Frequent Sea underway

thataway

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Well, we've been spotted on I 5 near Bellingham, so our whereabouts is known. Nice to get a phone call from "DayDream" saying that they had just passed us in their van!

We left home about 11 days ago, and have been going almost non stop. Accomidations have varied from Motel 6 to mansions belonging to our friends, including sleeping on the floor at my daughter's house (I told her to add a 4th bed room!) The most comfortable bed is the C Dory 25, which has been our quarters in RV parks for the last 5 nights. We have spotted two other C Dories going the opposite way, and several RV park patrons or owners have said they saw a C Dory a day or two ago Tonight we are in Bellingham RV park, and Jeff Messinger's Uncle is in an RV near us--he had never seen a C Dory before!

Tomarrow we will pick up a few charts and books, and head for PR. So far the Ford Excursion has been a great tow vehicle. (we towed the C Dory 25 across the country a couple of years ago, but used a 30 foot RV last year). The 7.3 diesel pulls much better than a gas engine, and we have keep our speed up to 50 to 55 even on the high passes (unless we get stuck behind a slower vehicle).

This will probably be our last trip to AK (we spent 3 years cruising AK in our Cal 46 in the 90's)--due to health and age. Frequent Sea will be turned over to her new owners at Lake Powell in a short time. We truely love the C Dory 25 and feel that for a trailerable cruiser it is tops. The 22 has considerably less room (for us) and the Tom Cat 255 is considerably heavier to tow. Of course each boat is a compromise.

We will update as we get internet access.
 
Bob,

If you make it a true Alaska trip you could stop by our house (excellent beds) which is on the beach of Cook Inlet 2 miles south of Ninilchik, Alaska.

Have a safe and great trip.

Today I parted with my 1983 Classic. I almost shed a tear as it rolled out of the yard behind someone elses truck. I ran that boat for 26 summers and a lot of miles, memories and fun.
I know what you will be going through when you part with Frequent Sea.
 
We had to stop at a RV park with internet connections!. This AM we went looking to the Douglas book on AK, a few charts and a MilePost. West Marine in Bellingham had 6 Mid Atlantic Cruising Guides, and one on Tahiti, but not one on AK. However the associate sent us on down to LFS (?)--and of course they had everything we wanted. The MilePost was at Barnes and Noble, and we were underway by 11 Am (After the obligatory stock up at Wally World).

The Canadian Crossing--3 cars and one RV ahead of us. Asked us where the liceense plate for the vehicle was from, and looked at our passports--the usual question about weapons--but none about alcohol, food etc. Fast and easy--looking at the US side, I suspect that we were going to see a different story. Jeff Messmer's uncle's VW van was searched for 45 minutes (including X ray) yesterday when then come into the US).

Fuel seems to be about .99 Canadian/liter for gas, and .86 for diesel. (at least so far).

Stats on the truck towing: 10.9 miles a gallon over 1200 miles averaging about 55 mph. The truck non towing was getting about 19.5 miles a gallon. This is about what we expected--and far better than the RV Which was down to about 6 miles per gallon last summer when towing the C Dory 25.

The best part of the drive today was up the Fraiser River--Highway 1. Beautiful day, with sunshine. Temp was in the 80's. We saw several batches of river rafters, and the rapids were up, with a high river flow. Even wondered how it would be doing it in the C Dory?

We had a wolf run right in front of the truck. Spooked Marie a bit since she was driving. Rest stops were a bit more primative than on our interstates, but adequate. There is also some type of motorcycle rally--and there were hundreds of bikers at Cache Creek. The one obstruction which gave us some pause, were the bicycles. Some folks tried for the shoulder--but one group of three were right in the middle of the road in one of the tunnels....

I even though of Roger Rockwell, when we came upon a lone rider of a 90 CC bike--he had his gear on the back and pulled over onto the shoulder when we came up behind (didn't see any 3 legged dogs though--yet).

Tomarrow should put us at the 2/3 mark for Prince Rupert and hopefully a lanuch at high tide on Tuesday.

No telling when the next internet, but we will try and keep in touch.
 
Bob

Just enjoy and if possible keep sharing with all of us. Found your report on todays land travels very interesting. Know that stretch of the road from the border to Prince Rupert very well and liked seeing the stretch along the Fraiser River again through your eyes and perpective. Know what you mean about the bicycles too. That's one of the few things I don't care for in Yellowstone Park. Narrow roads with no shoulders, oversized RV's and non-thinking bicycler's is not a good or safe mix and just about no matter what if you hit one it's your fault.

Seen bear in that stretch you drove today, but never a wolf.

Sounds about right for milage. With our duramax duelly towing the CD 22 we would average about 15 at that speed and empty near the same as you.

Most always found the lowest price diesel in Prince George at the Continental Shell station on the right side of the road off HY 97 very close to where it meets HY 16. I believe it was .81 a liter there last week on gasbuddy.com and gas was a dollar or better. Nice to have the break back near like what it used to be for diesel.

Like many others we'er sure looking forward to you sharing the rest of this trip and cruise.

Jay
 
Dr. Bob
I just came that way with my ProAngler on our way home to Alaska in mid-April. Several Canadian C-Brats "accosted" me along the way. That was fun.

You were seen by other C-Brats I know. There is no hiding from them.

Have a great trip and be safe. Keep the rest of us "knowed up" (an oilfield term) of your travels.

Jack
 
Several "C Brat type encounters today. The RV next to us had fished in a 25 out of Prince William Sound for a number of years (didn't remember the boat name, but the owner now has a 46 foot Bayliner.) Earlier a fellow at a gas station commented that "The same boat as "River Horse" was what we were trailering. At the same station, there was a fellow about my age driving a Honda Trike, with an 1800 CC (all custom built)--who was familiar with the C Dories, and who I am quite sure I met during my racing days when we both lived in Long Beach. Great Ice breakers!

I mentioned the "Mile Post" for those who do not know about this publication, it is a Wagoneers for the road, or cruising road guide, which lists each feature of the roads to Alaksa and through BC. It also has some information on the towns on the Marine highway. Essential for driving up this way.

We are about 330 miles from PR tonight. I doubt that we will launch tomarrow, but probably will wait until Tues PM (want to launch near high tide, with the steep ramp)--and allow enough time to park the truck. Weather is only fair for Dixon crossing on Wed, but with an early start, we should make it easily to Dundas Island or Foggy Bay, if it is a bit lumpy.

Today we did see deer, but no bears. Also horseback riders seemed as popular as the bicyclists in the valleys. Also lots of Harley riders--not sure where they are going. There is a cyclist camped next to us. He is making about 40 to 50 miles a day, towing a small trailer. The hot weather is beating him up. We suspect it will cool off--at least as we get to the coast.

Thanks for the comments. Hope to see some of the C Brats as we get up into AK. I'll have to look at the map and see who is where...We should be in Ketchikan at least by Thursday and Friday, and then up to Myers Chuck. Haven't sorted out the rest of the route, but it depends on the weather (and if we can catch any fish)--still looking foreward to our favorite halibut hole where we always limited out in the past--but no freezer on this boat! Thus only enough to eat will be taken....
 
Dr Bob,
That section of hiway from Hope to Prince Rupert is about my most favorite section of Canadian hiway. Love the Fraser canyon. Thanks for the post and the jog down memory lane. 'Cheery O' to Burns lake on the way through. Sounds like you are off onto my dream vacation, so enjoy and post when you can. And when you can't, enjoy the fishing. Good luck on the hali hole.

Safe travels, soft breezes and friendly wakes to you both.

Harvey
SleepyC
 
Less than 90 miles to splash, and surrounded by high snow capped mountains. The 9:00 PM train came by (hopefully the last for the evening--since the horn is deployed right about when the train is by the campsite).

Today was very lazy--lots of stops and photo taking. Spetacular scenery. After in the Campsite; C Dory tours to be given to other travelers. May have even found a convert or two...

Dinner at a pub with fresh Halibut and a good draft! Up here they even identify us as "yankees' by our acents!

We put the good cooler in the boat, switched the sirius over and all of the food and gear in stowed and ready to go.

One other trick we do, is to have the batteries of the boat charging from the truck alternator. This keeps the refigerator batteries topped off, and we don't have to worry about charging at the campsite if we don't want to.

Also I down loaded two tide and current programs on the net book and on my I touch. Top off the boat gas tank in PR and off we go.
 
We did the PR to Skagway (and back) cruise last week on the Norwegian Star. The weather was 72 and sunny with calm/slight seas every day. Here's hoping you enjoy the same weather.
 
WI FI thanks to Prince Rupert YC. Frequent Sea still floats, and the engine still runs! It is 60 degrees outside at 8:30 PM (of course the sun is still high!). We launched at mid rising tide and no problems with the ramp. I want to warn folks about the storage issue. The Four Seasons group across from Petro Canada is fine, and I went with them, becauase I felt obligated by the time that finances came around. HOWEVER...The fee is $3.00 a foot a month--with mininium of 3 months. Either that or $10 a day for each rig (truck and trailer) or $600 a month! The "free" trip to the YC is $20. So the information I recieved was a little misleading. It may be a good deal if you are going to stay for 3 months--but not if you are going to stay for a month--so call around and check out other options before commiting on one storage area. Also for very short term folks were parking nice trialers and trucks at the ramp parking area. I asked several locals and they felt that it was reasonably secure. We think that someone siphoned about 5 to 6 gallons of diesel out of my truck yesterday or last PM--we had filled up--and driven about 4 miles--the guage was full last night. Yesterday after parking for about an hour in a lot, we came out and the fuel door was open and the cap was off. I am sure it was put on when we had fueled up. So perhaps a locking fuel cap would be a good idea in this part of the world.

We head out for Ketchican in the AM--winds seem like they will be down early and we should make it in 4 to 5 hours. It was nearly 80 degrees in the sun and 72 in the shade in PR today. Doesn't get any better than that.

The road from Terrace had a bit of work being done, but no delays more than 15 minutes. In general the roads to Prince Rupert are better than many in Calif. Not a problem driving up here. The steepest grade we have found was 8 degrees, and not a problem going up or down.

So tomarrow we will enter the land of "Cruise liners"...
 
Bob and Marie , have a great trip! Sounds great for the both of you tireless wanderers. We will keep Florida going as best we can while you are gone ! Eat some Salmon and Crab for us !I look forward to the travel log .
Marc
 
Bob & Marie,
Wish you would adopt me!

Judy and I are looking forward in following in your wake in just a few years. Have a great trip and take lots of pictures.

On a note about your gas theif. We had our work truck (Box Chevy) hit while in the storage lot. We thought a locking gas cap was in order. With in two weeks of the event, I went to fill up the truck and had someone at the gas station hollar at me that I was pumping gas onto the ground. I looked under the truck and they had cut the gas fill hose to bypass the locking cap. That was $65.00 of gas on the ground later.

When we had the gas fill line replaced, the service center informed us how lucky we were that they cut the line instead of poking a hole in the gas tank (fiberglass..I think). So please consider yourself lucky...as they say.

Mike & Judy
 
Mike

Bet you were alot hotter than portrayed here when informed of the fuel going on the ground. That's the problem with most locking devices they hardly slow the determined thief down. Main reason I installed locking fuel cap on our duramax after market 56 gal fuel tank was to hopefully prevent someone from putting in additive that might stop the truck, take out the injectors or possibly the rest of the motor.

Even though locks don't always stop the loss still use them thinking maybe they will cause the thief to go after easier prey. Between camper tie downs, camper storage points and accesses, truck and camper doors, boat cabin, fuel cap, extended hitch, tow ball adjuster and shank, spare tire, and I know more that I can't think of off hand have so many keys I do alot fumbling when getting to anything.

Jay
 
I found a unsecure connection in Wrangel:

First day in AK. We got up at 5:30 and were underway by 6:30 through Venn passage. Slight fog and moderate haze, but little wind. The crossing of Dixon entrance was as smooth as we have seen. Also the first time with GPS chart plotter (previous with paper charts and GPS waypoints.) We saw a whale breech just after we entered the AK waters—and of course the US Coast Guard cutter right on the boarder. Not many boats North Bound—two sailboats were all that we saw—and they were not friendly—didn’t return waves. Maybe they won’t grow up and become C Dory owners!

On the other hand, when we explored these waters by sailboat, we took 3 days to go from PR—what we did in 5 hours today. Customs took about an hour to arrive—but quick when they did—just verified the information given over the phone. This is the first time we have ever had a customs agent board in the PNW—including the 4 years we cruised here in the 90’s and about half a dozen trips to Canada since.

Off to Tongrass Trading post and buying fishing licenses—gotten real expensive for the non residents. It would be much cheaper to buy a lot of fish at the market—but the Admiral wants to catch more Halibut—and perhaps a Salmon.

Safeway—and Waldonbooks—I found the book that Bill had mentioned on survival yesterday!

I guess that there is no un-employment problem in AK….we had walked by the little café at Bar Harbor marina several times (quite a distance for an old guy with heart disease). We went up to eat dinner—and were told that “reservations were necessary”—even though there were a dozen empty tables. It turns out that they could not hire enough servers! Wow—there are sure some folks in the lower 48 who would love to come up here and work!

Two C Dory 22’s right behind us—but no sign of their owners (Float 2 at BH south).

We will probably find an internet connection up the line and I’ll post this theen.

Day 2—to Meyers Chuck. We picked up more fuel at the North end of Bar Harbor—I had problems with my credit card—and because of the fuel purchase in Prince Rupert. Glad that the company is watching it! We paid $2.15 a gallon for gas—the cheapest we have seen so far—and I guess no “road tax”. We had picked up two extra 5 gallon cans at Tongrass Hardware and outfitting (along with some odds and ends of fishing gear. We want the range to make Ford’s terror, and some other coves from Petersburg to Juneau. I suspect that some displacement speeds will be necessary. We saw a couple more whales blow and then tail flip as they sounded. At Meyer’s Chuck we met up with a couple from BC in a 30 foot aluminum boat with a layout very similar to the C Dory—they had seen us in Prince Rupert and Juneau, so we had a great visit. Marie always hits it off with fishermen and we had visited with a couple who were traveling North. We left a few $$ in the gallery in Meyers Chuck—cards etc. There are almost twice as many homes there as were 15 years when we were last there. We also picked up some information on one of our friends who had lived in Thorne Bay, and then gone back to the Bush (Joe Mays, who had won the Ideridod in 1983 a trapper, sailor and ham operator who we had kept in touch with.

This Morning we awake to see another boat anchored in the bay. It turned out that a fishing boat had heard his distress call about 4 PM and finally found him at about 9 PM—and towed him back to Meyer’s Chuck from somewhere in Earnest sound. We had passed the fishing boat on the way to Wangrell, and they moored right ahead of us this evening. The power boat (about 45 foot long) didn’t have much in the way of towing gear or bits and the fishing boat skipper (from Port Angeles, Wa, was afraid that his deck cleats or windlass was going to pull out of the deck from the load. He described the owner of the power cruiser as “old”—Marie said—we are “old too”—his response was that thsese folks were much older—heart attack older!

We like challenges, and had never taken Canoe passage toward Wrangell. Problem was that it was almost low tide. Of course with the C Dory draft of about 14”, that should not present a problem….At the narrow and shoal area, Marie got on the bow, and counted the starfish directed me through the channel. We never saw less than 18” under the boat—so I probably didn’t need to have put the motor up as high as I did. At the end of the narrows one of our favorite boats was anchored—a Defever 49. We had to stop and talk with the owner for at least half an hour. He claimed to have taken his skiff through the narrows at a minus 1.4 tide. It certainly was a nice protected place, where he had seen at least 3 bears and a dozen dear the last day.

Well, all of that wonderful sunshine disappeared. We have 20% rain forecast for each of the next 6 days—at least for this area. Fog, rain, and a bit more wind---but that is what the C Dory is all about. We felt sorry for the couple of sailboats we passed, with the skippers in their foul weather gear in the cockpit!

Wrangell remains a wonderful working fishing town—although it is definitely larger than our last visit—it has about the same charm. There is an opening of Salmon for seine boats and a crab opening, so the docks are very busy. The gear is being loaded and supplies taken aboard. One 60 footer was so loaded that her scuppers were only 10” above the water and she was at least 6” below the water line foreward….

Our fishing boat friend is doing long line halibut inside Fredrick sound. Apparently there is a quota system. Last time we were here, there were openings of 24 to 48 hours—and it was a very dangerous situation, when boats which were not capable went to sea. This boat was very interesting. He had the fish hold converted into an aft stateroom, and all of the tubs of fishing gear were also stowed in racks to the side. It takes only a couple hours to remove this interior, pull the tubs out and convert it back into the ice hold for the fish.

Tomorrow off to Petersburg, via Wrangell Narrows. Of course the high tide is late in the day or early in the AM…but with the shoal draft and speed this is not too much of a problem. It is also nice to have the Garmin chart plotter with current stations and predictions very frequently. We also have a bit of a delema, with Ford’s Terror, entrance be necessary at high slack—either at about 6:40 in the AM or 7:30 in the PM…we will probably go for the PM going in—and AM going out. (We have clocked the current during max flood at over 15 knots when we were there in our Cal 46 and ran up against flood in our RIB.

Should be in Juneau in Mid next week.
 
Bob

Am really enjoying your sharing of cruise. Going along with Marie and you this way is great until we can do it ourselfs again next year.

Don't think you would have any trouble with the entrance to Ford's Terror at low slack. We didn't. Sure wouldn't advise running it either way between the High and low slack tide. We did with plenty of trouble :shock: .

You might consider taking the long way to Petersburg from Wrange by way of Rocky Pass and Kake. We sure enjoyed that route and I know El and Bill did too. Or if your present plans are set would be a good way to come back south.

Sure hope you enjoy the book Bill recomended. Jo-Lee and I sure did and the info in it could come in handy in the places you two are headed though I think the survival content of the book is pretty much already ingrained in you.

Have you made plans for after Juneau yet?

Jay
 
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