C-Dory 25 vs Venture 23

South of Heaven":3kfdb3aa said:
25 vs 23? Or 22 vs 23? ????

Simple. 25 over 23. And 23 over 22.

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Jason, Jason, Jason. That might be simple for some, and coming from you, I guess we should really learn from your example. Or . . . .

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2005 Silverton 35 Motoryacht (Twin 385 Crusaders) (SOLD 6/20)

2000 Camano 31 Troll (Volvo TAMD41p) (SOLD 2/19)

2007 C Dory 25' Cruiser (200 hp Suzuki, sold 7/17)

2003 C Dory 19' Angler (80 hp Yamaha, sold 7/16)

1995 C Dory 16' Angler (40 hp Yamaha, sold 2/16)

OR ????????????? :lol:

Harvey
SleepyC :moon

PS: I guess I missed the MY sale. Now what?

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The 22 and 23 are pretty similar boats. I consider the 23 to be an updated 22, but they were originally competitors in the market. The 22 is a classic, and many owners will tell you nothing needed to be updated with the 22. A bit more deadrise with the 23, but more similar than different.

The 25 is a much larger boat in every dimension and about a ton heavier than the 22. Some folks say it is a 22 with an enclosed head/shower, but it is much more than that - more amenities, more storage, and more elbow room.
 
The 23 slightly better ride in chop; 8" longer and 4" wider. I personally like the simplicity of the interior of the 22, no liner.

The 25 is a much bigger boat 8 1/2' beam and 25' 5" long. Weight with trailer in the 7500 to 8000 # range. The 25 ride is going to be better.
 
thataway":1nlcmcyh said:
The 23 slightly better ride in chop; 8" longer and 4" wider. I personally like the simplicity of the interior of the 22, no liner.
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If you get the 23 Venture Sport, it comes without the option of a liner. This is what we have. I appreciate the simplicity of the spray in stipple for ease of cleaning, durability and maintenance in place of the liner.
 
We saw the sport 23 today and looks good for us. We would opt not to have a liner. Thanks for comments. Anyone in the Seattle area that has a 23 Venture sport to let us look at?
 
ktoot, consider driving up to the C-Dory factory in Fairhaven Wa. for a tour of the model you are considering. Call to see if they have that model being constructed. We did this before buying ours and were able to see one with the hull being fabricated and one in final detail before delivery. Feel free to PM me for additional information.
 
Master Marine in Mt Vernon has a 23 Venture and a 23 Sport? I am sure they would love to let you crawl around on them, if they are open. They are just south of Mt Vernon on the west side of I-5. Have fun.
 
Ktoot, I have the 23' Venture with the liner and I love it. I don't see it mentioned on this thread that blankets, pillows and sleeping bags that happen to be next to the hull in the V-berth don't get wet from condensation. And I don't have morning cabin sweat to wipe down. I think the liner yields a finished look that's also easy to clean and just might make my boat a little quieter and warmer. My boat's kept indoors, but if it wasn't I'd be more concerned about the possibility of mold. But NMI has added liners to their Sea Sports for years and said they've worked out very well.

I had a 16' Angler for a spell and also loved the liner-free look, so I can certainly see why guys feel that way. After all, that's a classic C-Dory look. I didn't used to be a liner guy; thought it was too Ranger-like. But now spoiled with a liner, I wouldn't go back. Know, too, that the V-berth and cockpit are subtly but appreciably larger in the 23'. Owned three years next week, 40 trips, 513 hours, it's a darn fine boat.
 
The liner makes more sense in the colder climates. Here in FL, I have seen many boats with mold in the foam. Also delimitation of the foam/vinyl/cabin. If you were to keep AC going to keep temp and humidity, it would probably work ok here also.
 
Nobody has mentioned the Venture 26...I know the Venture 23 feels considerably roomier inside than a C-Dory 22. The Venture 26 probably feels a bit roomier than a C-Dory 25. I would at least put that into the mix. Also, a personal point - we have had a CD 22 and now have CD 25 - it would be very hard for us to go back to the 22 - it is not mainly the head, it is the "elbow room" in the 25!
 
Hi Daydream,

We are downsizing from a 40 foot sailboat. Bigger is not necessarily better for us. The 25 is nice, but we want to keep it at our house. The Venture 23 cockpit is wider and it has many features that we like. Most importantly, it fits in the space we have.
 
To me, there is nothing subtle about the difference in the ride between a Venture 23 vs. 22 Cruiser. The Venture I rode in - Catman's - was nothing short of amazing.

I'd be happy in either, but if budget is not a consideration - I find the Venture 23 more refined and enjoyable. Especially with the lined interior.
 
We are going to see Catman's boat on Sunday. Looks great in his pictures! I like liners, as I had them in all my sailboats. Took care of the moisture problem.
 
Hello. Not mentioned here in this thread is the Venture series being different in a couple of other ways as well. The Venture series are not self bailing, at least not the 26, not positive on the 23 and I believe they both have a bilge.

They are also built with foam core. Positives? Negatives?

I’d really like to see both. We’ve been on the 22 classic, very fine boat but want to go a little bigger. We sea trialed an Aspen CAT. Oh man, that was a dream. Wife loved it over the Dory by a long shot. She may need a different husband. We might be able to swing a used C90 but that would be at the top of the budget and would also get us a new C-Dory. We are looking 23 or 26 but I haven’t been on a 23. Also really like the 25 myself. I loved the Aspen CAT, we were on a C107, OMG, what an amazing ride but you pay for it. Just can’t swing those funds, unless we go big and sell the house...wink..wink....

Can someone please chime in on the self bailing verse non self bailing? I get the concept and don’t see an issue with either other then the non self bailing could fill with rain water and loose batter power at a slip so bilge pump doesn’t work.
Other than that.... don’t think it matters. Thoughts?
 
Hello. Not mentioned here in this thread is the Venture series being different in a couple of other ways as well. The Venture series are not self bailing, at least not the 26, not positive on the 23 and I believe they both have a bilge.

They are also built with foam core. Positives? Negatives?

I’d really like to see both. We’ve been on the 22 classic, very fine boat but want to go a little bigger. We sea trialed an Aspen CAT. Oh man, that was a dream. Wife loved it over the Dory by a long shot. She may need a different husband. We might be able to swing a used C90 but that would be at the top of the budget and would also get us a new C-Dory. We are looking 23 or 26 but I haven’t been on a 23. Also really like the 25 myself. I loved the Aspen CAT, we were on a C107, OMG, what an amazing ride but you pay for it. Just can’t swing those funds, unless we go big and sell the house...wink..wink....

Can someone please chime in on the self bailing verse non self bailing? I get the concept and don’t see an issue with either other then the non self bailing could fill with rain water and loose batter power at a slip so bilge pump doesn’t work.
Other than that.... don’t think it matters. Thoughts?
 
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