Hauling a tomcat255

Dave,
Some times sagging frames "need a lift!".... :shock: I have only used the weight distribution hitch where I had an issue--and it improved the towing considerably. There was a tire ware problem, which was resolved, The load was more stable, The truck and trailer were perfectly level when under loads, and the braking was as good as without the WD hitch. For a Tom Cat, I would want E/H brakes anyway.

Colby,
There is considerable debate on the trailer accessory sights about WD hitches--One of these was specifically about the 2010 Highlander--and even included an e-mail from Toyota--where the manufacture stated that there was no contraindication to using a WD hitch. I personally would not use one, because the Highlander is on a modified car platform, not a truck platform. But that is personal opinion. I used mine on a Diesel Excursion.

I stand by, what I said about distributing the tongue force--note that I said
and actually stabilizes, it-especially on "Bumpy" interstates.
This is from my observation on towing on I 10 where a resonance can be set up. The pole tongue adaptor bolts around the square or rectangular tubing.

A photo of the Trailer on the Tom Cat
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On this particular trailer the "A" part of the aluminum frame goes all of the way to just behind the coupler.

Another photo to show where the "pole" has its second attachment to the trailer frame.

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Here is the sticker on my Yukon XL. Most trucks have similar stickers.

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Note that the sticker talks about 10,000 lbs, This refers to the factory installed hitch part of the heavy duty towing package--but the truck is only rated to tow 8,100 lbs.

The trailer manufacturer, and the truck manufacturer are all protecting them selves from liability and from potential failures as any good business should. You can boost the rear of a truck with overload strings, air bags and several other methods. Weight distributing hitches are "set up" specifically for the trailer, truck and load. We used a minimal setting, which allow good braking a level trailer and truck, and improved handling. . Like any accessory, it has to be used properly.

We were spending about 6 months of the year in various RV spots, and saw everything, from the Custom Freightliner tractors,, having a towing capacity of 40,000 lbs, down to an old beat up 1/2 ton truck which probably doesn't have over 5,000 lbs rated towing capacity, pulling these giant 44' 5th wheel trailers. I would rather have the $150,000 Freightliner, but some folks cannot afford that. Folks tend to use what is available to them, and often get away with the minimum.

Mark, I believe that you are using at least a HD 3/4 ton truck, set up for towing heavy loads. Not sure, but that seems a bit different than the 150 which the question is about in this thread. The point is often made that you can tow a trailer with anything a short distance--and we occasionally use a lawn tractor, But on the road, you want a substantial vehicle.
 
Hi Bob,
There was a lot of back and forth on the 2010 Highlander. In the end, I believe that official that sent the email, contradicted himself later. In the end, the Highlander is rated to haul 5000 lbs, 500 lb tongue weight with the factory hitch and towing package installed. Yes, there is some sag when you hook up the 400 lb tongue, but you will have sag in many vehicles. If not, your probably going to have a very stiff ride. My concern with that wasn't concern for the vehicle but rather concern for oncoming drivers at night with the headlight beams going higher. Looking at your photos, it appears the trailer you have has a much stronger tongue with that A frame so far forward. On my CD22 EzLoader trailer, the single "pole" tongue goes back quite a ways farther. There is diffinitely some spring to it, which can easily be seen by placing a jack a few feet behind the tongue wheel. Placing a WDH system on it would add a lot more stress on that aluminum single tongue than I would want. I've never used a WDH on a boat. I have had good results using it on a flatbed car hauler and on a travel trailer. Colby
 
We have diesel 3/4 pickup rated to pull 14,000 pounds our truck weighs in at about 8500. Our boat on a tandem axle trailer weighs about 10,000 pounds and with the pickup truck moderately loaded in total rig weighs in about 18,500. No equalizing hitch needed. Electric over hydraulic brakes. No problem.
D.D.
 
Hey Joe
I am not a truck guy and even if I had a truck capable of pulling a TC, I don't know that I have the skill or courage to drag 10,000 lbs down the road at 60 mph. Since, I am currently looking for a TC and I know my driving limitation, I am going to have to look to an alternative transport.

So, since you have a trailer, why not just consider paying a boat hauler or trucker to move your boat the once or twice a year you are planning to move it. Even if the hauler drops it off at the launch marina, "maybe" you can still use your 150 to just get it in and out of the water.

When you run the numbers for fuel, towing upgrades and the cost difference for a big diesel as well as the daily driver tradeoffs some have mentioned, maybe it is not so crazy?

Good Luck... I hope to be joining you on the water her in the PNW sometime in the near future
Mike
 
Hey Joe
I am not a truck guy and even if I had a truck capable of pulling a TC, I don't know that I have the skill or courage to drag 10,000 lbs down the road at 60 mph. Since, I am currently looking for a TC and I know my driving limitation, I am going to have to look to an alternative transport.

So, since you have a trailer, why not just consider paying a boat hauler or trucker to move your boat the once or twice a year you are planning to move it. Even if the hauler drops it off at the launch marina, "maybe" you can still use your 150 to just get it in and out of the water.

When you run the numbers for fuel, towing upgrades and the cost difference for a big diesel as well as the daily driver tradeoffs some have mentioned, maybe it is not so crazy?

Good Luck... I hope to be joining you on the water her in the PNW sometime in the near future
Mike
 
"The certified trailer weight ticket for the boat and aluminum trailer was 9300lbs"
Congratulations, John Clark, I searched the site and could not find any other TC255 owner who could produce a Weight Ticket.
My apologies to you, maybe I missed it, unless you didn't post it (which is OK here, despite a lot of interest).
I am interested in the differences, and other TC255 owners would no doubt be as well. We are all a great big friendly C-Dory Family here, always learning from each other and looking forward to meeting each other at the next Gathering. I agree with you and Bob that a TC255 can safely be towed by anything between a lawn tractor and a $150k Freightliner, depending on the situation and the vehicle's engineer's published ratings. I'm a reasonable guy, and so are you and 99% of posters. However, none of us want a 'newbie' to get in over his/her head and make a bad decision without input from experienced boaters on this site.
PS check out http://www.greyfieldinn.com/on Cumberland Island for a 2 day stay, or at least ask for a dinner if they allow it (call first).
a 'bucket list' experience...They require a jacket for dinner, but will provide it. The "honor bar" charges $9 for a beer, and you can't bring your own....like a cruise line.
Check out Horn Island, a 15x 1 mile wilderness barrier island 10 miles off the Mississippi coast. The only pristine wilderness barrier island between Key West and New Orleans and Maine.
Safe Travels!
John
 
joechiro30":1wdnzwym said:
what brand and type of weight distributing hitch should I get?

We have a EZ loader tandem axle galvanized with surge hydraulic brakes.
It's a 2007 trailer.

Joe,

Sorry for the slow response but I have been out with knee surgery and recovery. I use an Eaz-Lift equalizer with my F-150 but do not have surge brakes.

I also see you have a EZ Loader galvanized trailer. I have a Float-On aluminum trailer and I have no idea what an EZ Loader steel trailer weighs? I'm also a huge fan of electric over hydraulic dual axle disc brakes, so your experience pulling a Tomcat with surge brakes may differ from mine.
 
gulfcoast john":oc81rweu said:
"The certified trailer weight ticket for the boat and aluminum trailer was 9300lbs"
Congratulations, John Clark, I searched the site and could not find any other TC255 owner who could produce a Weight Ticket.
My apologies to you, maybe I missed it, unless you didn't post it (which is OK here, despite a lot of interest).
I am interested in the differences, and other TC255 owners would no doubt be as well. We are all a great big friendly C-Dory Family here, always learning from each other and looking forward to meeting each other at the next Gathering. I agree with you and Bob that a TC255 can safely be towed by anything between a lawn tractor and a $150k Freightliner, depending on the situation and the vehicle's engineer's published ratings. I'm a reasonable guy, and so are you and 99% of posters. However, none of us want a 'newbie' to get in over his/her head and make a bad decision without input from experienced boaters on this site.
PS check out http://www.greyfieldinn.com/on Cumberland Island for a 2 day stay, or at least ask for a dinner if they allow it (call first).
a 'bucket list' experience...They require a jacket for dinner, but will provide it. The "honor bar" charges $9 for a beer, and you can't bring your own....like a cruise line.
Check out Horn Island, a 15x 1 mile wilderness barrier island 10 miles off the Mississippi coast. The only pristine wilderness barrier island between Key West and New Orleans and Maine.
Safe Travels!
John

Thanks for the Cumberland Island info albeit the link doesn't work. I flew over the Island a number of times when I was in flight training at Hunter Army Airfield in Savannah, but I spent most of my time in Savannah or on Saint Simons or Jekyll. I will try to check it our next year when we try for Hontoon SP again. Hopefully my knees will cooperate this time.

The certified scale ticket is in my album C-Lark. It's a little confusing because I was trying to disconnect my truck to isolate the tongue weight but the #3 scale of 9300 lbs is the boat and trailer with half fuel and no water
 
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