Pat Anderson
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What Bill said!
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Thisaway
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1TUBERIDER
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Boat trip!
Thisway chould make it around the country. Every port you hit, a c brat would share a boating experience with you to the next port. We would go thatway until you get completely down the west end,across the south side and up the east side to Maine. OHhh the memories.
Glad to hear your back on the water.
Jeff
Thisway chould make it around the country. Every port you hit, a c brat would share a boating experience with you to the next port. We would go thatway until you get completely down the west end,across the south side and up the east side to Maine. OHhh the memories.
Glad to hear your back on the water.
Jeff
Comfortably Numb
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Congrats, Dr. Bob! It made me smile to read this story...really good news.
If you all make a trip to Wisconsin (we bought the Comfortably Numb in Superior, WI), you are invited to stop and rest here in Greenville, Illinois...we are 50 miles east of St. Louis, right off I-70. We might just make a handy stop for you...a port in every storm, you know.
If you all make a trip to Wisconsin (we bought the Comfortably Numb in Superior, WI), you are invited to stop and rest here in Greenville, Illinois...we are 50 miles east of St. Louis, right off I-70. We might just make a handy stop for you...a port in every storm, you know.
Jack in Alaska
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Dr. Bob,
It is great to read that you are once again involved with a C-Dory and are planning on getting it wet in many places.
Good for you and I wish you well in the adventure.
Keep us all informed of your remodeling and trips taken etc.
I would like to meet you one day.
Regards,
Jack in Alaska
It is great to read that you are once again involved with a C-Dory and are planning on getting it wet in many places.
Good for you and I wish you well in the adventure.
Keep us all informed of your remodeling and trips taken etc.
I would like to meet you one day.
Regards,
Jack in Alaska
I was living in fear C-Brats might lose your contribution if you did not have a C-Dory. Now you do...again...great! I also have the carb 90 on a 22, so I will be looking forward to any additional insights you come up with. Actually mine runs so well that I can't justify any upgrade to an injected one with only a little over 200 hours. It always starts, always runs.
I bought an induction cooktop for C-Cruz and tried it at home. Worked so well, I could not take it to the boat so I bought another. Since I paid a little over $80 from Amazon it was hardly a big decision. Mine is a Max Burton. It automatically starts at half power (power setting 5 out of 10.) At half power it boils a pot of water faster than the home gas range. Frying eggs requires a few seconds at 5 and then a reduction to 2 or 3. They are done in a minute. Every temperature change is instantaneous. Way better temp control than even a gas range. No open flames, no hot surfaces. You can place a piece of paper between the pan the "burner" and the paper will only get warm. Also has auto shut off if the pan overheats it also has a built in timer.
In port it runs on PG&E but I have tried it with my Yamaha 2000 generator (same specs as Honda 2000) and it runs with no problem. Love induction cooking and now the $80 Burton has pretty much replaced the home range. Of course at sea you do have to fire up the generator or have an inverter/battery. Since it is so fast, for most things an inverter and a group 27 or 31 battery might just be fine.
Ron
I bought an induction cooktop for C-Cruz and tried it at home. Worked so well, I could not take it to the boat so I bought another. Since I paid a little over $80 from Amazon it was hardly a big decision. Mine is a Max Burton. It automatically starts at half power (power setting 5 out of 10.) At half power it boils a pot of water faster than the home gas range. Frying eggs requires a few seconds at 5 and then a reduction to 2 or 3. They are done in a minute. Every temperature change is instantaneous. Way better temp control than even a gas range. No open flames, no hot surfaces. You can place a piece of paper between the pan the "burner" and the paper will only get warm. Also has auto shut off if the pan overheats it also has a built in timer.
In port it runs on PG&E but I have tried it with my Yamaha 2000 generator (same specs as Honda 2000) and it runs with no problem. Love induction cooking and now the $80 Burton has pretty much replaced the home range. Of course at sea you do have to fire up the generator or have an inverter/battery. Since it is so fast, for most things an inverter and a group 27 or 31 battery might just be fine.
Ron
Well, I did make it home yesterday...about 12 hours of driving and over 500 miles. The boat made a great power napping venue along the way when I got too tired several times.
However, there was a gathering for our "extended family (boaters)" about 30 minutes after I arrived....A shower, change of clothes--and Marie managed to get me to the gathering where I collapsed.
Angel was all paws and teeth when she saw me! Even spent part of the night cuddled in daddy's arms....She also had to check out ever mm of my luggage, where there were scents of Charlie's 4 cats and "Andy" the dog....
I'll get the boat parked today on our gravel pad, and probably take some more recovery time.
Thanks for the information on the induction cooking! Sounds like a great way to go!
However, there was a gathering for our "extended family (boaters)" about 30 minutes after I arrived....A shower, change of clothes--and Marie managed to get me to the gathering where I collapsed.
Angel was all paws and teeth when she saw me! Even spent part of the night cuddled in daddy's arms....She also had to check out ever mm of my luggage, where there were scents of Charlie's 4 cats and "Andy" the dog....
I'll get the boat parked today on our gravel pad, and probably take some more recovery time.
Thanks for the information on the induction cooking! Sounds like a great way to go!
"Thisaway" (some question about the name--"Witchaway" was proposed by the Admiral, who reminded me that since I got a "new" boat, she gets a new car--and had been looking in my absence!), went to the beauty shop (Shipyard). It turned out that the folks I use had no new jobs scheduled before Thanksgiving, and Thisaway will get a good compound, wax, bottom paint and any minor gel coat dings will be repaired.
We took everything out of the interior--and when the boat is back in the yard, there will be a scrubbing of the interior. This is one of the beauties of the "Classic" C Dory--turn on the hose!
Bob got an extra 4 hours of "catch up sleep" this afternoon.
Thanks for all of the kind words.
We took everything out of the interior--and when the boat is back in the yard, there will be a scrubbing of the interior. This is one of the beauties of the "Classic" C Dory--turn on the hose!
Bob got an extra 4 hours of "catch up sleep" this afternoon.
Thanks for all of the kind words.
We pulled the 150 feet or so of Proof Coil chain (does not make a lot of sense to have put that in the boat--not only because of weight--but most windlasses in the size for this boat use 1/4" HT chain, not Proof Coil. The tongue weight is still excessive. We will have to see what it is with fuel tanks full. (they are aft of the axle).
In the shipyard, the several years accumulation of mold and dirt was scrubbed off, and the buffing started. It looks as if the boat will buff out to like new shine and then several coats of wax.
There was a coat of Petit Premium bottom paint (hard). We had that sanded off, and assessed the condition of the "epoxy barrier coat". The selling dealer cheated the buyer...you could easily spot where the boat was on blocks and jack stands, since there was no epoxy on those areas! Also it looks like only one coat of epoxy--generally we recommend about 30 mils or 3 coats... So since we have the bottom paint fully off, we will put on the appropriate coats of bottom paint--pretending that there was none present before.
There had been a Uniden digital depth sounder (the gauge is in the console, the seller did not know what happened to the transducer). So there were 4 extra holes in the transom (plus the two holding the Garmin fish finder transducer in place. Good news--no moisture in the transom core, on drilling out these holes. They will be filled, and then I will put on a block of 3/4" thick Starboard. This will be screwed to the transom, with 5200. The back of the Starboard is undercut with a dovetail bit in a Dremel tool, to give "tooth" for the 5200. Then any future transducers will be screwed into the Starboard block--and no chance of moisture into the transom. We checked the trim tab screws--and they seemed to be into solid glass at the bottom of the transom. (We suspect that the construction is the same as the 2003 25' CDory, where the plywood did not go all of the way to the balsa core--and there is solid glass where they meet.) So the sample screw was put back in place with 5200.
We will put 3 coats of epoxy and then 3 coats of black Petit "Vivid" bottom paint. It seems to work well in our area--and the boat will be mostly trailer or lift kept.
In the shipyard, the several years accumulation of mold and dirt was scrubbed off, and the buffing started. It looks as if the boat will buff out to like new shine and then several coats of wax.
There was a coat of Petit Premium bottom paint (hard). We had that sanded off, and assessed the condition of the "epoxy barrier coat". The selling dealer cheated the buyer...you could easily spot where the boat was on blocks and jack stands, since there was no epoxy on those areas! Also it looks like only one coat of epoxy--generally we recommend about 30 mils or 3 coats... So since we have the bottom paint fully off, we will put on the appropriate coats of bottom paint--pretending that there was none present before.
There had been a Uniden digital depth sounder (the gauge is in the console, the seller did not know what happened to the transducer). So there were 4 extra holes in the transom (plus the two holding the Garmin fish finder transducer in place. Good news--no moisture in the transom core, on drilling out these holes. They will be filled, and then I will put on a block of 3/4" thick Starboard. This will be screwed to the transom, with 5200. The back of the Starboard is undercut with a dovetail bit in a Dremel tool, to give "tooth" for the 5200. Then any future transducers will be screwed into the Starboard block--and no chance of moisture into the transom. We checked the trim tab screws--and they seemed to be into solid glass at the bottom of the transom. (We suspect that the construction is the same as the 2003 25' CDory, where the plywood did not go all of the way to the balsa core--and there is solid glass where they meet.) So the sample screw was put back in place with 5200.
We will put 3 coats of epoxy and then 3 coats of black Petit "Vivid" bottom paint. It seems to work well in our area--and the boat will be mostly trailer or lift kept.
Did you inspect the drain tube, and do you plan on doing anything to it like remove, undercut, epoxy, install new tube?
Also, if you're doing the dremel undercut procedure on holes on a vertical surface, how do you ensure epoxy fills the void, i.e. no air trapped in the top of the void?
Sorry for getting a little off topic!
Also, if you're doing the dremel undercut procedure on holes on a vertical surface, how do you ensure epoxy fills the void, i.e. no air trapped in the top of the void?
Sorry for getting a little off topic!
Question--have we pulled the drain tube, and will we inspect it? No, the boat was trailer kept, with no evidence that water pooled in the aft section.
There is no evidence of moisture--so we have not pulled this tube.
We are not doing undercutting in the holes, because we are not going back into these same holes. We are oversize drilling the holes. With proper thickening, (peanut butter thickness) and packing into the holes, there is not a problem with a void.
There is no evidence of moisture--so we have not pulled this tube.
We are not doing undercutting in the holes, because we are not going back into these same holes. We are oversize drilling the holes. With proper thickening, (peanut butter thickness) and packing into the holes, there is not a problem with a void.
Montana Kev
New member
Bob, nice to see as a C-Dory owner again. Looking forward to seeing some photos of your projects with Thisaway.
Cheers,
Kevin
Cheers,
Kevin
Updates: The first photo is "before" at Captain Charlie's:
Then when "Thisaway" arrives at her new home--at least for now on the trailer while I do some work on her. The first 10 days were at the shipyard where the old bottom paint was removed, two more coats of barrier paint were added, and 3 coats of new bottom paint. The entire boat was compounded and heavy wax applied and buffed, and a few minor cosmetic gel coat items were repaired. She looks like a new boat--even no numbers or name.
I had cautioned the workers about the C Dory logo decal--and my friends doing the work who own the "shop" had cautioned the employee--but he hit it with the buffer. As a result a local shop made a new set of C Decals:
Today we put an old RV cover we had over the boat to protect from leaves etc, and I ordered a new full boat mooring cover from Angola Canvas. $813 in Sunbrella and it should be here in 10 to 12 days! Seems like a bargain when compared to local canvas lofts (For precise fit of a camper canvas, I would still go with the local).
The next items are going to be re-routing the depth sounder cable thru the transom below the splash well, and putting in the Starboard for the transducer. Fortunately one of my friends had a nice piece of Starboard he didn't need. I will photo these projects.
After that we will put in the second radio: Standard Horizon GX 2100 (I know that the 2150 is easier to interface the GPS with, but I had purchased the 2100 before the 2150 came out..)
I am moving the mount for the Garmin GPS 440S to allow me to the a mount for a Garmin GPS 541 (which I use on the Caracal). The 440 screen will be divided between sounder and the large area chart. The 541 screen will be close range GPS and AIS. So far we are not opting for Radar, and I have ordered a FLIR First Mate MS224, which makes more sense for us running in our bay where there may be crab pots, debris, or even people in the water, rather than other boats (although we see these occasionally at night). I can envision other uses, including security, finding the black dog at night, hot terminals and other wiring or engine problems, checking for temperature differentials and improving insulation around the house etc. If were were in other areas; Radar would make more sense.
Then we will probably insulate the walls and ceiling of the V berth area, with a vinyl cover over the foam. We have decided not to do an enlargement of the door to the forward cabin, since the boat does not have the sliding "Barber" chair.
Hand rails for the top outer aft and forward have been purchased and will be installed. Gear Hammocks will hang from the ceiling over the V Bert for clothing and gear storage. Probably a set of rod racks will go in the ceiling over the dinette, and an extra LED light with red and white LED's will go over the helm. The anchor light has already been changed out to an LED.
We have not decided to add a 3rd battery and inverter/charger or use a Honda Generator for the stove. I tend to lean toward the Honda, since it can also run the small air conditioner which will work thru the front window.
Then when "Thisaway" arrives at her new home--at least for now on the trailer while I do some work on her. The first 10 days were at the shipyard where the old bottom paint was removed, two more coats of barrier paint were added, and 3 coats of new bottom paint. The entire boat was compounded and heavy wax applied and buffed, and a few minor cosmetic gel coat items were repaired. She looks like a new boat--even no numbers or name.
I had cautioned the workers about the C Dory logo decal--and my friends doing the work who own the "shop" had cautioned the employee--but he hit it with the buffer. As a result a local shop made a new set of C Decals:
Today we put an old RV cover we had over the boat to protect from leaves etc, and I ordered a new full boat mooring cover from Angola Canvas. $813 in Sunbrella and it should be here in 10 to 12 days! Seems like a bargain when compared to local canvas lofts (For precise fit of a camper canvas, I would still go with the local).
The next items are going to be re-routing the depth sounder cable thru the transom below the splash well, and putting in the Starboard for the transducer. Fortunately one of my friends had a nice piece of Starboard he didn't need. I will photo these projects.
After that we will put in the second radio: Standard Horizon GX 2100 (I know that the 2150 is easier to interface the GPS with, but I had purchased the 2100 before the 2150 came out..)
I am moving the mount for the Garmin GPS 440S to allow me to the a mount for a Garmin GPS 541 (which I use on the Caracal). The 440 screen will be divided between sounder and the large area chart. The 541 screen will be close range GPS and AIS. So far we are not opting for Radar, and I have ordered a FLIR First Mate MS224, which makes more sense for us running in our bay where there may be crab pots, debris, or even people in the water, rather than other boats (although we see these occasionally at night). I can envision other uses, including security, finding the black dog at night, hot terminals and other wiring or engine problems, checking for temperature differentials and improving insulation around the house etc. If were were in other areas; Radar would make more sense.
Then we will probably insulate the walls and ceiling of the V berth area, with a vinyl cover over the foam. We have decided not to do an enlargement of the door to the forward cabin, since the boat does not have the sliding "Barber" chair.
Hand rails for the top outer aft and forward have been purchased and will be installed. Gear Hammocks will hang from the ceiling over the V Bert for clothing and gear storage. Probably a set of rod racks will go in the ceiling over the dinette, and an extra LED light with red and white LED's will go over the helm. The anchor light has already been changed out to an LED.
We have not decided to add a 3rd battery and inverter/charger or use a Honda Generator for the stove. I tend to lean toward the Honda, since it can also run the small air conditioner which will work thru the front window.
Hi Bob
I am really sorry I did not get to come to the Southern Gathering but I just could not make it. I was really planning on attending because one has as many answers as Doctor Bob. One day soon I will get the chance to make a trip to your area.
Anyway
I am still not comfortable not having a kicker and have made that my next priority but I still want to pay close attention to your improvements.
I have done some work on my boat but most of it has been sorta mechanical that I understand. I added a windlass and a larger battery charger for a third battery and those projects have worked well.
Things I am not sure about I have put off until I either find the best advice or the monies to do them correctly.
I have a really bad scratch down one side at the green trim about ten feet long. I was wondering what it cost you for the waxing and buffing and the name of the place that did it for you.
I have also been trying to put a rod rack over the dinette but did not want to put holes in the roof so I would appreciate pictures of what you plan to do there with your boat.
I am really sorry I did not get to come to the Southern Gathering but I just could not make it. I was really planning on attending because one has as many answers as Doctor Bob. One day soon I will get the chance to make a trip to your area.
Anyway
I am still not comfortable not having a kicker and have made that my next priority but I still want to pay close attention to your improvements.
I have done some work on my boat but most of it has been sorta mechanical that I understand. I added a windlass and a larger battery charger for a third battery and those projects have worked well.
Things I am not sure about I have put off until I either find the best advice or the monies to do them correctly.
I have a really bad scratch down one side at the green trim about ten feet long. I was wondering what it cost you for the waxing and buffing and the name of the place that did it for you.
I have also been trying to put a rod rack over the dinette but did not want to put holes in the roof so I would appreciate pictures of what you plan to do there with your boat.