The tipping point

rogerbum":38a2ceei said:
AK Angler":38a2ceei said:
I dismiss the entire premise upon which the global warming alarmists have built their argument. Anybody that thinks that a couple hundred years of humanity's industrialization of the planet matters AT ALL to the planet's 'health', has no idea how insignificant that humanity really is, and has way too big of an ego to have an honest conversation about it. In the big picture, nothing that humanity could possibly do to this planet matters one whit. At some point, the earth will be swallowed by the sun, and this argument will finally be silenced. And, as obnoxious as many of these alarmists are, I can only pray that that day comes soon...

Until then, can we get back to talking about boats?
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Your premise seems to be that we are so insignificant, we can't change the health of the earth. But somehow (even a couple hundred years ago) we managed to ... We've also managed to ... Without artificial production, there wouldn't be ... With DDT we did severe damage to... Of course, I could go on an on with other example ... I'd say the evidence is overwhelming ...

... eventually we recognized the problem and changed some of our ways. Maybe the same will happen with CO2. But I'm willing to bet that there were some bison hunters who held onto the belief that human activity couldn't possibly affect bison levels for a very, very long time.
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Roger, based on your previous post, I knew you would be touting a bunch of examples to show just how bad we are, and how much damage we are doing to the planet. Let me ask you this... What would the planet be like today if we had actually killed off all the bison, cod, salmon, and eagles that you purport that we so nobly saved? Would the planet somehow be worse off? How do you know? And if the planet would have somehow been hurt by these extinctions, is it also somehow dying because there no longer exists mastodon, saber-toothed cats, or woolly mammoth? Is there some global crisis over the extinction of the California Grizzly Bear, Eastern Elk, or the Gull Island Vole?

You see, regardless of the cause of global cooling ... sorry, I meant global warming ... whoops, I really meant global climate change ... this whole 'THE PLANET IS GOING TO DIE IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING' call to arms should ring hollow in the ears of anybody that's actually taken the time to question the effect of our extremely limited involvement here. On a global scale, we are quite simply irrelevant to anything but ourselves. And that makes for one huge case of egotism. So, if you want to have that discussion, we can talk. Otherwise, well... I have better things to do with my time than trying to yell over the din of anthropogenic global warming alarmists.

But, for now, I have to finish loading the boat so I can leave for a week-long hunting trip in Prince William Sound. You know... burn up some fossil fuel in search of delicious venison on the hoof. Might even try to scrounge up a halibut or two while I'm out there. And, if the sky falls while I'm gone, I'll certainly apologize to all the Chicken Little's that I've summarily dismissed in the past. Of course, such a gesture will not likely be reciprocated if the sky doesn't actually fall during that time... go figure.
 
Awww ...Unintended consequences, I didn't anticipate the additional, massive, increase in speed when I had the boat repowered, forcing me to have to upgrade my electronics.

did I mention I still have a pair of sweet honda 40's complete with controls for sale on consignment at Sportcraft?
 
What did you repower with Ken? We are kicking around the idea of upgrading from our carbureted 99 BF75 Honda with 1700 hrs. It still runs great though.

Boater health care coverage is related to boating isn't it. Just kidding!
 
I went with a pair of Suzuki 50's. I looked at all of the different engine makes and the Zukies seemed to offer the best value, the 50's where about $1000 less than 40 hp hondas.

The hondas where running good but the economy has been good for us the last few years and I thought it would be a good time to update. Fuel injection is sure a nice feature...almost double the alternator output is handy too. I'm itching to see how the fuel injected engines perform at Lake Powell, the hondas seemed to be a little doggy at elevation.
 
B~C":1somau7b said:
I went with a pair of Suzuki 50's. I looked at all of the different engine makes and the Zukies seemed to offer the best value, the 50's where about $1000 less than 40 hp hondas.

The hondas where running good but the economy has been good for us the last few years and I thought it would be a good time to update. Fuel injection is sure a nice feature...almost double the alternator output is handy too. I'm itching to see how the fuel injected engines perform at Lake Powell, the hondas seemed to be a little doggy at elevation.
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what is the fuel economy difference on the twin 40s vs the twin 50s? how much faster are you scootin'?
 
had the old gal up to 70mph ...but it was on the single axle trailer. On the water, I backed out of it at about 32mph.. The 40's, when you mashed the throttle it would take off pretty good and slowly wind it's way up to the upper 20 mph range. When you mash the throttles on the 50's...instant response....the boat almost jumps out of the water and you're scooting right along.
I'll still cruise about 20mph with my twin engine, carbon spewing, seahawk loving vessel

The fuel burn rate- to early to really tell if there is much difference, I expect it to be better with the EFI.
 
Ken, what props are you running on your Suzukis? I have twin Suzuki 50's as well, but haven't seen 32 MPH with them as yet. We just got the boat late this year and have a whopping 20 hours on the outboards, but so far so good. One thing I've noticed so far is that the fuel economy is great.
 
I don't know what they put on for props, I'll take a look tomorrow. I've been running the boat very light, about 5 gallons of gas in each tank and not much other stuff. I'm not up to the 20 hour mark yet...that first couple of break in hours almost killed me.

That's good to hear you're getting good economy, do you still have that new boat smell?
 
It does still have the new boat smell, but it's fading fast. We were fortunate that our first trip on the boat was a 3 day trip, so we were able to run through the entire break-in procedure. A couple of halibut trips after that went well, as far as the engines are concerned.
 
B~C":enasv1on said:
had the old gal up to 70mph ...but it was on the single axle trailer. On the water, I backed out of it at about 32mph.. The 40's, when you mashed the throttle it would take off pretty good and slowly wind it's way up to the upper 20 mph range. When you mash the throttles on the 50's...instant response....the boat almost jumps out of the water and you're scooting right along.
I'll still cruise about 20mph with my twin engine, carbon spewing, seahawk loving vessel

The fuel burn rate- to early to really tell if there is much difference, I expect it to be better with the EFI.
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haha, good stuff. with my 90 I top out at 24ish, but conditions have to be juuuussst right to hit that, normally its closer to 20. fuel economy is around 4.5 give or take with conditions and whether I'm doing 14knots or 23knots. although my boat is always heavily loaded with fishing gear and fishing buddy(s).
 
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