VHF Channel

Scot Reynolds

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Hello everyone!

While I was on the water with my family this weekend we saw 4 C-Dory boats out and about. We waved, but sometimes people were too far away and it would be nice to chat on the VHF. I imagine most boaters monitor channel 16 like I do, but I was wondering if anyone has proposed a VHF channel that would be most frequently monitored by C-Dory owners as a back-up to 16? It might be nice to have a common channel to go to when you see a C-Dory on the water to try to connect.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Scot
 
Scot,

A lot of C-Brats have sort of evolved a practice of dual watching 68 / 16, we frequently hail each other on 68. But of course everyone should be monitoring 16 as well for the Coast Guard as well as other boats. But if you don't get a response on 16, you might try 68.

Pat


Scot Reynolds":1s3qxz1j said:
Hello everyone!

While I was on the water with my family this weekend we saw 4 C-Dory boats out and about. We waved, but sometimes people were too far away and it would be nice to chat on the VHF. I imagine most boaters monitor channel 16 like I do, but I was wondering if anyone has proposed a VHF channel that would be most frequently monitored by C-Dory owners as a back-up to 16? It might be nice to have a common channel to go to when you see a C-Dory on the water to try to connect.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Scot
 
Thanks Pat and Roger for your quick responses. I will make a habit of monitoring ch. 68 in addition to 16. It's always fun to see a C-Dory on the water and even better to make a connection with them.

Have fun boating!

Scot
 
By law if the boat is equipt with a Marine VHF radio, channel 16 must be monitered at all times. see: FCC 47 CFR §§ 80.148, 80.310, NTIA Manual 8.2.29.6.c(2)(e), ITU RR 31.17, 33.18, AP13 §25.2

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/watch.htm

In many parts of the country there are other channels which commercial or charter boats frequent, and there is very good reason to moniter these radio channels also. For example channel 13 is the tug channel. In the Seattle area(including the the VTS is on channel 5A or channel 14 Although a boat under 65 feet is exempt from the VTS, "Passive listening of the appropriate VTS frequency for your area is highly encouraged! ".

I always moniter VTS when I am in the Puget Sound area--"The traffic lane network in the Puget Sound begins at buoy J -"Juliet" north of Cape Flattery and continues all the way to Tacoma's buoy TC -"Tango Charlie" with Rosario Strait, and Haro Strait bound branches stemming from buoy SA -"Sierra Alpha."

The problem with monitering only one radio with a scan--which has a priority on 16, is that you can miss an improtant call during the scan. For example--there is a section called the "Rock pile" on the Atlantic ICW, all vessels are to give securitee on channel 16 (and 13 for commercial). I gave Securitee calls on both channel 16 and 13, and a tug was giveing a call on 13 when I was calling on 16 and visa versa--so we both missed each others call, and met in the middle. Since I was the burdened vessel, Ihad to back a 62 foot motor sailor about 100 yards, until I could put the boat on the bank, and let the tug and barge inch by.

The point is that it is important to moniter the safety channels. I find that it is very important for me to have a second radio dedicated to channel 16--then you can use another radio for 68, 69, commerical traffic etc.

In Scott's case, I suspect that for some reason that the other C Dories had their radios turned down or on some other frequency. I would suggest that at a niminum that a hand held vhf--which every boat should be carrying-- be used for the second radio to either moniter channel 16 full time or to be used to communicate on another frequency. In an area as crowded as the Puget Sound, I suspect that there is not much "chatting" going on with the Marine VHF radio. We try and keep our traffic on ship to ship channels pertintant to boating and brief--ie. "Wetneck, what is your position and are you catching any fish?". " Thataway, we are at 87.57.09, 29.58.56 and the bite is on for red snapper". Wetneck--roger, we will be at your position in 20 minutes Thataway clear and monitering 16 and 68".
 
Bob,

Great post! I will have to add 5A, 13 and 14 to my scans as I didn't even know about the tug traffic.

However your thoughts on the "chatter" found on VHF is not even close in the Puget Sound. People chat on 68 almost the way they chat on the phone or CB. Sometimes WAY too much. 68 and 69 are almost constantly busy with chatter anymore during a hot fishing season.

My guess is that Scott couldn't reach the other C-Dories as they simply had their radios OFF. It always amazes me that people I fish with never turn on their radios. And when they do they don't monitor 16.
 
Gary,
I'll have to admit I have never turned my radio on 68 or 69 when in the Pudget Sound area--all of my "Chatting" was done on the 3 ham nets I was on daily. What I was showing is what should be done on the VHF.
 
Dr. Bob,

Your post about the Rockpile brought back memories, bad ones.

I had a similar experience happen in the same spot and remember that back then that the really rocky spots were all marked - with old license plates on sticks!

Nick
"Valkyrie"
 
The Mapquest waterproof chartbooks list the channels you need to monitor in the Puget Sound area, etc., as well as the line where you change monitoring channel as you reach the San Juans area.

We have 3 portable VHFs and keep one on each of the required commercial channels for safety, since, as Dr. Bob points out, a single radio will either be on 16 OR the other channel(s) and the call declarations are often brief and could be missed.

Just read the maps' small print...

Here around KS, OK, MO, AR, TX, we exchange info on 68 for locals and go to more remote, mutually agreed upon channels for longer chat.

John
 
To add to the original topic of being able to get a hold of other brats on the water. I still think we should get a group MMSI #, then those who want can program it into their VHF's, if capable. It will automatically tune others with the # programmed in to a station of the calling boats choice. I know my vhf has a spot for a personal MMSI and a group one. I am really surprised this hasn't been done yet with all the tech savy people here.

Sark
 
Maybe I don't understand correctly, but isn't 16 good for making contact, then move to another channel. It's becoming our practice to keep a handheld available, Use the main radio on 16, if contact is made on that then the handheld is used for lowpower, off 16 comunication.

I agree that a group call on MMSI might be good.

Harvey
Sleepy C :moon
 
I've been meaning to learn more about DSC capabilities, other than for sending distress signals. This seems like a good opportunity.

A little poking around and I learned that this has been covered here already:
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=3285
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=5408&start=45

And it appears that we have a Group MMSI number, courtesy of Don (Sneaks) aboard Jenny B: 036697831.

My question: Has anyone played around with this yet? Anybody with a boat at Edmonds want to try it out?
 
I remember when this came up a couple years ago. So we did get a group number.

This needs to be put somewhere where we can find it. I'll load it in my radio tonight so I don't forget it. Of course I will have to read the instructions on how to do it. Now if I can just get another person in PWS to do it we'll see if it works.

Tom
 
Here in the Cook Inlet out of Deep Creek & Anchor Point VHF is commonly used as normal, as well as CB 33 for fishing jabber.
I put my VHF on scan 16 and scan all the other common channels used. I also put my CB on scan. Sometimes I get way too much "noise" in the cabin.
 
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