Where do you store your dinghy/tender motor?

Sarge,
We used that exact mount on our 25 and it worked great, until we added the canvas. The motor won't fit with the canvas. Now, where to store the dingy motor is an ongoing problem. If you come up with a good solution, I'd like to hear about it.
Lyle
 
Sarge

This won't be much help for you, but it sure worked for us. We have a small West Marine dingy made by Zodiac and was considering going with the new Torgueeda electric 2hp motor witch Iam very confident would have worked well and that motor folded up and could be stored about anywhere. Plans were to tow our new Mokai jet powered kayak and have the dingy ride on top as before. [photos of kayak can be seen in Yukon Chris's photo album] Ours is identical. On a unusually warm day for this country two weeks ago we tried out the Mokai with the c-dory at Massacre State Park on the Snake River in Idaho. The Mokai try out went so well we have decided to abandon our dingy for just the Mokai. Jo-Lee has a very bad shoulder so can't help me with mounting or unmounting the Mokai on land or water. Found I could fairly easily do it by myself on water or land. It rides up on top when towing c-dory on trailer and sometimes on water. Tows extremely well behind c-dory at speed or hip tied when slow. Also much easier to get in and out of from the cockpit than the rubber dingy. Best of all it beat all expectations with its performance on the water with just myself or with Jo-Lee and me. Some fairly strong rapids in this area on the Snake River.

Only real draw back was lack of room when Jo-Lee and I are both aboard. We would be doing some squeezing to pack groceries or much else. Have been to busy for photos but if anyones interested in setup will try to take some and then post them from next trip.

With our limited time the next month will be spent practicing our river running on some of the local streams.

Jay
 
Jay, your jet powered kayak sure looks cool and I'm sure I would love one if I ever tried one, but I have to move my wife, my 2 little boys and myself all in one trip. Can't leave either of the little guys alone either on shore or the boat. I need more room than the kayak offers.

Ron or Hank, would the 3.5 hp motor hang on the transome like a kicker? I see that Hank on his boat has a swim step so he put his on the side, but I don't have a kicker or a swim step.

Thanks,

-Sarge
 
I have the rail mount thingee too, but like Lyle says, it doesn't work with the camperback canvas on. On the Ketchikan trip, we just lay the little 2.5 hp Merc outboard down inside the dinghy which was on the roof of the boat. A bit awkward but it worked OK I guess. Like Lyle, I would be interested in a better solution...I guess another transom mounted bracket on the swim step side would work...
 
At the St. Croix Marine Website I stumbled onto a neat little mount that I may give a try. OUTBOARD_MOTOR_BRACKET.sized.jpg Transom_Table_1.sized.jpg
 

Attachments

  • OUTBOARD_MOTOR_BRACKET.sized.jpg
    OUTBOARD_MOTOR_BRACKET.sized.jpg
    93.7 KB · Views: 0
Hi Sarge,

Since you don't have a kicker (like us), check out our album... we use a 2.5 hp motor for our dinghy and have a motor mount on the transom. Works great, easy to use, easy to get at the motor to mount it up when we put the dinghy in the water. I do NOT carry the dinghy motor back there when we are on the road - too easy for someone to walk away with it. We toss it in the back of the pickup (another nice thing about 2 strokes: it doesn't really care how it lays). This solution works great with the camperback. HTH

Best wishes,
Jim B.
 
Check out the various albums--Thataway's has a picture of our rail mount.
I believe that one of the other 255's has a mount bolted to the aft part of the splash well. We used a kicker bracket on the CD 22.
 
Thanks Ron for the nice complement -

I'm pleased with the dingy outboard mount on Sea Skipper. I had planned on fabricating a bracket to mount the outboard in the same location, but found that the adjustable mount from Fulton (MB1050) would do the same job with the added bonus of being able to lower the motor to water level for easier attachment to the dingy. I don't like hanging too much weight on the stern, but the Honda 2 only weighs about 27# plus about 10# for the bracket installed. The biggest drawback to this location is potential damage from a less than perfect docking as the outside edge of the motor is only about a half foot from the port side. To keep the motor located inboard as much as possible, I cut the Fulton mount to conform to the motor well cutout and attach the motor to the inside edge of the mount. The curve in the transom was faired with Marinetex epoxy to keep the mount square with the flat portion of the transom.

A note on the 2hp Honda. This motor is air cooled and a bit noisy especially a full throttle. It starts with ease and will plane my 8' Avon Redstart dingy at about 8 knots if I carefully position my self in the center. I have a range of about 6 kn on a full tank. The Avon dingy has a slatted wood floor, weighs about 40#, is 10 years old and looks like new. This dingy rows especially well considering its size. To store the dingy, I pull it up over the bow railing, rest one edge on the skylight and flip it upside down on the cabin roof. Then rotate it 90 degrees and push it back under the arch until the motor bracket just overhangs the aft edge of the cabin roof.
 
Thought I would tell those who responded how I solved this issue....Lots of BOAT units! :cry:

I purchased a Torqeedo 801 Travel Electric Outboard from West Marine

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/st ... tId=274855

I tested it on my Mercury Inflatable 240R in the Edmonds, WA, marina and it did quite well. Even ventured out towards the pier a few times and it had plenty of power to push the inflatable with my son (5 years old) and I around at a respectable speed. After about an hour of use it still had 60% of its power left. I purchased 2 batteries, because it takes up to 12 hours to fully recharge a battery.

The motor itself folds and is stored in a dry sack, which fits nicely in the cabinet behind the dinette.

The entire unit, including one battery, weights 26 pounds. The battery can be removed, which is approx 1/2 the weight, so mounting the unit onto the dinghy is very easy.

Time will tell.

-Sarge
 
Sarge":p87gkxe6 said:
I purchased a Torqeedo 801 Travel Electric Outboard from West Marine
Click to expand...

Interesting -- I had also decided to go with the Torqueedo 801 because after considering how I was going to use it with my Alaska Series dinghy, I don't plan to take it far from the mother ship. Waiting for my dink to arrive from China before buying the motor.

I'm glad you provided the info on the 12-hour recharge. Do you know how much current iit draws for those 12 hours? Where did you find the tech info on the Torqueedo website?

Warren
 
Mac,

DrJohn71a, in an earlier post stated:

I contacted the company about charging it while cruising and they said a simple, plug-in inverter would charge the Torqeedo lithium battery easilly while you cruised.

John
Click to expand...

It would need to be able to produce 800 watts, since that appears to be what it needs to charge it....if I understand their specifications correctly.

-Sarge
 
Sarge":3kxnraa2 said:
It would need to be able to produce 800 watts, since that appears to be what it needs to charge it....if I understand their specifications correctly.
Click to expand...

800 watts for 12 hours. Would someone who understands batteries, inverters and generators better than I do help me with some calculations if I set my boat up like Dreamer, with 2 Lifeline 8d AGM house batteries of 550 Amp hrs., and and Outback 2000 watt inverter.

If I use a 1000 W generator how long would I have to run it to recharge the house batteries after using them to recharge the Torqueedo (800 watts)? 12 hours? If so then maybe I should reconsider getting a gas motor.

Thanks,
Warren
 
Now that I've got my dinghy, where oh where shall I put her motor. On a 22 there wouldn't seem to be too many options. But, I found a spot. No new holes and it drains into the well. EV42.sized.jpgEV44.sized.jpg She sits atop my "Tackle Table" on her Fulton Aux motor-mount. The table itself is simply held in place by gravity and secured with teak cleats(5200).
 

Attachments

  • EV42.sized.jpg
    EV42.sized.jpg
    112.3 KB · Views: 0
I am not sure about the 800 watts for the charger. but there are several possibilities. "The Travel 801’s input power is 800 watts. Rated power is 29.6 volts. Final charge is 33.6 volts." (from the brochure) So, you should be able to rig up solar cells in series to provide a charging circuit. (three 12 volt solar panels with a 36 volt regulator)

Next, the inverter/charger: If you need 800 watts for 12 hours, this is a lot of power! and I question the amount, based on the following: 800 watts at 12 volts is about 67 amps--take into account ineffeciency of the inverter you are close to 70 amps for 12 hours--or a total of 840 amps. (I could have just used the 800 watts/direct conversion for 800 amps)--so if you have a 550 amp hour battery bank--which the Dreamer bank is--you would have run it down over three times (figuring 50% discharge max--or 275 amps effective available power). An outboard alternator puts out 35 to 45 amps (average) when running at full power, but that is only half of the 70 amps you will need. So this does not seem like a real effecient way of charging these motor's batteries--assuming it really needs 800 watts! So basically if it needs 800 watts for 12 hours it requires about 3x the two 8D battery banks....that is why I doubt the current draw.

Consider that the capacity of the battery is 800 watts @ 30 volts or 26 amps--that is perhaps more reasonable for a lithium ion battery. (the equivilant to about a 70 amp 12 volt battery--which is like a U1 or garden tractor)--and I suspect this is closer to the power. If this is the case, the power for a charger is signivicantly less. Some one with one of these chargers has to measure how much power it uses, or write the company.
I suspect that the charger will be more in the way of several amps at 110 volts or 10 to 20 amps for an inverter--and this is managable.

Yes, EU 1000 will produce 900 watts, but that would be running at full throttle, not eco throttle.

I would have to assume that the best use would be to leave with a fully charged battery (and perhaps a spare) and then recharge when you overnight at a dock (or use the solar cells).
 
thataway":20silndr said:
Some one with one of these chargers has to measure how much power it uses, or write the company.
Click to expand...

i wrote to Torqueedo customer service and received no reply. That's one of the reasons I decided not to get one even though I like the idea of going green (I acknowledge that recharging the batteries with petrol-driven solutions is not totally green).

Warren
 
Back
Top