A/C HOW IMPORTANT
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Sounds as though we looked at the same boats 
Thinking wife might want to get on top to sunbathe
So, AC's out
And I don't like the idea of the extra weight up there all the time
Depends on if you're planning on docking where there's electric I suppose,
although a little Honda 2000 would run it
And the head that takes the place of the rear dinette seat...
Nope, maybe if it included a shower
Anyone here ever install a shower on their back deck?
Are these boats self bailing? I doubt it, not with the flat design
One more thing I've got to do, build a sump for the rear pump
Thinking wife might want to get on top to sunbathe
So, AC's out
And I don't like the idea of the extra weight up there all the time
Depends on if you're planning on docking where there's electric I suppose,
although a little Honda 2000 would run it
And the head that takes the place of the rear dinette seat...
Nope, maybe if it included a shower
Anyone here ever install a shower on their back deck?
Are these boats self bailing? I doubt it, not with the flat design
One more thing I've got to do, build a sump for the rear pump
We finally broke down and put on a Coleman 9200 AC unit on top of my roof on my cc23 Venture .I should have done this 10 years ago what a beautiful and cool thing to have .Also did not really cut down on economy or top speed maybe 1 mph if that . With the curtains up it is comfortable in90 degree days .It takes the Humidity out and that is what you need .We did not need to reinforce the roof it is almost 7/8 in balsa cored very solid install .Jim
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I live in coastal N.C. I had rather have A/C than a head, shower, and stove. Seriously, I would trade all three for just A/C.
I don't own a C-Dory yet, and may end up building a Great Alaskan Skiff as my next boat, but whichever one I end up with will have a rooftop-mounted A/C powered by a Honda eu2000i generator.
I don't own a C-Dory yet, and may end up building a Great Alaskan Skiff as my next boat, but whichever one I end up with will have a rooftop-mounted A/C powered by a Honda eu2000i generator.
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jennykatz":2jl8rbze said:
Jim, how loud is that Coleman unit? Is it tolerable while sitting in there or underway?
One more consideration: go for the CD-25... you can have an enclosed head w/shower (hot and cold pressure water), A wash-down station in the cockpit, full 30 amp electrical system, fridge, larger dinette (with convertible front facing seat), more elbow room and storage, a larger v-berth, bigger cockpit, better ride in chop. Add an A/C on top (some have already done that), and you are good to go.
Yes, you will need a heavier tow vehicle. Instead of trying to squeeze all you want into a smaller boat... well, you know.
Good luck with the search.
Yes, you will need a heavier tow vehicle. Instead of trying to squeeze all you want into a smaller boat... well, you know.
Good luck with the search.
James comment makes good sense. You get more room, more of what you want in more usable space and the boat is designed for that use. Add the A-C there.
AND there is a great 25 just came up for sale here:
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=27545
The cross country transport can be a great road trip and will be cheaper than doing all that modification to a 22.
Harvey
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AND there is a great 25 just came up for sale here:
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=27545
The cross country transport can be a great road trip and will be cheaper than doing all that modification to a 22.
Harvey
SleepyC :moon
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A/C would help sleeping in the summer months down here. I don't need it during the day, with the windows and front hatch open, I get a good breeze so its cooler than being out in the sun like open boats are.
We camped on it last weekend for the last time this season, and wont attempt again until probably sometime in October. Without A/C you'd have to be very hardy to be able to sleep well in this humidity and heat we have in the summer. Now we'll use it as a day boat until summers over.
Would I like A/C? Sure, but I'd rather have my paddleboards strapped to the roof and I can't do both.
We camped on it last weekend for the last time this season, and wont attempt again until probably sometime in October. Without A/C you'd have to be very hardy to be able to sleep well in this humidity and heat we have in the summer. Now we'll use it as a day boat until summers over.
Would I like A/C? Sure, but I'd rather have my paddleboards strapped to the roof and I can't do both.
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We spend about 5 months a year on our CD25. We have a 5000 btu window ac that we stick in the front window when we need it for sleeping. Rooftop ones are great but I need the roof for the tender. There is a nice 25 at Wefings near East Point Florida with a Marine AC unit for sale.
We had a CD22 for some years and loved it After having a 25 with more room we wouldn’t go back unless we went back to weekend boating.
Everyone has different needs.....and my wife says this is what she needs. I’d be a fool to argue.
Tom
We had a CD22 for some years and loved it After having a 25 with more room we wouldn’t go back unless we went back to weekend boating.
Everyone has different needs.....and my wife says this is what she needs. I’d be a fool to argue.
Tom
We have used the $129 Arctic King AC unit on two 22's and two 25's. The Tom Cat had a 9200 BTU RV roof air. There are a number of choices. A few put in sea water cooled marine AC units. These take up a lot of room, and cannot be run when the boat is used as a camper on the road (as we use ours). The 5000 BTU unit can be run with a Honda EU 1000. The most recent boat (25) has some modification to the AC unit--handles on the sides, a carrying bag, and wooden runners on the bottom to hold it in place.
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Where do you mount it, Bob?thataway":2eo62fmc said:
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Yes, I was referring to the window unit. Thanks.thataway":1jpxvwpa said:
This is the album which a previous owner describes what he did
We have made some minor modifications by putting metal handles on each side of the AC unit. Also used pool noodles as protectors on any gel coat inside the cabin.
If any questions after viewing this, please contact me. I cannot take updated photos since we are over 2000 miles from the boat at this time.
The PO had a shade over the foredeck out of "Sunbrella". We made a waterproof one out of "Shelterite" which attaches under the eyebrow, and extends well over the for hatch attaching to the bow railings or deck fittings.--water tight, and rain has no chance of coming in.
We have made some minor modifications by putting metal handles on each side of the AC unit. Also used pool noodles as protectors on any gel coat inside the cabin.
If any questions after viewing this, please contact me. I cannot take updated photos since we are over 2000 miles from the boat at this time.
The PO had a shade over the foredeck out of "Sunbrella". We made a waterproof one out of "Shelterite" which attaches under the eyebrow, and extends well over the for hatch attaching to the bow railings or deck fittings.--water tight, and rain has no chance of coming in.
Don't know what model boat is in the pictures of the A/C installation. The windows seem to have a lot more rake than my 08 22 cruiser.
My installation seems simpler. In my case I made the same sort of runners on the bottom of the A/C unit using PVC lumber. The A/C pretty much fills the window. There is about 3/8" gap on the side at the bottom (the center window is a slight trapezoid) and about 1/2" at the top. I use a piece of split pipe insulation to seal the gap at the top and some cut foam on the sides. The gap at the bottom is about 1/8" and does need to be sealed. I connect a hose to the AC unit drain to run the condensate overboard.
I have to disconnect the strut for the window from the frame when I use the AC unit (not enough room for the AC unit and the strut to fit). However, this lets me use the strut as a prop to hold the window open. The propped open window also shields the AC from the rain.
I guess the installation depends on how far you push the AC unit through the window.
My installation seems simpler. In my case I made the same sort of runners on the bottom of the A/C unit using PVC lumber. The A/C pretty much fills the window. There is about 3/8" gap on the side at the bottom (the center window is a slight trapezoid) and about 1/2" at the top. I use a piece of split pipe insulation to seal the gap at the top and some cut foam on the sides. The gap at the bottom is about 1/8" and does need to be sealed. I connect a hose to the AC unit drain to run the condensate overboard.
I have to disconnect the strut for the window from the frame when I use the AC unit (not enough room for the AC unit and the strut to fit). However, this lets me use the strut as a prop to hold the window open. The propped open window also shields the AC from the rain.
I guess the installation depends on how far you push the AC unit through the window.
The photos in the album above are of my 2007 25. The "Rake' on the windows of the 25 and 22 appear to be about the same--I can measure when I return home.
What does vary is the size of the air conditioner. We had one on our 22's which allowed the AC to be put in the window with no modifications to the strut which holds the window open. At another time, we borrowed an air conditioner, which another C Brat was using on a 25, and it would not fit the window of the 22. We just ;put it in the door, and it worked well enough. (Canvas to close off the area above the door.).
As far as rain, the issue is often blown rain from the side or front--rather than straight down--also the waterproof canopy allows the "V" berth hatch to be opened with rain, and also keeps the sun off the foredeck and from shining into the V Berth hatch, creating a green house effect. We have had roller screens under the hatch on other boats--but the shade above is as effective. The down side is we cannot run the boat with that canopy in place. We have run the boat with the window air conditioner in place--it was a relatively short run of about 40 miles, on rivers, and we had "eyes" on both sides of the window unit.
If you want AC when underway--then the RV roof top, or a marine built in unit is the way to go.
What does vary is the size of the air conditioner. We had one on our 22's which allowed the AC to be put in the window with no modifications to the strut which holds the window open. At another time, we borrowed an air conditioner, which another C Brat was using on a 25, and it would not fit the window of the 22. We just ;put it in the door, and it worked well enough. (Canvas to close off the area above the door.).
As far as rain, the issue is often blown rain from the side or front--rather than straight down--also the waterproof canopy allows the "V" berth hatch to be opened with rain, and also keeps the sun off the foredeck and from shining into the V Berth hatch, creating a green house effect. We have had roller screens under the hatch on other boats--but the shade above is as effective. The down side is we cannot run the boat with that canopy in place. We have run the boat with the window air conditioner in place--it was a relatively short run of about 40 miles, on rivers, and we had "eyes" on both sides of the window unit.
If you want AC when underway--then the RV roof top, or a marine built in unit is the way to go.
We live right down the road from you, in Oak Island.
After 5 years of summer cruising from the Chesapeake down to the Keys, I wouldn’t be without a/c, but it depends how you plan to use your boat.
If you’re not planning on spending the night aboard, you can get away without it, but if you’re staying on the boat, it’s a must.
After 5 years of summer cruising from the Chesapeake down to the Keys, I wouldn’t be without a/c, but it depends how you plan to use your boat.
If you’re not planning on spending the night aboard, you can get away without it, but if you’re staying on the boat, it’s a must.