C-Dory has been sold

Although I have somewhat paid my debt to Bill for this site, I owe Mike for both the site and his suggestion that no life is so bad that a West Highland White Terrier pup cannot make it more so! So here you are Mike!

As told to me by his loving wife Patty Bickar (and a few friends who shall remain nameless).

When they were first married, Porky and Patty lived in the back of a small mom & pop country store where they had rented the basement. As times were tight, Patty canned some cucumbers and warned Porky to stay the hell out of the jars, which were lined up along near ceiling joist in the basement. Patty made it clear that she would add some breathing holes in Porky’s hide if he touched those jars as she well knew Porky’s curiosity. Of course nothing like that was going to stop him so Porky promptly jumped up, stole a jar and ran outside with it where the store owners were holding a picnic. Patty was and still is an ace shot and not about to let Porky get away with that so she popped one off out of a pistol she had nearby, just missing Porky’s hind end. For some reason this caused the picnic guest’s great concern, until they discovered the crime. Porky escaped the noose that time.

One does not mess with Patty’s canned goods!

Through out their marriage, Patty was Porky’s equal. Porky passed several years ago, Patty’s absolute love for him is still quite obvious nor has she lost any of her “true grit”! Porky was a great artistic metal worker and placed several large metal moose around town, including one in Sitka’s downtown Swan Lake. Three years ago, a St. Patty’s Day jokester painted the moose green. Although Patty does indeed have thick skin from so many years of pranks, she had enough of this green moose a couple months ago and wrote a polite letter requesting that the moose be returned to its original rust brown façade. Needless to say, Sitka now has its brown moose once again peacefully munching dinner out of the lake. This may seem rather tame to many, but getting anything done in Sitka usually takes three committees and at least two years of planning.

When Patty politely asks that something be done, it happens! Since Patty taught the vast majority of Sitka kids through out her many years in our school system, Sitka adults are well aware that what Mrs. Bickar asks you to do, YOU DO!

Porky spared no one in his pursuit of a good joke.

Not too long ago, Sitka was the host of a large conference of Telephone Execs and Community Leaders dealing with the challenges of providing reliable telephone service to the remote islands in S.E. Alaska. Fed up with the tardiness in dealing with this issue, Porky had a cage of pigeons delivered AND set free in the large conference facility as the meeting commenced. The pigeons remained free and perched in the rafters throughout the meeting with frequent reminders of their presence raining down among the participants. This apparently assisted the meeting participants in resolving the issues in record time.

S.E. Alaska now has reliable telephone service, although Porky’s place was supposedly one of the last places to get hooked up

As one might imagine, Porky had a group of good friends who were up to his tricks and who ran a healthy competition to determine exactly who the best prankster in town was.

Porky had a lawyer friend draw up official looking papers that stated a local crab dealer's outfit down on the water was polluting the Sitka channel. Porky had the papers served on Labor Day weekend shutting the place down.

The owner had told Porky years before that Porky could come down and take some crab out of the pots behind the place if he ever wanted any. One evening after Porky’s little prank, Porky decided to hold a crab dinner for some important out of town friends. Since this dinner was a last minute affair and required Porky to show off, Porky decided to serve fresh crab. Patty told Porky that he better clear it with the owner so Porky called him and got permission to go down to the dock and pick up the crab. Porky proceeded down to the dockside outfit with these out of town big shots to show them just how fresh these crabs were and how a real Alaskan grabs a live crab dinner, but when Porky was taking the crabs out the cops showed up and arrested him for theft.

Now Porky was on the Police Commission but the cops that were sent to arrest him were new and had no idea who this guy was. They had been told that this Porky guy was a notorious thief and in great need of incarceration. Porky was needless to say handled the way any notorious crab thief should be treated and it really didn’t matter to the police who these fancy dressed mucky-mucks with him were.

When this procession all showed up at the police station the regular cops were waiting and had a great laugh as they made the unamused rookies release Porky from handcuffs.

Although many have heard of Porky’s tire fire in the local dormant volcano and this accomplishment has been rated as one of the top twenty world wide pranks of all time, what is not as well known is what occurred during a local parade.

Another “good friend” of Porky’s sold Porky an old Model A Ford, Porky carefully fixed it up in secret specifically for it’s début in the parade. At the last minute, this “good friend” came over from Juneau with his "girlfriend" and wanted to ride in parade knowing full well that all seats in the car were already taken, When Porky explained he had no room, this friend happily claimed space on the roof of the vehicle.

Now as with all small towns, Sitka’s annual parades are well attended community events and Porky was as happy as he got showing off this newly restored Model A.

Patty was where she always stood and in charge of the numerous school kids taking a break to watch the parade. Patty was a natural for this job as few kids dared to “act-out” in her presence; none made such mistakes more than once. In her position by Sitka’s landmark Russian Church, (located in the middle of Sitka’s main street), Patty could monitor not only her charges but could as well keep an eye out for any of those local adults that may need a quick stern look to let them know they needed keep a lid on their celebrations until her charges were back safely in the classroom. Sitka folk tend to start their partying early in the day given half the chance.

As Porky came driving around the Church, he was amazed at the reaction his Model A had on the crowd. Yes like at most parades it is standard for everyone to wave and cheers for the best costume, float, band performance or horse is expected, but despite Porky’s cheerful waves and tossing of candy “kisses” to the crowd, what he received in return were absolute stunned looks and silence. You’d think people remembered what a Model A looked like but to Porky it appeared like he’d just driven the town’s first Ferrari for all to see. Dumbfounded is a good description for the looks he saw staring back at his friendly waves.

Until he rounded the curve by the Church and looked into Patty’s eyes.

She was as mad as he had ever witnessed, and it obviously had something to do with him.

As Porky had not recently stolen any fresh canned goods that he could remember, Porky had no idea what was going on. In fact, it was not until the parade was finished and he had met Patty at the end of the parade route that he discovered how close to a bull’s-eye he had become. How Patty had ran over a mile in less than two minutes is still a topic used to prod Sitka’s running teams to glory. They don’t stand a chance.

When Porky had last seen his rooftop passengers, the supposed girlfriend of Porky’s buddy had climbed up top wearing the typical South East Alaska attire, a logger’s oversized flannel shirt and blue jeans, but by the time the Model A made it to the Church, she had her pants off and was in process or removing the shirt. According to Patty she had "two postage stamps and a thimble on" and not much more.

Although Patty did her best to control her charges, sex-ed came several decades early to Sitka’s youth that year.

Porky was even more puzzled as he arrived at the end of the parade route and witnessed Patty not only waiting there for him but laying into him with the most foul "fisherman's wife" language anyone in this rough neck fishing and logging town had ever heard.

The rooftop sex-ed specialist had by that time covered up and split down the street. This “girlfriend” turned out to be a professional striper hired for the job. She was later arrested and sent to Ketchikan on a one way - don’t even think of returning - ticket.

Porky still had no idea what was going on as the girl had put her clothes back on before they stopped. It took several minutes of Patty chewing him out before Porky realized he’d been had. Despite his connections with the Police Department, Porky was promptly arrested and tossed in jail with a $250 bail. Love conquers all as they say as Patty posted bail, but she may have taken a little longer than necessary to find that last $10 bill.

Porky’s Lawyer friend got all charges against Porky dismissed the next day when it was determined that Porky knew nothing about the prank. The “good friend” and the now famous Model A disappeared that night. Patty saw to it that space was made on the ferry and that neither the car nor the “good friend” ever returned. Although the Police did have an outstanding warrant for his arrest, it was the fear of Patty that kept both away.

Patty made sure that Porky apologized to the entire town and the kids via the radio next morning.

The “girlfriend” made the mistake many years later of bragged about the event in a bar in Portland Oregon only to learn that Porky's daughter was there. Patty’s daughter was up to the task and the “girlfriend” quickly exited the building. Fortunately there were no pistols available at the time as all of Porky and Patty’s kids share both the Bickar humor and great skills. Porky’s son Brian runs the community welding shop and is greatly respected for his work. Despite his mother’s influence, there are a few great Brian stories out there as well.

Although many years have passed since this event, Patty still does not see the humor in it. Yes, I witnessed first hand the look that Patty is famous for when I made the mistake of laughing as she described her horror of watching the “postage stamps and thimble” first come ‘round the corner.

This world needs a lot more Patty’s, Porky’s, Mike's and Bill's!
 
RdAgnt":2q5fadi0 said:
B~C":2q5fadi0 said:
do you notice how Tyboo Mike tries to derail this thread and DaNag Bill is curiously quiet and they started selling that fancy web site advertising? kind of makes you wonder doesn't it? :)
What's your point?
Evan


Methinks there was a little leg pullin' going on. :wink
 
Fluid Marine Rich,

Congratulations on your new endeavor. I'm sure everyone on this site is interested in your success. The Tolands and Reynolds left you a wonderful legacy to live up to. I'm sure there are exciting times ahead!

Chivita Dave,

That was a great story! Thanks for posting it! It reminded me of my mom :)
 
RdAgnt":1uquvyzb said:
B~C":1uquvyzb said:
do you notice how Tyboo Mike tries to derail this thread and DaNag Bill is curiously quiet and they started selling that fancy web site advertising? kind of makes you wonder doesn't it? :)

What's your point?
Evan

ROTFLMAO. With only two posts, you're definitely a newcomer Evan. There have been accusations over the years that the pair of Bald Eagles were secretly on the C-Dory payroll and receiving kickbacks for all the business this site has sent to C-Dory dealers over the years.

B~C's post was more for those who experienced that little glitch in an almost perfect "Just Be Nice" environment.

Don
 
Rich Finlay,
Welcome to the C Dory/C Brat family. Congratulations of your acquisition of C Dory.

As a group the owners are a very powerful marketing force--and are the best "salesmen" for the product line. I don't know your marine background, but was able to find some of your other endeavors on line. Hopefully with depth of capital C Dory will address some of the quality control issues, and have an ongoing discourse with the forum members.

Byrdman, don't sell a CEO short as a factory rep. The CEO is the person who should make or break the company in a critical time in the marine industry.
The impression I have here at Trawler Fest, is that boat sales are very slow, and the marine industry is depressed severely. One of the best futures of the industry is the trailerable boat, such as the C Dory line.
 
Mr. Finlay,

Congratulations on purchasing a very unique boat building company. I wish you all the best in your endeavor and look forward to seeing the results of the management/owner change.
I hope you can carry on with all the kibitzing from the C-BRAT crowd. Actually I have discovered a wealth of knowledge from the members and hopefully some of that can be used by you in your rebuilding process.
As my C-Dory is very old (25 yrs. bought directly from Mark Toland in 1983) I look forward to shopping for a replacement when the products from your watch hit the dealers.

Jack in Alaska.........on the HIGH TIDE
 
Mr Finlay,
I hope this is a dream come true for you and you enjoy great success. To be in the drivers seat of a company with this kind of history that builds the coolest boats in the world has got to be exciting. I look forward to meeting you some time. Don't be a stranger around here. We love our boats, this company and really try hard to "just be nice" to others here.
Welcome aboard,
Jeff & Cathy Brigner :smiled
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THATAWAY-BOB: Man, Chill Brother.

I only mentioned Jeff Messmer as being at the factory. I think my statement stands taller than any title. Jeff is my friend. I could care less what his title was. That is also part of what I liked about Jeff the most...he was the CEO.... and, he was just a normal person. He called and we talked often. We were both always welcome in the others home. I think we are both really just people ...people.

Bob, you should know that when I am around our C-Brats...one of the things I like most is the no titles. We just folks that love our boats and enjoy using them. Maybe it was the way I was brought up... to treat everyone the same with dignity and respect. Let them screw you,....then treat them different. Job titles do not make a man, ...their actions and service do. My late Father often went around looking homeless...or, just dressed real comfortable. He found it interesting how many folks treated him....some with big titles. My Father "Martin Aloysius Byrd"....well,, he just liked to be called Martin or Pappa Byrd. He really kept an eye on folks when they went to Mr. Byrd.

On the service part Bob.... I have truly loved you input on this site and in depth informative way of fixing things. Loved the times we have spent on the docks with your lovely bride too. Enjoyed our emails together. Yall need to drop buy some time and feel sure I will be down in your neighborhood some later in the Fall or Winter...particularly with the folks now in your neighborhood.

So... Back to topic:

Fred....or Mr. Finley if YOU prefer.... Like Jeff Brigner said.... Come on down to the Southeast for a visit into the Heartland area of our Country. We generally have one to three C-Brat gatherings a year on/around the Cumberland/TN rivers in the Nashville TN area.

I prefer to be called just plain ol "Byrdman."
 
This is probably the best time in the next 25 years to buy a good used boat, or if you have a little more change in your pocket, a good used boat company. With the proper management and marketing, I think C-Dory can come through this time as one of the winners. I believe that the original C-Dory was a response to boating through the last oil crisis. The 16 and 22 are very economical and easy to tow with a smaller vehicle. A lean company building those kinds of boats looks to have the best chance to succeed in this new era.

I wouldn't want to own a dealership or boat manufacturer now that focused on flash or speed. Those boats are going to be out of fashion for a long time. The Toland's rode through several economic ups and downs by focusing on the utilitarian, rugged, efficient qualities of C-Dories. Those qualities are back in fashion.

I do hope that the new owners figure out the value of Les Lampman, Jr's knowledge and advice and give him some kind of consulting or advisory role in the new company. I'm biased, but I don't think there is anyone that knows small boats and their enthusiasts better than Les.
Lyle
 
Byrdman,

My post had nothing to do with Jeff Messmer (who I had the pleasure of visiting with yesterday), I am not sure who "Fred" or Mr Finley is; but Rich Finlay is the new CEO of the group who owns C Dory, and this is who I was refering to, and I thought you were referring to as a "factory rep".

I have no idea of Rich Finlay will become a "C Brat" but I sincerely hope that he will, and will bring the quality of the boats back to what they were in the past. He has a very big order on his plate, and I am sure that all of us can help him move forward. Hopefully he will come to our gatherings. Jeff Messmer, Les Lampson, John Livingston were all at the C Brat Function at Anacortes, but there was no representative of the C Dory factory.

Regrads,
 
Ya know what, Lyle? Around San Diego you would never know there's a change in habits due to fuel costs. Oh a small percentage are moving to public transportation but the overall attitude is "bite the bullet and buy the gas." Nobody's buying new boats and nobody's buying new Hummers but overall it's business as usual.

The big diesel boats still stay at the marina 90% of the time as they always did, the ones that go to Catalina for holiday just plan "Staycations" this year and stay home. The fishermen grumble but fill their tanks and head out 100 miles at an average mpg of maybe 1. The blow boats are definitely crowing over their "advantage" but nobody pays attention to those guys anyway.

The RV world is similar. Hold off new purchases, yes, but hold off a vacation for $5/gallon fuel cost, with hotels now at $150/night and up? Hey, no way. Spending one night in your RV pays for 200 miles of driving and that's if your gas hog gets 7 mpg and fuel is $5/gallon.

You are right though. If C-Dory can hang in there through this cyclic economic slump, they will be well positioned for the inevitable recovery. Especially if, as rumor already has it, they go back to doing what they did best - building strong, tough "character" boats, with classic styling.

Don
 
I agree with Bess-C, Les is an invaluable asset with a fiercly loyal following. His credibility is without peer.
Les & C-Dory was a marriage made in heaven, IMO worth Fluid Marine's time to pick up the phone and say hello.
 
BTW Jeff M. was never the CEO............... None of that really matters . Its a new dawn for C Dory . I am looking forward to a series of well thought out improvements to the Company . Its a great legacy as evidenced here . I will look forward to meeting the new management. Might even make a suggestion or two..........
Marc
 
Good Day My Fellow C-Brats!!

Bob, I am sorry if I ruffeled your feathers Brother.

Byrdman Hugs Bob. :hug Bob :hug2

I called Rich...Fred...by accedient. I hate it when that happens. Maybe he has a brother named Fred. Often when my Mother address' us...she does sort of this roll call thing until she hits the right name... if we grin a bit too early....and are within arms reach... we are what gets hit. :mrgreen:

Rich, Please forgive me.

Bob, I refered to Jeff simply due to your message... and called Mr. Finlay factory rep...simply because that is what is listed in his profile info in the column of his post on page 3. Will try a cut-n-paste from page 3 of this forum.

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Fluid Marine
C-Dory Factory Representative
Joined: 23 May 2008
Posts: 1
City/Region: auburn/northwest
State or Province: WA
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I think we are all hoping for brighter things from the factory. I think we all think a lot of these boats and we only want the best for the company, no matter who is in charge, and we only want quality out of our C-Dory boats. Speaking for myself, I have had much fun and travel mixing it up with the C-Brats in many gatherings in our Nation.

Byrdman
 
Welcome aboard Mr. Finlay.

As another C-Dory boat owner, I wish you success in this new endeavor. You wouldn't have put up the capital if you didn't know what special boats our C-Dorys are. You will not find a more enthusiastic, loyal, and passionate owners group. Your participation (or someone from the factory) will only add to that loyality and passion; that is something the previous owners completely dismissed.

In these interesting economic times, when many boat manufacturers are scrambling to stay afloat, the C-Dory product line can be a bright spot in an otherwise bleak industry. Again, you would not have made the investment without significant research. There is a wealth of marketing to be had from this group, and all it takes is treating us like you care. Most of us here want to see the people who lead this company care as much as we do. Ask our opinions, learn from our enthusiastic use of these boats, and continue to improve the product and control the quality of production... you will have our support.

There is an interesting cast of characters here... and it would be a welcome addition to see the factory play a part in this forum. A small cost in time for a large return in owner enthusiasm.

Quality and customer care are attributes that come from the top down in any company... many of us look forward to a new direction from the leadership of C-Dory.

Sincerely,
Jim Bathurst
CD-25 owner (Wild Blue)
 
Congratulations, Mr. Finlay, and welcome to our messy world here!

I think this is a time of great opportunity for C-Dory, especially considering the wide variety of craft and the economical operation choices.

Even my somewhat big TC 255 TomCat can cruise slowly on autopilot with great efficiency and enjoyment!

The C-Brats and most owners are a pretty good bunch, and most of us really want C-Dory to succeed so that many more can enjoy the water using and living in these unique little boats.

I you want to see some 'quirky' marketing, the sort similar to the MiniUSA.com site might be a clue, although maybe not quite so... But the customer service of the Mini crew is something to behold and consider!

There are a bunch of us baby boomers and just behind that who are finally in a position to make our "mini-cruising" dreams come true and the C-Dory craft's unique design niche fits the bill perfectly for this time.

While I doubt anything I could do would help much, I'm certainly willing to do anything reasonable to help you all make this purchase work.

Again, congrats!

John
 
Chivita":2c16huox said:
Although I have somewhat paid my debt to Bill for this site, I owe Mike for both the site and his suggestion that no life is so bad that a West Highland White Terrier pup cannot make it more so! So here you are Mike!

Dave, thanks so much for the tale. There's a guy in our shop who spent most of his 50 years in Stika and he told me about that Porky character. He had the last name spelled wrong so I wasn't able to find anything on the web about him. Spell Bickar right and Google has a bunch of stuff. Not nearly as good as what you wrote up, though. Thank you again.

And sorry about the dog.
 
OK Mr. Finlay-buy the company and you're an honorary C-Brat, buy a C-Dory boat and you're a genuine C-Brat. Can I have a free hat? Remember, anything you want to know about C-Dory, just ask. Welcome aboard.
 
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