Sea Wolf":356fu7i5 said:Interesting to see how Brunswick's stock has done in the past year, probably reflecting the recreational industry's downturn from limited discretionary income:
(Brunswick owns Sea Ray, Boston Whaler, Bayliner, Maxum, Mercury/Mercruiser, Mastercraft, Bertram, Albermarle, and many others.)
Brunswick Corp
Joe. :disgust
I was shorting both BC (Brunswick) and WGO (Winnebago) through stock short sales and put options last year an did quite well. Both will soon be ripe again for another short trade, possibly as early as next Friday when the negative GDP figures are released: a shocker is expected...
dave deem":356fu7i5 said:Hello,
As a lurker with intention to buy in 09 here's my take on things. C-Dory's line of boats being light and fuel efficient are about as close as you can get to the car comparison of a Toyota Prius. Their resale value is unparalled in the industry. They hold up very well provided the previous owners did nothing real stupid to them. There are boats built in the 80's still roaming around running strong. They have a terrific owners group and most of the C-Dory owners actually use their boats as seen everywhere on this site. The dealers are supportive and willing to help most anyone as long as the don't get too obnoxious. So a Bayliner Brunswick thing comarison I hope is just whacky. As far as the economy goes if you want to get cash spent quick increase welfare checks. The money will be better spent then giving it to the failed banks as they probably won't have enough to buy jet aircraft. So I'm thinking instead of depleting any of my meager reserve retirement money I would be helping the country out by finiancing the boat and if the world does come to and end I can either let it be covered with volcanic ash or just default on the loan and move to Mexico or Ecuador if things get real bad. I just wondered if I ought to go with surge brakes or electric over hydraulic brakes on the trailer before the world comes to an end?
D.D.
Niche Market: you make a very good point about the C-Dory boats being economical to run and comparable to the Toyota Prius in that regard: however, it's not necessarily a beneficial comparison at present, as sales of the Prius are now down 45%, or 10% more than the average percentage drop for regular cars, probably due to cheaper gasoline...
http://www.hybridcarblog.com/2009/01/pr ... ember.html
It's also clearly not comparable to the Bayliner, which loses its resale value very quickly, due to the poor quality of construction. However, just like other better boat brands, I expect resale prices of used C-Dory boats to come down substantially, as vendors realize that they're no longer finding buyers at the higher asking prices: do you plan to buy a new or used boat?...
If I decide to buy a monohull, the Cape Cruiser/Venture 23 is currently at the top of my list, but the catamaran bug has bitten again, except that I can't find anything that meet my requirements, so I may end up building a one-off...
Also, C-Dory will find it easier than Brunswick to downsize to match reduced demand, but the fixed overheads, such as lease costs of manufacturing premises, boat shows, etc... will remain essentially the same...
Last time a check was given to stimulate spending, it was found that only 15% of that money actually got spent, so it won't happen again any time soon...