Is having a marine toilet on a 22 a good idea

usana

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We are looking at becomeing c-dory people and are trying to determine what are the best options to have. The issue of a toilet verses a porta unit came up, any comments?
We plan on fishing and boat camping around Van. Island and would any feedback. Call us newbies........
 
A Porta Potti is the only way to go on a 22...no room for a marine head. We deleted the marine head on our 25 and went with an Air Head Composting Toilet - a decision we do not regret, despite the snickers from the ignorati...David on Anna Leigh says if he were doing it over again, he would delete the marine head on his 25 and go with a large Porta Potti unit in the head compartment. I'm sure there are some positive points about marine heads, but I can't think of any...

usana":2oa99t8w said:
We are looking at becomeing c-dory people and are trying to determine what are the best options to have. The issue of a toilet verses a porta unit came up, any comments?
We plan on fishing and boat camping around Van. Island and would any feedback. Call us newbies........
 
I certainly agree, that the porta Potty is the best head for a CD 22. There are a lot of advantages to a PP--including no thru hulls (the marine head requires two), can be moved to give more room and privacy if desired, easily emptied at multiple places, including over board and at home if desired. Less to go wrong, nothing to clog--and you haven't lived until some one puts a paper towel or sanitary napkin into a head, it plugs up and the guilty party has pumped up pressure trying to get it out!
 
Pat Anderson":3me61sue said:
We deleted the marine head on our 25 and went with an Air Head Composting Toilet - a decision we do not regret,
Now there's an item I can identify with! Seriiously, I looked it up and , if I could fit it on the Lizzie, I'd buy it.
 
This bring up a question for me. can you plumb a port a potty to be pumped out with out taking it out of the boat? I have tried to use a pump out at the dock with the port-potty but it did not work very well. I would consider putting a port-potty in a 25 as long as I don't have to carry it out every time i have to empty it. Is there a method to it I don't know about? deleting the holding tank in the 25 makes room for a fish box in the floor right?
 
The Thetfort Porta Potti 735/775/ 875/885 can be fitted for dockside pump out thru a deck plate. I don't think it is easy to change from pump out to pour out, but it can be done, with a little change of the plumbing.
 
Don't know about pumping out a porta potty, never needed to do that. On our 25, the holding tank is under the motor well...I don't need a fish box, but do need to figure out some way to use this space (we still have the plastic tank installed but not connected to anything, it is just wasted space right now).

starcrafttom":18kt96up said:
This bring up a question for me. can you plumb a port a potty to be pumped out with out taking it out of the boat? I have tried to use a pump out at the dock with the port-potty but it did not work very well. I would consider putting a port-potty in a 25 as long as I don't have to carry it out every time i have to empty it. Is there a method to it I don't know about? deleting the holding tank in the 25 makes room for a fish box in the floor right?
 
That's exactly what I did on my 25 BEFORE ordering it -- deleted the marine toilet and holding tank and put a SaniPotti in (has a pump out fitting also, but never used it). I dealt with a marine toilet for 6 yrs on a prior boat, never again if I can avoid it. If you can 'love' a toilet, well...
 
Pat Anderson":1lhsawiu said:
Don't know about pumping out a porta potty, never needed to do that. On our 25, the holding tank is under the motor well...I don't need a fish box, but do need to figure out some way to use this space (we still have the plastic tank installed but not connected to anything, it is just wasted space right now).


Well - since it's clean and unused and since you're in the beer business, that tank could make an excellent beer storage location. If it won't hold sufficient pressure to keep the CO2 in, then I suggest you use it for margarita's - that will make you EVEN MORE POPULAR at C-Brat gatherings. (I'll bring the limes) :cocktail
 
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Joe.
 
Funny dumb story that fits in here. I had been fishing with susans day on folsom lake for land lock salmon and trout. Susans dad was new to downriggers and I was teaching him. After about 6 hours of nothing Ed asked "well what other tricks do you have." I said " well they only bite when I am smoking, eating or pissing." so I lite one up took a bite of a sandwish and leaned over the rail to unzip. About half way thru the third act My rod got slammed and Ed would not get it for me. Dam near lost the fish!! Nice three pound land lock.
 
Hi usana,

Welcome aboard; I see that is your first post. People who have never used a porta-potty are often grossed out by the idea of it. Consider being in a boat for more than a couple hours without facilities? :disgust The PP is easy to use - slide the lever open, do your business, slide the lever closed. Put a bit of proper chemical in there, and there is no problem with odor. We have had PPs on our previous boats, problem-free. The head on our 25 is a Dometic/Sealand which, for all practical purposes, is a big porta-potty that has to be pumped out (or dumped with the macerator pump). The only advantage of this head over a typical PP is the capicity (we can go a week or so, being conservative). The disadvantage is that you can't carry the holding tank to a toilet or dump site. I have never known a marine head that didn't plug up... and then you WILL be grossed out.

The lowly porta-potty has a lot going for it: low tech, easy to use, easy to dump, portability... and if you do have a problem (not likely), toss it and get another one for less than $100.

Spending time on a boat means you will have to deal with the potty situation... just because it is a little different from the toilet in your house causes concern for those new to the situation. Fear not - know you can boldy GO where ... well, you get the idea.

Your real concern should be: how soon will I feel inclined to give up a good paying career and become a boat bum? :wink:

Again, welcome aboard.

Jim B.
 
Our community dock has a pumpout. There is supposed to be a fitting which
will allow the porta-potti to be pumped right through the hose. While
I doubt I would do this in the boat, not carrying the tank a few hundred
yards to where it can be dumped would be nice. We apparently lost the attachment,
but I've been told it can be purchased. I'll probably look into buying one.

With exception of a vacu-flush, I would prefer a porta-potti over most other
systems. Vacu-flush fascinates me. Anyhow, too big and complex for most
C-Dorys.

Mike
 
If you spend quite a bit of time looking at used boats, you'll notice that a lot of smaller -sized cruisers in the 25-35 ft range have had their marine toilets disconnected and removed to be replaced by Porta-Pottis with pump out fittings.

This happens, of course, not only because overboard pumping is only allowed off shore anymore, but also because (I believe) folks have gradually wised up to the reality of Murphy's Law in action in their marine toilets.

In some ways, the Porta-Potti may be the best thing since sliced bread. (Boy is that full of bad imagery!)

Joe.
 
Thanks for the great info and ideas, we will be following this post carefully. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. Sign me looking for a boat...
 
Hi Folks,

This is one of those topics that keeps coming back.

The Porta-potti is the best invention since sliced bread. I have a 15" Tetford, with a way to pump it out on the back of it.

Why I like it.

1. Very few moving parts, which means very few things can break.
2. Portable. You can put it out in the cockpit during the evening so it can be used without disturbing your boating partner.
3. Does not smell, if you use a good toilet chemical.
4. Except for the Providence of Ottawa in Canada, the government likes them.
5. When you are five miles out, you can dump it overboard.
6. You can dump it in any toilet you can find, but check if the chemical you are using will screw up the sewerage. (On the banks of lower Lake Champlain there is a little boating place with signs up all over the place. "DO NOT DUMP PORTI-POTI'S IN THE TOILET. IT WILL SCREW UP THE SEWERAGE SYSTEM.)
7. They are cheap.

There is not one reason I can think of for us in our small "yachts" to use anything else.

Happy Sailing

Fred
 
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