pics is a really a great tool for mods.
 
Picked my new boat up yesterday from Wefings. Again dealing with Charlie and Marc was a pleasant experience. I had a little problem with the factory installed shore power. While I was in the boat installing a neutral wire from the main breaker to the panel the factory forgot it began to rain. Water started pouring in from the starboard front mounting bolt for the roof top hand rail. I got up on the roof and discovered that when the factory installed the handrail they must have misdrilled the mounting hole and there was at least a 1/8 inch gap around it on one side. I'll be pulling the rail off epoxying the hole and redrilling. If it weren't for the information on this site I'd have been pretty angry about that but I sort of expected to find something. Seems like the factory is making strides to improve things like this but I found several things that for lack of a better word were done just plain sloppy. I'm compling a list and will inform CD of the problems I find. I figure if they don't know they can't address issues. Despite this I love the boat and I'm pretty excited about personalizing it. There are so many great modifications posted my heads spinning with ideas. Thanks to everyone for sharing their wisdom and creativity.
 
marvin4239 wrote:

One thing I discovered that sort of ticked me off was the factory placement of the 120v electric panel. It's directly behind the helm seat and virtually in assessible. The one 110 v outline is next to it and with this location it's impossible to plug anything in it.

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I have a new CD 22 cruiser also and I have the same wiring setup. I figured they had a new guy at the factory and he just did something stupid on my boat. It's interesting to see yours is the same way. It's the only really glaring wrong thing I've found on the boat so far. I can't believe they're doing this as the regular production setup. I plugged a power strip in with a close right angle connector on the end, so it works, but it seems amazingly, glaringly, obviously retarded the way they're doing it. I expect I'll be relocating it later, but I have bigger fish to fry at the moment.

We should take pictures and send them to the factory and ask for comment. Maybe there's something we don't understand that makes this a "good idea". It would be interesting to hear what they were thinking. The breakers can be used easily enough by tilting the seatback forward, but the 110V outlet location seems just plain STUPID.

Maybe I'm wrong.....?

Jeff
 
I installed a 120V outlet behind the helm seat, but way to stbd, so it is
accessible without moving the helm seat. Perhaps the helm seat is
mounted more to stbd now than it used to be?


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I installed the panel port side, over top of the water tank. Needs a sliding
cover, in my opinion, which I installed. BTW, that outlet is downstream
from a GFCI.

Mike
 
Mike: Looks like you moved your kicker forward a bit too?? :mrgreen: Should be easy to start in that location.

Marvin: Do make your list and send it to the factory. Also be sure and leave a copy for Charlie and Marc there at Wefings. It also gives them a check list of items to look for on a brand new boat from the factory that this ...well worded.... "sloppy" work that should never be coming out of the factory on a $100,000 boat.

We all work together to constantly improve our boats. Many folks working together does really help. You will for sure enjoy many good times on your boat and hope to meet/see you at the Gulf Coast Gathering in October.

Byrdman
 
The receptical is directly behing the seat no way to plug anything in Wefing offered to move it but I really couldn't see having a hole and decided I'd rather give it some thought and come up with a solution myself. The electrical panel is all but unaccsibleable also and actually dangerous if you had to turn a breaker off in a hurry. I don't know about boats but in the National Electrical Code this is illegal. I took the seat out last night which turned to be and ordeal because who ever installed it stripped one of the bolts and I had to cut the bolt with a grinder to get it out. I considered buying a adjustable sliding seat mount but don't want to raise the seat any as it's pretty high already. My plan is to put two hinges on the front of the seat so the seat will hinge forward. With the seat hinged forward I can put in a removable shelf for a galley work surface plus I'll be able to get to the panel and the receptacle.

As far as the Gulf Coast gathering my youngest daughter is getting married that day and unless I can hire a double to give her away I won't be able to make the gathering.

Actually some of the issues would warrant returning the boat to Wefing but it's a 500 mile round trip trip plus I actually enjoy messing with it.

I'll snap a couple photos of the before and after and put them in my album.
 
I just posted some pictures of my solution to my receptical problem. I took the seat off added some SS hinges and now the seat raises up against the steering wheel giving plenty of access to the receptical and power panel. Took about 1/2 hour once I got the seat off. I figure I'll only use that receptical when I'm at anchor and not using the helm seat. It creates a large flat surface on top of the seat box which I plan to make a table out of starboard that I can put a microwave, coffee pot or what ever on. Table will store as a sink cover when not in use. In retrospect I'm sort of glad the receptical wasn't usable it motivated me to come up with something I think I'll be real happy with. Simply moving the seat forward wasn't and option because it almost to close to the wheel for me already
 
I finally got my new boat wet friday. I launched around noon and went south on the Saint Johns trying to escape the Red Tide. The weather was great friday river was like a mirror until about 3 PM when a north easter started to blow. I was breaking in the new motor so traveled pretty slow for the first several hours. Boat preformed flawlessly. I visited a couple creeks off the Saint Johns. Trout Creek which incidentially has a pretty nice campground with boat launch, fuel, small grocery store and a beautiful setting.

Right next to it is Six Mile Creek very picturesque with the only thing on it is a restaurant called the Crab Shack. It has a nice floating dock and inside and outside eating. At the mouth of these two creeks is a nice protected anchorage where I spent the night.

The next morning I crossed the river to Black Creek which is really a beautiful area representive of what North East Florida use to be like. It's a very deep creek right next to the bank it's 20' in most places. There are very few houses along the creek as the banks are mostly swamp land and undevelopable. There are a few spots you can go ashore but the alligators and water mocassins are pretty abundant. There are all sorts of fish in this creek black bass, striped bass, bream, crappie and some huge alligator gar that come out at sunset and feed. I spent the night about 10 miles down this creek in a beautiful anchorage.

Left the next morning and crossed back across the Saint Johns which had built to a 2 to 3 foot chop and 20 to 25 mile per hour winds. I got to tell ya it was pretty compfy in the cabin. I passed a lot of boats coming home from a football game in downtown Jax. Mostly open cigarrette boats and off shore center consoles. They didn't look to comfortable.

I spent the last night in Goodbys Lake just outside of Jax. Theres a Marina there and a Hooters Restaurant right next store with free docks so me and my first mate Smokey just backed in and read a good book and drank hot choclate while it poured rain outside.

Next morning I fought a strong headwind and heavy waves back to the boat ramp.

The boat did great I covered 204 miles in 20 hours and 43 minutes of run time. Now I can get that pesky manditory 20 hour service done and plan a longer trip. Weather was actually perfect in that I had pretty much all types of conditions to try the boat in. Man do I love that windlass Wefing set it up perfect. In the past there were places I wanted to stop but wouldn't because the anchor was such a chore for me now I just push a button! I don't really have and accorate account but it appears I got around 4 MPG and that was in some pretty rough conditions.

I just posted some pictures of my trip in my Sub Albums been trying to rename them without much success.
 
Marvin,

Congratulations on your maiden voyage. Sounds like you got a lot of good experience on different types of water conditions. It looks like you have a Suzuki. Is that a 90 hp or 115 hp? We have the DF90 and love it.

As for naming your sub-albums, just click on the main album, you'll see all of your sub-albums with a little drop-down menu below each sub-album which says, "album actions". Click on the drop-down arrow and choose "Edit Title". That's where you name the sub-album.

Happy cruising!
 
Jazzmaniac thanks for the tip on the sub album didn't see it before. My motor is a 90 and for the brief time I have run it it sure seems sweet. You've gotta love that fuel injection. I opened it up once in fairly good water and it made 29mph (GPS). I'm still getting use to the trim tabs never had them before so I expect it should make about 30 mph although most of my cruising is around 3500 to 4000 rpms. I'm running the stock aluminum prop but will upgrade to SS when I'm sure about pitch an diameter and keep the alum for a spare. In this shallow water I'm pretty hard on props.
 
There are a few spots you can go ashore but the alligators and water mocassins are pretty abundant.
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Uhh, thanks, but no thanks!

The rest of the trip sounded great. Congrats on a successful sea trial and an exciting new boat!

iggy
 
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