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cattlejack

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Hello everybody
I've been looking at 26-32' trawlers, mainly Nordic tugs.
But, I just came across a real nice 2009 C-Dory 25, for a good price
So, my question to you guys is, what will I gain or lose in the different style boats?
Wife thinks the dory will be tippy.
Thanks
 
If the 2009 25 is the one on Craig's list with 274 hrs on a Yamaha 150 and a Yamaha, for $29,995? That is a scam. Don't send any deposit etc to hat address. It has been there for several months.

That boat is for sale with a price in the $58,000 to $68,000 neighborhood.
 
Best thing would be to get on one and go for a ride to see. The 25 isn't as bad as the 22, but you can really feel it in the 22 when you walk from one side to the other. The larger Nordic Tugs on the other hand, are pretty stable when walking across them. Not sure how they ride in rough water however. But probably more stable being larger.
 
Compare the weight and beam of a 26' - 32' Nordic Tug to a 25' C-Dory and there
should be no doubt which Mfg's boat is more "tippy" or less "tippy".

The C-Dory is noticeably more after having had a 26' CD Venture and chartering a
32' Nordic Tug. In fact, "tippiness" is one of the main reasons we sold the C-Dory,
thanks to many voiced concerns of my dear betrothed, for a considerably heavier
and beamier vessel. This feature (aka rolling) is evident simply by walking around
when not underway or handling most any beam sea or wake.

If your wife notices this from the get-go, the writing is already on the wall.

Aye.
 
cattlejack":3c3vsgqd said:
Hello everybody
I've been looking at 26-32' trawlers, mainly Nordic tugs.
But, I just came across a real nice 2009 C-Dory 25, for a good price
So, my question to you guys is, what will I gain or lose in the different style boats?
Wife thinks the dory will be tippy.
Thanks
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Whatever type of boat YOUR WIFE wants will be far cheaper in the long run. If she is wrong it will still be your fault any way.
Good luck on that one? :wink: :thup
 
I agree. When the wife has reservations about a boat (any boat) you had better listen. Your whole boating future is at stake here.
My wife said "enough is enough, I'm not going on the C-Dory again". Change the boat for more comfort or I'm done.
I have always thought, the C-Dory 22 is a great boat for single handed boating. Just ask Harvey. I have never owned a 25, but it makes sense, the bigger you go "Happy wife, happy life" syndrome kicks in.
I like Nordic Tugs but settled on a Camano Troll for half the cost. Now we cruise in comfort. Fuel economy is great too.

Martin.
 
This just reinforces my decision to find myself a low maintenance wife. I am very lucky. She is usually the one that says, "Why do you need something, bigger, better, newer or more expensive." We love our 22 and when I mention that someday I might like to upgrade to something bigger like a 25 or Tomcat, the usual response is "Why". :lol: :lol:
 
This just reinforces my decision to find myself a low maintenance wife. I am very lucky. She is usually the one that says, "Why do you need something, bigger, better, newer or more expensive." We love our 22 and when I mention that someday I might like to upgrade to something bigger like a 25 or Tomcat, the usual response is "Why". Laughing Laughing
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Peter, I'm right there with you. All the way up till last month when my wife was invited on Tom and Joyce's C-Otter, then spent some time looking on a few other 25s. At that point, she didn't ask why anymore, and even said it might be ok getting into the next size bigger boat; and as I've gotten a bit older and continue to trailer and use the boat, A LOT, I've even stopped asking myself why when I try to talk myself out of it. IN the mean time, I finally got Midnight Flyer fixed up just like I like it. Maybe if I had more to do, I wouldn't be ready to change yet. Isn't that how it usually works out... :roll: Colby
 
Colby,

The response I get from Judy is that the more work we put into the boat gives us less reason to upgrade it. Right now for perhaps the next decade or so we like the 22 because it is so easy to tow and a great explorers boat. It can get us into lots of little places that a bigger boat could not. I can see once we get older and perhaps then living near water, such as on Vancouver Island, we may not want to travel as much and can spend more time just cruising in home waters with a little more room and comfort. Then a bigger boat might be in order. Over the next few years I have Alaska, Haida Gwaii, Great Slave Lake and Baja in my sights, so that is a lot of miles. So for now the 22 is the perfect boat for us.
 
I’ve learned some things about what a women says and what she means.
I do not mean to be derogatory. I love women. I am now happily married
to my third wonderful wife who also uses these words I have learned.

THINGS WOMEN SAY

1. “FINE” This word women use to end an argument when they are right
and you need to shut up.

2. “5 MINUTES” If she’s getting dressed, this means half an hour. It really
means ONLY 5 minutes if you are watching the game and have been asked
to help around the house.

3. “NOTHING” This is the calm before the storm. This really means “something”
and you should be on your toes. Arguments that begin with “nothing” usually end
in “fine”.

4. “GO AHEAD” This is a dare, not permission. DON’T DO IT!

5. “A LOUD SIGH’’ This is actually a word - a non-verbal statement often misunderstood.
It means she thinks you are an idiot and wonders why she is wasting her time standing
there arguing with you about nothing. Refer back to 3. about nothing.

6. “THAT’S OK” This is one of the most dangerous statements a woman can make
to a man. It means she wants to think long and hard before deciding how and when
you will pay for your mistake.

7. “THANKS” She is thanking you; do not question it or faint. Just say “You’re welcome”.

8. “DON’T WORRY ABOUT IT. I GOT IT” Another dangerous statement meaning this
is something that she has told you to do several times but is now doing it herself.
This will later result in you asking “What’s wrong?” For her response refer to 3.

9. “WHATEVER” is her way of saying “%$#* YOU”!

Aye.
 
The response I get from Judy is that the more work we put into the boat gives us less reason to upgrade it. Right now for perhaps the next decade or so we like the 22 because it is so easy to tow and a great explorers boat. It can get us into lots of little places that a bigger boat could not. I can see once we get older and perhaps then living near water, such as on Vancouver Island, we may not want to travel as much and can spend more time just cruising in home waters with a little more room and comfort. Then a bigger boat might be in order. Over the next few years I have Alaska, Haida Gwaii, Great Slave Lake and Baja in my sights, so that is a lot of miles. So for now the 22 is the perfect boat for us.
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Absolutely no argument there Peter! Those are the very same reasons I have loved my little 22 from the beginning! And it may be those reasons that kick back in if I can't find a 25 I like that I can catch in time. lol
 
Foggy":3pdq11dw said:
I’ve learned some things about what a women says and what she means.
I do not mean to be derogatory. I love women. I am now happily married
to my third wonderful wife who also uses these words I have learned.

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So you're saying it took you three tries to figure all that out? :wink:
 
ssobol":3ofrcw1r said:
Foggy":3ofrcw1r said:
I’ve learned some things about what a women says and what she means.
I do not mean to be derogatory. I love women. I am now happily married
to my third wonderful wife who also uses these words I have learned.

....
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So you're saying it took you three tries to figure all that out? :wink:
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I try not to make snap decisions...

Aye.
 
cattlejack":2q2s1fky said:
Hello everybody
I've been looking at 26-32' trawlers, mainly Nordic tugs.
But, I just came across a real nice 2009 C-Dory 25, for a good price
So, my question to you guys is, what will I gain or lose in the different style boats?
Wife thinks the dory will be tippy.
Thanks
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First off, Gain or Lose are both relevant. Maybe you need to look at what is important to each of you? Then sort that list out. Tippy Hummm. Take a look:
both boat styles are tippy but it is realative.
Tippy. Nordic = heavy boat less tippy than a CD-25 BUT if your wife walk across (thwartships) on the Nordic it will respond to her weight as she moves port to Starboard. Maybe not quite as much as on the CD-25, But, on the CD, will that half or one inch make a difference. When you are running, you activate the trim tabs and level if up IF it needs it.
Fuel mileage = Nordic maybe less than 2 gal per hour. CD 4-5-6 maybe.
Available speed = Nordic, 6-9 knots. CD 15 - 25 knots. Could make a difference in beating a weather window.
Trailer-ability Nordic, Oversize permits and commercial hauler probably. CD a 3/4 or 1 ton Pickup and you can be doing 60 miles and hour and getting 10+ miles to the gallon.
Storage Nordic, will be on the water or hard at a marina. CD, on the trailer in the back yard or driveway.
Homey, fine finish, Nordic for fine craftsmanship and homey features. CD will be more like a camper trailer, or motel fittings.
Maintenance and modification ability, Nordic is doable but will require much more effort for access to systems. CD will have a much simpler access to systems, (wiring, pumps, engine, electronics etc).

Admittedly I do not have a lot of time on the Nordic tugs, I have some on the CD 25, and near 1500 hours on my 22 Cruiser, mostly single-handing but with company for extended periods at times. It is a great fit for the single-hand cruiser, and a good fit for 2 on board. The 22 is economical and ergonomic and any boat is not going to be a house and every boat is going to be some of a compromise, so, as noted and a variation, it has to work (well) for the person least interested in boating.

Choose well,

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

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