Les Lampman
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TyBoo":gbrjmrn7 said:
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Would you buy a C-Dory on sale?
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Da Nag,Da Nag":1g8wbed3 said:
You missed it. What I said was rather than update a 22' Cruiser with a lot of options. They're thinking was that they probably would never get their money back out of if they were to sell it. Plus no amount of money could make a 22 have the amenities of the Tug. The facts are they do have the money to spend not throw away as you put it. It was a shame C-Dory does not have a a boat to compete with the 27 foot tug. These people are planning a loop trip. If you have been on a 27 foot tug I'm sure you would have to agree given the choice long term cruising aboard a 27 Tug would be far more comfortable than either a decked out 22' or a 25'. I'm not sure about your aspirations of being a financial planner. Some people just have a lot more money to spend than you or I and that does not make them stupid. The real point is that C-Dory has nothing to compete with a 27 Tug. I for one am happy with our boat but it makes you wonder why the Tug people can do it and C-Dory can not.
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Les Lampman
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chimoii":7nptt3zb said:
That was just a friendly personal jab at Mike...he'll understand.
Will-C":13rivafn said:
I've been on a couple 27's, but only at the dock. Spent the night on one at Bremerton. I've been out on a 25SC. All were awesome, and I understand the desire - but at this point in my life, I'd actually be more comfortable on my 22. Particularly when solo cruising.
I reserve the right to change my mind, though...
Will-C":13rivafn said:
And, Ranger has nothing to compete with the boats made by C-Dory. They're not making anything you can tow behind a Subaru, nothing you can easily launch into 24" of water, nothing that can cruise at 14-16 knots with a reasonable fuel burn, nothing that has the stability or speed of a TomCat, and with the exception of one model they sell very few of - they sell nothing for less than $130K. Word has it, you also have to learn how to lift your pinky finger when sipping your Chardonay (yeah, yeah - low blow.)
I'm not suggesting C-Dory is perfect, by any means - but whatever shortcomings they do have, are not product related.
I wrote this on another thread . It falls under the category of different strokes for different folks. For those wanting more;
There will be some factory amenities and options you havent seen before .
For those wanting less [or that want to do it themselves] we will have a reasonably price base model in every size.
BTW 22s and 25s are still the biggest sellers.
"I think this demonstrates Triton Marine's and Wefings's shared vision that there is a place for every type of owner and feature level of C Dory . We are now embracing the best way to market and offer as much simplicity and/or well engineered Factory/Dealer installed options as a customer wishes . Listening to buyers and owners is what we want to do.From designed packages to a la carte orders ,we are interested in making customers comfortable with their purchase,their dealer, and equally importantly their manufacturer. There has not been a time in recent memory for me , that I have had this level of excitement as a C Dory dealer. The feed back is important , and we want as much as possible.We are all listening for positive and constructive input. I think that there are good, practical options in the future . Our new boats are in the molds . Expect some new things from the factory and Wefings .I will make an effort to get to more shows this year . We need the customer support to make it happen. "
Marc
There will be some factory amenities and options you havent seen before .
For those wanting less [or that want to do it themselves] we will have a reasonably price base model in every size.
BTW 22s and 25s are still the biggest sellers.
"I think this demonstrates Triton Marine's and Wefings's shared vision that there is a place for every type of owner and feature level of C Dory . We are now embracing the best way to market and offer as much simplicity and/or well engineered Factory/Dealer installed options as a customer wishes . Listening to buyers and owners is what we want to do.From designed packages to a la carte orders ,we are interested in making customers comfortable with their purchase,their dealer, and equally importantly their manufacturer. There has not been a time in recent memory for me , that I have had this level of excitement as a C Dory dealer. The feed back is important , and we want as much as possible.We are all listening for positive and constructive input. I think that there are good, practical options in the future . Our new boats are in the molds . Expect some new things from the factory and Wefings .I will make an effort to get to more shows this year . We need the customer support to make it happen. "
Marc
starcrafttom
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original question? No I would buy a 23 with a basic interior.
" there is not a c-dory that compares to a 27 tug" ???
Have you seen my boat? They built it once and should build it again. Then they would have a competitor for the tug. I have more room and storage then the tug, faster then the tug, weight less ( I think) the the tug. its a great boat. the only think I would do different to my 27 if it was being built to day is use the Cape Cruiser Hull design under it and add 4 to 6 inchs in width. It is a little tippy for its length. And yes I'm always asking Dave Thompson when they are going to design a 27 :wink: He just says "later"
" there is not a c-dory that compares to a 27 tug" ???
Have you seen my boat? They built it once and should build it again. Then they would have a competitor for the tug. I have more room and storage then the tug, faster then the tug, weight less ( I think) the the tug. its a great boat. the only think I would do different to my 27 if it was being built to day is use the Cape Cruiser Hull design under it and add 4 to 6 inchs in width. It is a little tippy for its length. And yes I'm always asking Dave Thompson when they are going to design a 27 :wink: He just says "later"
We have a Venture 23 we bought new this year and are very happy with it. Our dealer had it on order when we dropped in looking at a second hand 22. A little research on this site, a visit to Triton to see the boat in it's "rough" state and we decided to go for it. We have never seen another Venture 23 but ours does not have a liner but has a sprayed finish. Teak cabinet doors, teak spice rack, teak trim, stainless grab rails inside and topsides. It came with shore power, charger, wash down pump, anchor windlass, wipers, refrigerator, tilt wheel, convertible front seat (forward facing or dinette), butane stove, curtains for all the windows and a privacy curtain for the forward berth when using the porta potti. We also have trim tabs, and a swim grid with ladder.The dealer installed an Espar diesel heater with one of the vents at the forward windows which has proved great on a cold wet morning run. We had it rigged with a Yamaha 150.
Condensation has not been an issue even in May in Desolation Sound.
Condensation has not been an issue even in May in Desolation Sound.
C-Dory could do more to promote the Venture 26. Take one to a boat show would be a start. If they added a feature set of options like the Tug folks do they could be in the running. Selling some one a new boat for 70 k/ 100 + that drips condensation on folks while they sleep in the boat is something C-Dory needs to work on only my option here. With baby boomers retiring in record numbers and the middle class shrinking selling bare bones boats may not be the best marketing strategy. I'll only mention the Tugs because they seem to be doing ok in this economy. What people drink has not a lot to do with anything. Making boats that pulled by Subaru's is something the Tug people missed I agree, you win.
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What Shore
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All of this sounds exciting to me. It' s nice to see the folks at Triton starting to listen to everyones feedback. I've had my 25 just a little over a year & have really enjoyed it with few complaints. However I would like something with a little better finish on the interior ( options of course) And possibly a little bigger ,If Triton decides to do something like that it would be great. I'm content for now but do plan to do something different in the next 1-2 years & it would be terrible to go to the dark side (Tug). I do have to say I'm worried if Triton doesn"t step up on all of this along with advertising the future could get tough. I know advertising is expensive & try to do my part to promote our boats from talking to people @ the docks to sporting our C-dory T-shirts as do all of you . This is a valuable part of Tritons marketing but how many actually recieved the simple brochures we all asked for a while back , I know I didn"t . :sad
Chuckpacific
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I just got my letter from Matt at Kitsap in regard to the special offer on (in my case) the CD-25. He says Triton Marine will no longer support orders placed by Kitsap Marina.
That statement would seem to need some clarification, in light of the recent banter....
Although there is some crossover from the C Dory to the Tug--I believe that there is a different demographic buying the Ranger Tugs--especially the 27 and 29. These are folks who might have bought a Nordic Tug or other similar trawler a few years ago.
I would say look at the Ranger Tugs when they get to be 20 years old--and see if the interior is holding up like the utilitarian interior of the C Dory has done. Yes, there may be some condensation--but it is manageable--and there are some fairly easy solutions--such as the paints, making your own headliner etc. Da Nag pointed out so well the pluses of the C Dory. I don't know if I will get back into a "bigger" boat again or not. However as I think about the systems, and complexity and size of the tugs, I realize I would not go there, no matter how nice they look. I might go back to a C Dory 22--or the Marinaut. I don't want the complexity of an inboard diesel, the built in generator, the built in wine cooler (or refer) or built in AC, or the weight of trailering a larger boat.
Granted, the price of new boats can get out of line--and become unaffordable for those on a lower budget. Keep the upgrades as an option. More advertising/visibility is important.
Chuckpacific
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I scanned the letter but can't seem (technical issue) to put it anywhere others can see.
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No surprise there. From reading the replies by both, it seems there was some serious lack of communication on someone’s part. I take this as the Kitsap Edition no longer stands if C-Dory/Triton will not build boats for them.
jfflindhout
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It was mentioned earlier in this thread that this site is really isn't the appropriate forum for dealer/manufacturer matters and I agree completely. So hopefully this post will act as a thread killer. The gist of the situation with Kitsap is that they have been a solid supporter of the C-Dory line of boats, but like every business in the marine industry these days, they have to make decisions that are in their best interest. They felt it was not the right time to stock product and we felt it was necessary to have dealers stock product. I know that we both understand and respect the position of one another. I apologize that this whole thing created any confusion and I hope this post will put the issue to rest.