dogon dory
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Dan
We have two storage sites.
I have a 25' x 40' RV Barn out behind the house that will hold two boats with 10' and 12' doors.
The second is a rented covered slip at Bridge Bay Marina on Shasta lake.
From June until mid- October we keep our 24' pontoon boat in the slip, and during the other part of the year the C-Dory resides there. The boat not at the lake is in the barn, of course.
For full scale photos, click on my album to the left!
Joe.
We have two storage sites.
I have a 25' x 40' RV Barn out behind the house that will hold two boats with 10' and 12' doors.
The second is a rented covered slip at Bridge Bay Marina on Shasta lake.
From June until mid- October we keep our 24' pontoon boat in the slip, and during the other part of the year the C-Dory resides there. The boat not at the lake is in the barn, of course.
For full scale photos, click on my album to the left!
Joe.
I don’t store mine on the boat. If you want to store it there, clean and oil it then put it in a gun case. They are not that expensive if you don’t have one. If it is a pistol, you can wrap it up in an old t-shirt and place it in a ziplock bag, or if you have a food saver, use it in place of the ziplock bag.
I do
Salmon Slayer
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This has been an interesting thread. I carry a Glock 21 .45 Auto with a 13 round magazine. Simple and easy to maintain weapon and I am comfortable with it after so many years in the military with the 1911 and now Berretta. Its a backup bear weapon and personal safety insurance policy fo me and my wife when we are out in the wilds or remote areas. It also holds up well to a marine environment if you take care of it.
I do not carry a round chambered unless in a combat zone, definitely do not leave any weapons on board the boat when I am not on it, do not generally carry in town, and do not consider defense of property worthy of taking a life (now there is a subject for debate).
I also have shot guns of various guage (though no .410), various rifles for hunting and target practice, and a Colt Sporter AR-15. Thankfully weapons do not have to be registered up here yet and I never plan to register them or get a carry permit (not required in most of Alaska).
I would also state that Bear repellant or pepper spray is likely to blind you before it does much to deter the bear and no one I know uses it. I have had some brown bears chrge and then veer off and one particular bear likes to stalk deer hunters where I hunt looking for a gut pile (I presume) but I have never had to shoot a bear other than when hunting them.
I do not carry a round chambered unless in a combat zone, definitely do not leave any weapons on board the boat when I am not on it, do not generally carry in town, and do not consider defense of property worthy of taking a life (now there is a subject for debate).
I also have shot guns of various guage (though no .410), various rifles for hunting and target practice, and a Colt Sporter AR-15. Thankfully weapons do not have to be registered up here yet and I never plan to register them or get a carry permit (not required in most of Alaska).
I would also state that Bear repellant or pepper spray is likely to blind you before it does much to deter the bear and no one I know uses it. I have had some brown bears chrge and then veer off and one particular bear likes to stalk deer hunters where I hunt looking for a gut pile (I presume) but I have never had to shoot a bear other than when hunting them.
dogon dory
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Da Nag":1m74orof said:
Since I always open the safe prior to leaving home with the boaterhome, I know whether the batteries are good as I don't store the Glock there when I'm home. (I always carry extra batteries on board). (I treat the batteries to this safe just as I do the batteries in the smoke alarms at home....ie: test them periodically and I always know when I've last installed new batteries). Should a battery "malfunction" occur, there is a key lock that will override the batteries, but obviously that could slow you down at a critical time, however that doesn't mean that the firearm is in the safe all the time, it just provides a secure area in your boat if you don't choose to "pack it around". Round in the chamber?.......YEP! Boat storage at home? Securely locked in the shop with no firearms on board.
Salmon Slayer
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DogOnDory:
The bear density around here is about 1 per square mile and we have had a rash of "self defense" bear shootings by people who probably shoot before they need to. Even though I am out in bear country a lot, I have never had to shoot a nuisance or aggressive bear and I enjoy seeing them.
My point was that I used to hunt bears (dont any more) and coastal browns are particularly hard to bring down unless you have a LARGE caliber weapon. If you have ever had to skin one you know how tough their hides are and how robust their bone structure is.
I am armed in bear country as a precaution and I really dont feel particularly at risk but all this talk about .410s and other shot guns for bears makes me cringe. Even .12 guage buck shot would be next to worthless unless you are way closer to the bear than I would ever want to get.[/quote]
The bear density around here is about 1 per square mile and we have had a rash of "self defense" bear shootings by people who probably shoot before they need to. Even though I am out in bear country a lot, I have never had to shoot a nuisance or aggressive bear and I enjoy seeing them.
My point was that I used to hunt bears (dont any more) and coastal browns are particularly hard to bring down unless you have a LARGE caliber weapon. If you have ever had to skin one you know how tough their hides are and how robust their bone structure is.
I am armed in bear country as a precaution and I really dont feel particularly at risk but all this talk about .410s and other shot guns for bears makes me cringe. Even .12 guage buck shot would be next to worthless unless you are way closer to the bear than I would ever want to get.[/quote]
I never leave guns on my boat. I just carry it. I have no place to lock one up anyway since we have a Wooldridge with canvas. We may be getting closer to a CD, though, now that we're moving in June. We're selling our boat and will get another when we get to AL. Hope to find an affordable CD. Still up in the air...
starcrafttom
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416 moving from ak to al. have you gone mad? theres a climate change that I don't want to experience.
No, I haven't gone mad...but we're not thrilled, either. Uncle Sam says it's time to move. As they say "That's why they are called orders and not invitations." The climate change is going to be pretty bad. We're not "warm weather people." We were hoping for Washington because we love the NW climate.
It sure will be different. On the bright side, we can still boat all year long, the deer hunting is good, and fishing in the Gulf will be something different, too. We can also do some things we can't do here, like antique stores, concerts, etc. We'll make the best of it. No offense to the folks down there...it's just the climate that is going to be hard to deal with. When it gets to 70, it's warm enough for us...so we'll look forward to the winters!
It sure will be different. On the bright side, we can still boat all year long, the deer hunting is good, and fishing in the Gulf will be something different, too. We can also do some things we can't do here, like antique stores, concerts, etc. We'll make the best of it. No offense to the folks down there...it's just the climate that is going to be hard to deal with. When it gets to 70, it's warm enough for us...so we'll look forward to the winters!
starcrafttom
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Your coast guard right? I have spent a good bite of my life in the south and for the most part the people are great, weird but great. Its the weather I cant stand. in North carolina it hardly got above 90, but the humidity was awlful. And when it did get above 90 it stayed there for months day and night. in the west sure it gets hot but its dry and it cools off as the sun goes down. Good luck with the fishing in the south. thats the only thing I would go back for, in the winter.
I carry a 9mm H&K P7m8 ...........I live in a rural county so getting a CCP is very easy and most common..... I do shoot alot and feel myself a fair shot...I carry the 9mm rather than the .45 because I just can't hit well with the .45 and the 9mm is super accurate.
Bears ??? I aint shooting no stinking Bears.... I spend lots of nights in the parking lot of WalMart....and those are da folks I am defending myself from..
I think of myself as somewhat non-violent... but I reserve the right to defend myself.
Carry a round in the chamber....You Bet ! That second or two may save yer life... Safe storage ? Yea ...on my side, loaded.. I don't leave it on the boat... heck thats what insurance is for... steal the boat....but hurt Joey and/or family and STAND BYE. !!
Joel SEA3PO
Bears ??? I aint shooting no stinking Bears.... I spend lots of nights in the parking lot of WalMart....and those are da folks I am defending myself from..
I think of myself as somewhat non-violent... but I reserve the right to defend myself.
Carry a round in the chamber....You Bet ! That second or two may save yer life... Safe storage ? Yea ...on my side, loaded.. I don't leave it on the boat... heck thats what insurance is for... steal the boat....but hurt Joey and/or family and STAND BYE. !!
Joel SEA3PO
I can see having some sort of firearm onboard for recreational shooting and hunting but I personaly don't know many who would be able to actualy pull a trigger on another human being. Especialy this group here.statistics show that most shootings happen with their own gun. although personal protection could be a pretty good excuse to get the OK from the one with the purse strings to go out and purchase one....lol....
I have never shot a high power hand gun and probably never will. Except for my flintlock pistols that we used in trail walks in the Mountain Man reenacting that I used to participate in.
I gave that all up for the C-Dory and boating & fishing.
I have never shot a high power hand gun and probably never will. Except for my flintlock pistols that we used in trail walks in the Mountain Man reenacting that I used to participate in.
I gave that all up for the C-Dory and boating & fishing.
dogon dory
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El and Bill
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Alabama? FIRST IN THE NATION: 1,428 MILES OF NAVIGABLE RIVERS!!
http://www.geocities.com/bill_fiero/alabama.htm
Yep, warm and humid, but my, what great boating! Now let's hear from Byrdman.
http://www.geocities.com/bill_fiero/alabama.htm
Yep, warm and humid, but my, what great boating! Now let's hear from Byrdman.
Yes, Tom, I'm CG. Actually I'm off to Anchorage very shortly for a situation with a grounded ship, so I'll be away a few days.
Roger,
but I personaly don't know many who would be able to actualy pull a trigger on another human being. Especialy this group here.
Being in this group has nothing to do with one's self-preservation instinct. If a situation is grave, I think everyone would react accordingly. If someone was trying to abduct your child or otherwise do harm to you or a family member, I am quite certain that no one would stand by and do nothing. The will to live is instinctive, as is the protection of loved ones, and we all have it.
Yes, there is a lot of water in AL...but it's soooo HOT!
Rick
Roger,
but I personaly don't know many who would be able to actualy pull a trigger on another human being. Especialy this group here.
Being in this group has nothing to do with one's self-preservation instinct. If a situation is grave, I think everyone would react accordingly. If someone was trying to abduct your child or otherwise do harm to you or a family member, I am quite certain that no one would stand by and do nothing. The will to live is instinctive, as is the protection of loved ones, and we all have it.
Yes, there is a lot of water in AL...but it's soooo HOT!
Rick
Dusty,
The Snake Charmer makes an interesting story in Canada. We crossed the Border in Idaho about tree years ago. Before we left we got the law from the Feds up there. (Same as our ATF). They specifically permit a 410 shotgun" Snake Charmer" with a 18 inch barrel. It costs $50.00 for a number of guns. We also took a 12 Ga. Riot gun. They could not find a serial # for the 12 Ga., but that was no problem. He had to call the boss on the 410. Boss said it was OK. We went on to Prince of Wales. Coming back into Canada they were going to confiscate the 410 . They had a written directive from local boss (Customs) that said " No Snake Charmers" I demanded my $50 bucks back if they were going to keep my gun. They said "nope" I told them I would not leave untill they gave me the gun back. It took two hours for them to go all the way to the top and found out that that gun is on the list, by name that it is legal all over canada. I got my gun back. They have taken or prevented people from bringing them into the country for years. Yet they gave me a written permit to start with and than wanted to take it away on the other side.
I thought you might be interested is that little diddy.
Captd
The Snake Charmer makes an interesting story in Canada. We crossed the Border in Idaho about tree years ago. Before we left we got the law from the Feds up there. (Same as our ATF). They specifically permit a 410 shotgun" Snake Charmer" with a 18 inch barrel. It costs $50.00 for a number of guns. We also took a 12 Ga. Riot gun. They could not find a serial # for the 12 Ga., but that was no problem. He had to call the boss on the 410. Boss said it was OK. We went on to Prince of Wales. Coming back into Canada they were going to confiscate the 410 . They had a written directive from local boss (Customs) that said " No Snake Charmers" I demanded my $50 bucks back if they were going to keep my gun. They said "nope" I told them I would not leave untill they gave me the gun back. It took two hours for them to go all the way to the top and found out that that gun is on the list, by name that it is legal all over canada. I got my gun back. They have taken or prevented people from bringing them into the country for years. Yet they gave me a written permit to start with and than wanted to take it away on the other side.
I thought you might be interested is that little diddy.
Captd
I finally caught up on my reading on this thread....Wow, we got some gun people in our crowd. It brought to mind a question. How many of the members are supporters of the N.R.A.? Without people's support of the second amendment and the N.R.A. there wouldn't be much to discuss on this topic. Huh? :roll:
These next two elections will mean everything. Need I say more?
Captd
These next two elections will mean everything. Need I say more?
Captd
I don't know if anyone has watched "Grizzly Man" on Discovery, but other than some outstanding bear and other wildlife shots, it seems to be a self portrait of someone about a full bubble out of plumb.
Without any sort of firearm, his ability to be that close to bears really depended on the bears thinking that he was bigger and meaner. However, a man is not a credible deterent to a bear without a weapon. Unarmed a man is not on top of the food chain any longer, and sooner or later the bears will figure it out.
Katmai is just like the inner city, you are only bigger and meaner until someone or something proves otherwise.
Timothy Treadwell was inside the Katmai National Park and Preserve. The specific location where he was is in the Preserve portion meaning it was open for sport hunting to Alaska residents. He says he was protecting the bears, however, he was also violating the law if he harrassed hunters, and in some respects he was actually aiding hunters by habituating the bears to people. I prefer bears that run off when people show up.
Without any sort of firearm, his ability to be that close to bears really depended on the bears thinking that he was bigger and meaner. However, a man is not a credible deterent to a bear without a weapon. Unarmed a man is not on top of the food chain any longer, and sooner or later the bears will figure it out.
Katmai is just like the inner city, you are only bigger and meaner until someone or something proves otherwise.
Timothy Treadwell was inside the Katmai National Park and Preserve. The specific location where he was is in the Preserve portion meaning it was open for sport hunting to Alaska residents. He says he was protecting the bears, however, he was also violating the law if he harrassed hunters, and in some respects he was actually aiding hunters by habituating the bears to people. I prefer bears that run off when people show up.