"Tundra's" Last Stand

Wonder how many other mfrs won't be able to meet the new standards?

I just bought a 12 pack of 60 w incandescent light bulbs on sale at Lowes for less than the cost of one new energy efficient bulb. :mrgreen:

Other than that we're pretty "Green"...

Charlie
 
It is more complicated than just that. The Tundra is a very old platform in need of a makeover. If it sold well, which it doesn't, it would be worth meeting the requirement. I'm not saying it is a bad truck as I don't think it is, but if Toyota isn't making money on them, and they really are not, they are going to dump it. If you are truck shopping, one can do better than the long in the tooth Tundra for sure. That's not to say long in the tooth trucks are bad (I have a number of them), but I wouldn't intentionally go out and buy one brand new.
 
It's my opinion Tundra was never taken seriously as it tried to complete in the super duty market. The big three already had a firm foothold with generations of loyal followers. I also believe Toyota will also fail in it's attempt to complete in the full size truck market, they should have kept the Tacoma small or introduced a small pickup to fill that market void.
 
I have no idea how Tundras sell in comparison to the full-sized American trucks, but I do see a lot of them in the Kenai and Homer areas. I own one myself, and it is by far the best truck I've ever had. Bought it new in 2008, and it still drives like the day I bought it. Also, I don't think that the Tundra is considered a "heavy duty" truck, along the lines of an F250, etc. It's much more similar to a half-ton truck. That said, mine tows great (it does have the 5.7), although the largest thing I tow is my 22' Cruiser. If they do actually decide to stop producing them with the 5.7 engine, I'd probably buy another one while they're still available.
 
Loved my last tundra,extremely reliable. My hope for the future is they build something in between the tacoma and tundra size,and find a new market niche. :thup built to tow a 22 of course.
 
Just a comment on the Tundra. My son has one and we used it to go to Yellowstone and back, pulling a travel trailer. Great truck, comfortable, good mileage with a V-6.

But with the V-8, it is marginal for pulling the Journey On, which requires about 9000 lbs. So it competes with the 1/2 ton trucks, and I have a Ford F250.

It's a business decision for Toyota.

Boris
 
I tow my Tomcat with my Tundra. Once I added air bags to stiffen up the rear suspension, it's fine for the purpose. Plenty or acceleration (evening pulling a 10k lb load uphill) and the braking is good. In my mind, the Tundra is more like a 3/4 ton than a half ton but that's just my opinion.
 
Roger,

And well you should tow a Tomcat with your Tundra. I just checked the 2014 specs, and with a V-8, it's rated for 10, 700 lbs. Last I checked was when they cam out, and I though I remembered ( how's that for equivocating?) that it was down around 8000 lbs.

Boris
 
I had a new tundra that was the last before the new body style. Loved the truck. Saved my life when it flipped over while going for steelhead on icy roads and my 15 foot fishing boat landed on top of the overturned truck
 
rogerbum":1u1a6a9w said:
I tow my Tomcat with my Tundra. Once I added air bags to stiffen up the rear suspension, it's fine for the purpose. Plenty or acceleration (evening pulling a 10k lb load uphill) and the braking is good. In my mind, the Tundra is more like a 3/4 ton than a half ton but that's just my opinion.

I have foolishly been looking at the new chevy 2500 and it will tow very close to 18000 pounds....Why are they so stinking expensive???? It doesn't take long for the diesel truck to be 50-60 thousand bucks with options. Sure makes me appreciate my good old and paid for 1978 F-250 gas hog tow beast......easy to work on and nice to drive.....what the hell I am thinking even looking for.....I like it for the same reasons you guys like your tundras - dependable, capable (at least enough), and paid for!
 
If Toyota was ever to put a fair size diesel in the Tundra (rumored every year) it would sell like hotcakes.
Overseas the diesel Hilux -which is basically a Tacoma- is the truck of choice everywhere; for hunters, farmers and terrorists. For fun look up "how to kill a Toyota" on you tube.
Full disclosure.. I pull my Cape Cruiser with a Tundra, and love it.
 
I guess these CAFE standards are causing all the builders to think MPG's and it's causing products to come out half baked, like the Eco boost engine problems I read about in the forums. I think if You can get a good low mileage engine that's maybe a bit of a gas guzzler, it's still better than taking your expensive new truck back to the dealer to chase gremlins in the way it runs. :idea:
 
journey on":20g8jtud said:
Roger,

And well you should tow a Tomcat with your Tundra. I just checked the 2014 specs, and with a V-8, it's rated for 10, 700 lbs. Last I checked was when they cam out, and I though I remembered ( how's that for equivocating?) that it was down around 8000 lbs.

Boris
With the tow package, mine was rated for 10,300. With the aluminum trailer, I'm a little under that. But most of the time, we tow the Tomcat with my buddy's Silverado 2500 diesel. I don't do a lot of towing. Typically, once as year to EQ marine for service, once out to Neah Bay and back and maybe 1 or 2 other trips.
 
I recently completed an extended and exhaustive tow vehicle search and ended up deciding on a nice used guzzler (1991 Landcruiser) which I knew would be capable of towing our new boat, purchased for under $6K. I literally looked at everything even remotely capable of the job, over a 4-5 month period. We wanted to only have 2 total family vehicles and ultimately decided to share the economical one wherever possible and limit the miles on the tow vehicle to less than 6,000 miles per year: towing and occasional driving when we need to go separate directions. So far we've only needed to start the landcrusier about twice a week and are on target to stay under 6,000/year. Fuel economy is only 12MPG in mixed city driving, which stings, but keeps me disciplined not to drive it frivolously. I sold my 05 2WD Tacoma 4cyl. to finance this switch, and could not justify the additional price of a 4WD V6 Tacoma (my first choice) or V8 Tundra (second choice) as a replacement/tow vehicle. In an earlier towing thread, someone on this site suggested getting an old Suburban or 3/4 ton pickup, keeping it just for towing, and not worrying about the fuel economy. That's basically what we ended up doing. This wouldn't work as well for a family that needed to commute with 2 separate cars each day, as the fuel cost would become onerous. Two others that came to the top of my list are the early 2,000's Toyota Sequoia (basically an enclosed Tundra but don't hold their value nearly as well), and Ford Expedition (basically an enclosed F150, devalue quickly, and always many to choose from). I did learn that 4WD pickup trucks of ANY make hold their value better than any other type of vehicle, based on a used/new price ratio. Interesting fact: you can pick up a nice used early 2,000's Landcruiser, which cost over $60K new (and is as refined, durable, reliable and capable as they come), for under $15K with very little effort. Happy towing to all! Mike.
 
Best vehicle I ever owned was a South African spec 1999 Toyota land cruiser 105 series diesel (the 105 series was never marketed in the US. The US had the 100 series which was very similar - but no diesel option). The diesel was economical, and the chassis was bomb proof. I had to sell it a couple years ago because I was moving to a country that wouldn't accept right hand drive, and I've missed it ever since - even after I replaced it with a US spec 80 series which was a real gas hog with it's petrol engine. Toyota really knows how to build a good, durable and comfortable vehicle, and if they fitted the Tundra with a good diesel it would be a winner.
 
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