Thinking about a 1993 22' Cruiser for sale.

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cajuncanoe

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Hi there, C-Brats! I have been a member for a while, almost bought a 25 Cruiser in 2009, but purchased a home/acreage in the Ozarks instead. My home is 3 miles from a marina on Lake Bull Shoals, just across the AR/MO state line, in Missouri. After getting settled in at our new home, my wife and I are back to thinking about finding a boat.

There is a 1993 CD 22 Cruiser for sale in Durango, Colorado that has caught my eye. It is being offered by the original owner, and is said to be in very nice condition, hull and equipment. The power is a set of Yamaha Pro 50s, 2 stroke motors with tilt and trim. Not a whole lot of equipment upgrades, but does include a trailer. The asking price is $18,750, and I was wondering how some of you would feel about a boat of that year, equipped with twin 2 strokes. Does this price bear serious consideration?

Any responses will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Kelvin
 
Well my first question is can you use two strokes in your area? and what is the star rating on those motors? If its a two stroke but has three stars then you can use it almost anywhere even in california ( as far as I know) .

Other then that I think it would be a great match up of boat and motor. With out pictures I cant really give a opinion other then that.

As for the price, if everything is in good condition and working fine then thats a great price IMHO.

Do they have stripe bass in that lake??
 
Thanks, Thomas, for the quick reply. I forgot to mention in my OP that the boat is listed on the C-Brats site, and there are a few pictures. I did speak to the owner, and it does sound like a good deal, if everything is as described. As for the use of 2 strokes locally, or in Missouri/Arkansas, I haven't checked regulatory guides. But, there are many, many 2 strokes in use. I would prefer 4 stroke engines, and I know that most of the C-Brats are powered with 4 strokes. The boat looks good in the pics, and I am considering taking a look in person. Being in the area that I am in, and trying to fly directly into Durango, produces some costly air travel fees. I could fly into Colorado Springs, rent a car, and drive to Durango cheaper than flying Durango.

The '93 CD is approaching 20 yrs old, but I know that there are a lot of CDs even older out there, still being enjoyed fully. My wife and I will be in New England for a Navy reunion in a few weeks, and I may get a chance to see some C-Dorys out there, if I don't check out the one in Durango. Of course, there may not be any CDs for sale in New England, and if so, may be much more expensive. I was a little surprised that no one on the Brats site had already posted an inquiry about the 22 Cruiser, as most "deals" get a lot of attention pretty quickly.

Anyway, the engines aside, the boat does seem reasonably priced. I just need to decide if I want to spend the time and money to check it out, as I am sure that we will spend a few dollars on our upcoming trip to Rhode Island.
 
Oh, and Thomas, they do have striped bass in the lake. Plus, Walleye, Small mouth and Large mouth Bass, Brown Trout, and a lot more species. The Bass Masters were here a few months ago (televised), and there were rave reviews by the fisherman in the tournament. Another lake, Lake Norfolk, is 15 miles East of us, and is the Home of BassCat boats. They host a huge tourney every year. Ranger, BassCat, and several other boats are manufactured with 50-100 miles of our home. Table Rock Lake/Branson, MO. is about 70 miles West. Yes, we do love living here!
 
Hey Kelvin, there's a nice TOLAND for sale a lot closer to you if you'd like to start a little smaller and work up.

Welcome to the site, hope you find a great boat!

Btw, what reunion in Newport? I'm OCS from there, 1964....retired in 1991.

Charlie
 
Hi Charlie! I believe that we may have "C-Brat met" a few years back, when I was still living in Baton Rouge. I do remember something about you having some trouble deciding what to do with yourself, so you hung around the Navy docks for a little while! :-D Charlie, my wife, Joan, and I will be attending a reunion for the USS L.Y.Spear (AS-36), a submarine tender. The reunion is being held at the Sheraton in Warwick, near the PVD airport. We are scheduled to tour the shipyard in Quincy where the ship was constructed, and also tour Battleship Cove, the Sub Base at Groton, and some other area naval points of interest.

And, yes, that Toland in St. Louis is much closer, has much more electronics, and other equipment. I may try to check on it in a few days, if it is still available. I really want a 25 Cruiser, but there are projects to be done at the new property (shops, storage buildings, maybe a small observatory) that will limit the money spent on our first C-Dory.
 
starcrafttom":2k1tdp40 said:
I miss fishing for strippers in Ca. Wish we had them here but I will just have to make do with salmon, ling, and halibuts.
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Tom, we do have them here. Have you tried trolling in front of Deja Vu with a $100 bill lure?
 
No problem with a 1993, as long as the deck and hull check out. Someone should sound these areas to be sure the core is good. I would be more concerned with the 2 strokes. How many hours? All fresh water, or has there been salt water with corrosion? Have a mechanic check out the engines.

If the tires are more than 5 or 6 years old, they need to be replaced.

The price is right.
 
Thanks, Bob. Yes, the hull and cabin are just several areas of the boat that would need close inspection. Don't know what resources are close to Durango, marine related, but if I get a chance to see the boat, I will certainly want to check out many aspects of the systems installed. The boat/engines are said to have about 400 hrs on them, mostly freshwater. The owner did make one, or more trips to British Columbia, I believe. The boat is kept indoors, don't know if it was always the case. I have noticed that most of the other 22 Cruisers listed for sale are priced 10-20K dollars more, depending on age and location, so I was curious about the pricing of this '93 CD if all was good on the condition of the craft. Sounds like it may be a pretty good deal, for myself, or someone looking for an older, less expensive entry into the C-Dory family. Thanks, again, to everyone who has replied. And, if you have some "can't miss" places to see in New England for our trip next month, please let me hear about them.
 
I recently bought at 1993 CD 22 in February. The hull was in good shape and just needed a good cleaning. The motor on the other hand crapped out within a few days of buying it. Looking back, having to repower may have been the best thing that could have happened (despite the huge impact on the pocketbook).

I have put way over 200 hours on the motor in 6 months. I have crossed the channel to Catalina over 20 times and plan on chasing Tuna 50+ miles off shore this coming weekend. I would never have had the confidence in the old motor to do half of what we have done so far.

Plus, with the new Evinrude 2 stroke, I dont have to take it in for maintenance until 300 hours.

So, my advice... find an older boat with a sound hull and good options (electronics, radar arch, etc) and slap a new motor on that thing.

Good Luck
Tim
C-Pelican
 
Tim owns my "old" C Pelican. When I sold this boat to Jeff, I discounted it because of the age of the motor. Unfortunately it failed for Tim, yet Jeff, who purchased it from me had many hundreds of hours on that engine, which was over 10 years old and I believe had over 500 hours on it when I purchased it.

The Yahama 50 is a good engine, and if it checks out, with the history of 400 hours, and mostly fresh water, it cod easily be good for another 400 hours. I am amazed at how many pre 1990 motors I see out there! Still running and doing well.....
 
Thanks C-Pelican and Thataway, great advice on some things to consider about my first C-Dory purchase. There appears to be limited local marine resources in Durango that I may need to help check out the CD 22 Cruiser. A friend of mine in Gulf Shores, AL. is a marine surveyor, and usually works with large yachts. But, he also gave me some tips, and has offered to lend me a moisture meter to check the hull, should I decide to travel to Durango. So, I just need to get off the proverbial pot, determine the financial and logistical requirements needed to view the boat, and head towards the Rockies! If the boat is still available, and I make the trip out West, I will surely report on what transpires.
 
I bought my '94 22 cruiser in 2007 and have LOVED the boat with zero problems in hull/deck. The 2 stroke on the other had, lost a bearing on my way back from Victoria to San Juan Island in the second season. rather than spend the money to repair that I bought a new Yamaha 90. Aside from the cost (about $10k after all was said and done) the boat has run flawlessly for the past four seasons.

The old 2 stroke was a 70 hp -- and seemed a bit underpowered (or poor compression maybe as it was original to the boat). The new 90 is great -- always starts 1st time (I mean ALWAYS) -- which was a shock to me. Great power, easy to service, great reliability. Same story as Tim.

I wouldn't hesitate to buy an older boat, albeit with some due diligence. Just be aware of the future potential for mechanical problems. But, for me, it allowed the purchase of a nice older boat at an affordable price-point, and the engine purchase 18 months later was easier to swallow.

Good luck!
 
Hi Kelvin and Joan,
In case you don't know about it there is a market research tool on the site under forums that shows past ads and sales of c-dorys. I think it can be very helpful in assessing the market value of a prospective boat.
I like 4 strokes because of the quietness, efficiency and low polluiton. I bought a 92 Dory (Nexus, not C-Dory) with a 92 Honda 45. The boat is a bit underpowered and I as a result have to settle for a cruise of 12 knots or so when I am heavily loaded, but the engine has performed very well over the past 7 years. I've put about 300 hours on it and it has not failed yet. Only routine maintenence. I bought and installed a Tohatsu 8 as a backup and it too has been very good. I guess that since you have twin engines you'd have a backup if one went out so you probably would have confidence to go places you wouldn't want to go with a single older 2 stroke. If you had to put a new engine in it you'd be up to $30,000 or so in the boat, but I guess if the hull is good and you're going to use it a lot that would be OK.
Good luck. If you decide against this one, there will probably be another one available before too long.

STeve
 
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