TSUNAMI - WARNING

starcrafttom":1by5lwlb said:
oh and there are morons on surf boards. :roll:
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Life is good in Crescent City.

Yesterday at the expected time of the tsunami, people were parked at beach front park waiting to see the wave. I thought what morons. Of all the places to hang, that area would get it the strongest impact of a tsunami. I was watching from the safety? of my office about a quarter mile away and around 16 feet above sea level with keys to fast car in hand.

So todays plan besides working on taxes is to slip in a surf session. The tides are wild changes today which will cause currents at certain areas. Any way regardless of the effects of tidal forces I am still going to try to surf. Yesterday at the announced time of tsunami warning I was not going to surf. The difference is I am not really planning on riding a tsunami just waves.

And then there's the old saying

Bra "YA REALLY MISSED IT, SHOUDA BEEN HERE YESTERDAY!!!
 
Who decided the word tsunami needed that T?
What is it's purpose?
Words like that bug the shi out of me....and I could have used that t.
Do send surfing reports. Have always wanted to attempt that...without the sharks.

Bill/Halcyon: Enjoyed the chat and laughs yesterday! Hope to see yall sometime in the spring. Thanks for starting this link. Glad it appears all is OK.


Byrdman
 
Byrdman":3hdshl7b said:
Who decided the word tsunami needed that T?
What is it's purpose?
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It's Japanese; "ts" is very common in the language and is often found in proper nouns/names. Think "Mitsubishi" and Tsukamoto is a common last name.
From Wikipedia:
The term tsunami comes from the Japanese, meaning "harbor" (tsu, 津) and "wave" (nami, 波).
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Bill, is there a rule of thumb to calculate how far a tsunami will travel each hour after an earthquake? For example, what is the distance to Hawaii and how long would it take to get there from Chile, etc.

Thanks.
Warren
 
Byrdman":3dgk1p3w said:
Words like that bug the shi out of me....and I could have used that t.
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Knowing you well as I do, good buddy...I couldn't help but read that with Larry the Cable Guy's voice doing the delivery.
 
Don't really care if its spelled with a t or an s. Either way don't like having to look up a Japanese definition of to explain the meaning of a not so uncommon event that here in the English language was so accurately described as "Tidal Wave". Still even if saying tsunami. I'm thinking tidal wave.

Much prefer the Wikipedia definition of Tidal Wave:

TIDAL WAVE
From Wikipedia,
The term tidal wave may refer to:

A tidal bore, which is a large movement of water formed by the funneling of the incoming tide into a river or narrow bay
A tidal surge, or storm surge, which can cause waves that breach flood defences
A tsunami, which is a surge in the tide caused by a seismic event, as opposed to the regular tides caused by gravitational gradients. The term tsunami is conventional in scientific writing.

Think this just may be a generational and educational thing. Had this discussion with my Geologist son and of course he was quite content with the term tsunami being it is a conventional scientific term, but I have noticed he still uses buffalo when describing those animals the Yellowstone National Park Service calls Bison.

Jay
 
In my own defence, I have nothing against surfers or surfing in general. If a bunch of fisherman where trolling close to the beach during a tsunami warning I would have Said " look stupid fisherman" even if they were in c-dorys.

During the the 96 floods in northern california I was watching the river trying to crest the bridge above big bar. The waves were up to the bridge deck, which is 60 ft above normal river level!! A cop had to spend the whole day sitting there watching because two groups of morons . The people that kept moving the BRIDGE CLOSED sign out of the road to drive across the bridge and the line, 20 of them,of kayakers :disgust

They would have been dead in a minute. if the wave would have hit yesterday those surfers would have been dead because they are morons. I did not say anyone should spot them. and yes its better for the gene pool.
 
Tom, remember, there is just no curing stupid! And people will always be stupid. The ones that upset me are the people who get in trouble due to their stupidity, and then scream to be helped or rescued, thus putting others (1st responders) at risk too.

During the last freeze we had here (in December) some idiot was out on a frozen pond with his two sons. Now we usually don't get cold enough, long enough to freeze ponds, so anyone's "experience" is VERY limited.

When I ordered them off the ice, he became confrontational saying I had "no right to order him" & his kids [off the ice]. I told him I did since he was putting other lives at risk, which he of course disputed. IDIOT. :roll: I told him if he returned to the ice I would charge him with child endangerment, which got his attention. :idea:

This pond was across the street from a full time fire station. I went across the street and told the ff's what had happened; needless to say they were not thrilled w/ his attitude.

Good lesson to teach your kids. :? :roll:
 
your right you cant cure stupid. It use to cure itself. Now if you had drove by and seen that guy on the ice and did nothing and he and his spawn had died the line of lawyers suing you and the department would be knee deep.
 
I have a problem with authority being exorcised over me or others when they are trying to protect us from ourselves even though I have at different times been the authority myself. I'm drawing fireman retirement now and have graduated from a law enforcement academy and worked as a reserve deputy sheriff. Didn't like the part of enforcing societies rules involving protecting people from themselves then and still rebel whenever possible against the same directed at me now. Anytime a single person or a group of like minded people want to challenge the odds and consequences of their personal actions I believe its their fundamental right, dumb or not to do so. Others disagreement on this right is one of the main reasons I've spent the majority of my life doing things alone away from them or with like minded people who want to determine the risk and consequences ourselves.

Tom, I bet when you know the fish are there and biting and the weathers iffy you don't want someone else making the decision whether you take your boat out and if you decided to there could even be a dock gocker or two saying "look at that stupid fisherman" :lol: .

Localboy, your example is good for stupid, but I'm sure that in the raising of my three boys and the things we did if in the city could have been construed as child endangerment too. Just another good reason to have raised them where I did.

Jay
 
Jay, I must confess to agreeing with you to a certain degree and in certain instances. I strongly believe in personal freedom and disagree with gov't "baby-sitting" me; they don't have the right. Once they can control me, my freedom and liberty are GONE.

That said, in my line of work (and working as I do in a VERY LIBERAL area), as my mom so famously told us, I'm "damned if I do and damned if I don't".

Like Tom said, if I had not acted and the boys perished under the ice, mom would go on TV, "blame" me and my dept for NOT acting to protect her kids and then the lawyers would get involved. So I act and then her husband argues that I don't have the right to do that either.

It's a no win for me and anyone in my profession (and Dave S's).
 
Localboy, no surprise here that you do agree and I too have degrees and instances that have to be judged. Also agree your in a no win profession and its a darn good thing you and good ones like you and Dave S choose to stay. I may lean way toward a Libertarian point of view, but recognize with out some rules and enforcement anarchy would reign.

Jay
 
Several years ago we were involved in attempting to evacuate a residential community that was in the early stages of being flooded out. We drove around in trucks fording low spots in the roadway to transport the residents out. Repeatedly, the majority refused our offers of assistance. Finally, when the water was lapping at their doorsteps they wanted out. Unfortunately, high clearance vehicles could no longer access the area, so we transported folks out two at a time on hovercrafts. The total operation initially would have taken about 1 1/2 hours and instead encompassed the majority of the morning and afternoon, not to mention the unnecessary exposure of the civilians and rescuers to hazardous flotsam rushing in our pathway.

Previously, I have been involved in similar circumstances and will I'm sure be involved in them again. It happens frequently around the country, be it flooding, wildland fires, ice covered lakes, etc. etc.

That is why we spend a considerable amount of time and money training for the "what ifs". (Additionally, it makes the diversity of my profession interesting and exciting). Love what I do!
 
DaveS":h5xz6ke5 said:
Several years ago we were involved in attempting to evacuate a residential community that was in the early stages of being flooded out. We drove around in trucks fording low spots in the roadway to transport the residents out. Repeatedly, the majority refused our offers of assistance. Finally, when the water was lapping at their doorsteps they wanted out. Unfortunately, high clearance vehicles could no longer access the area, so we transported folks out two at a time on hovercrafts. The total operation initially would have taken about 1 1/2 hours and instead encompassed the majority of the morning and afternoon, not to mention the unnecessary exposure of the civilians and rescuers to hazardous flotsam rushing in our pathway.
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Granite Falls area? My in-laws live on the banks of the Stilly river and were flooded out a few yrs ago. My brother-in-law needed to be rescued w/ the hover-craft; he was asleep at the "crack of dawn" (It's nice to be unemployed :roll:) when the flood hit.
 
jay I completely agree with you and if you look really close at my post you will NOT see me saying that someone should go get them or stop them. I just pointed out the truth " they are morons" for thinking they can surf a tidal wave. I don't care if they die and don't think anyone should stop them. I just don't think any time or money should be spent saving them. And yes for all the naysayers that goes for fisherman that do really stupid thing. I'm not saying "don't save surfers" I am saying don't save tidal wave surfers.

Same goes for mountain climbers. If you go climbing in the middle of the winter and the weather gets bad you are on you are on your own. Now I have spent a lot of time in the sierras back country , in the summer, and I always went knowing that I was on my own.
 
Tom, read this somewhere recently and it fits me perfectly "most all of what I say or write is fully substantiated only by my own opinion" so don't take me take to serious. Overall, I think, our thoughts on self endangerment would take a fine hair to separate. I perhaps overreact to judgements made by others about these type actions whether directed at the person or the action (to me they are one in the same-how else can a person or situation be judged other than by their and the actions) because I have been to many times on the receiving end of the comments and feel I wouldn't have made it these 61 years if my actions had really been that dumb or stupid. Sometimes to one its living life to its full and to another its just plain stupid.

Jay
 
Life is full of ..well..choices...........
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localboy":38slxfdi said:
Is it just me or does that look like Dave S, mustache and all? :wink: :lol:
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The only reason that I don't have much hair on my head is because I've returned to a military style haircut. HOWEVER, the rest of the cartoon does ring true for me and I seldom sleep a full night..so I guess it could "look" like me.....LOL.... :roll:

(I just want it to be noted however, that Carol does look MUCH YOUNGER! :thup )
 
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