Seeking feedback on price
- Thread starter Kingmann
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Everything depends on condition and you really need to look at boats, motors, and trailers in person to evaluate fair price. Last spring I looked at a 1991 22' cruiser with a 2015 Yamaha 90 with under 100 hours, with everything listed as "like new" on craigslist and described as such on the phone by the seller, and asking price was in the same range, which I felt was reasonable. But, when I saw it all in person the boat and trailer needed so much work I couldn't even bring myself to make a low ball offer, in that case even 20k would have been too much in my mind.
-Mike
-Mike
PaulNBriannaLynn
New member
Its a good starting point, but a lot depends on condition of the boat. The year isn't as important in these post 1988 boats, little has changed. If its lived its life in a garage and has good finish that's a plus. How its outfitted, does it have a wallas stove or some sort of interior heat? Camperback or canvas? Year of outboards as listed above. What condition is the wiring of the boat, original?
If everything is original to 1991, the motors, the electronics, etc. it's behind the times. Not a terrible thing, but take into account updating electronics could cost a couple grand. New engines would push this boat into what you could pick up a much newer boat with newer everything. 1000 hrs isn't a deal breaker but if they're 1991 Hondas with 25 years in the saltwater... you get the idea.
Take a look at the for sale archives on this site of sold boats, to get an idea of asking prices historically. That will help a lot I think, especially once you've really looked over your boat in question.
If everything is original to 1991, the motors, the electronics, etc. it's behind the times. Not a terrible thing, but take into account updating electronics could cost a couple grand. New engines would push this boat into what you could pick up a much newer boat with newer everything. 1000 hrs isn't a deal breaker but if they're 1991 Hondas with 25 years in the saltwater... you get the idea.
Take a look at the for sale archives on this site of sold boats, to get an idea of asking prices historically. That will help a lot I think, especially once you've really looked over your boat in question.
South of Heaven
New member
Kingman: C Dories hold their price very well BUT I would say that $27k is a bit steep for a '91 with older engines and electronics. Are the engines 1991 as well?? Because I'm basing my valuation on the motors being 25 years old.
Can you share a for sale ad link with us? There is a good chance that someone here knows the boat in question.
Can you share a for sale ad link with us? There is a good chance that someone here knows the boat in question.
Kingman, the answers you have here are good info. Condition is the prime factor. The 2 most common things that are hardest on a boat are poor storage practices and non-use. You could find a 25 year old boat with 100 hours on it. Even if that one was stored indoors, it may not have been used in years and could have been parked without battery or fuel care, and you will have at best a huge hassle to fix or a huge $$$$ for repair to damaged components.
I take a bit of an issue with:
"If everything is original to 1991, the motors, the electronics, etc. it's behind the times. Not a terrible thing, but take into account updating electronics could cost a couple grand. New engines would push this boat into what you could pick up a much newer boat with newer everything. 1000 hrs isn't a deal breaker but if they're 1991 Hondas with 25 years in the saltwater... you get the idea.
Being "behind the times" is not a problem, if all is still functional, and it is not a safety issue. If the radar works, and you can stay between the shores and miss the rocks and find the other boats in the fog, OK. You don't have to be able to find a toothpick at 1000 yards. If the sounder gives you the depth under the boat, you can match that to depth on the chart as use it to know where you are over the bottom, confirming the GPS positioning. Yes, there are technology advances, but those are additions to, not requirements for, unless, again, it is a safety issue.
"25 years in salt water," again depends on the care. A salt water engine that is properly flushed, rinsed and protected is not a problem, but even a fresh water engine that has not been maintained would be questionable for reliable service.
If I were looking at a boat of that age, I would most likely hire a marine survey (with someone who is not un-acquainted with C-Dory and proficient with outboard powered vessels), and also have a competent marine mechanic do an evaluation on the outboards. The few hundred that will cost will be an investment in your future sanity and safety.
Know that well taken care of C-Dorys hold their value very well, and if that boat was owned by a C-BRAT, there is good probability you can find history here on this site.
Enjoy the search, and bringing home the prize.
Harvey
SleepyC :moon
I take a bit of an issue with:
"If everything is original to 1991, the motors, the electronics, etc. it's behind the times. Not a terrible thing, but take into account updating electronics could cost a couple grand. New engines would push this boat into what you could pick up a much newer boat with newer everything. 1000 hrs isn't a deal breaker but if they're 1991 Hondas with 25 years in the saltwater... you get the idea.
Being "behind the times" is not a problem, if all is still functional, and it is not a safety issue. If the radar works, and you can stay between the shores and miss the rocks and find the other boats in the fog, OK. You don't have to be able to find a toothpick at 1000 yards. If the sounder gives you the depth under the boat, you can match that to depth on the chart as use it to know where you are over the bottom, confirming the GPS positioning. Yes, there are technology advances, but those are additions to, not requirements for, unless, again, it is a safety issue.
"25 years in salt water," again depends on the care. A salt water engine that is properly flushed, rinsed and protected is not a problem, but even a fresh water engine that has not been maintained would be questionable for reliable service.
If I were looking at a boat of that age, I would most likely hire a marine survey (with someone who is not un-acquainted with C-Dory and proficient with outboard powered vessels), and also have a competent marine mechanic do an evaluation on the outboards. The few hundred that will cost will be an investment in your future sanity and safety.
Know that well taken care of C-Dorys hold their value very well, and if that boat was owned by a C-BRAT, there is good probability you can find history here on this site.
Enjoy the search, and bringing home the prize.
Harvey
SleepyC :moon
T.R. Bauer
New member
I think it better be a cherry for $27,000 if everything is basically 1991.
I owned a 1993 C Dory 22, and have followed its ownership, selling price and upgrades thru the years. The boat was maintained in good condition, but used frequently by all of the owners. The boat new was $25,000. I paid $25,000. The motor had been upgraded once before I bought it, and I put new electronics on in the 2003 era. Since then the boat has another new motor, New electronics, except the radar, and multiple other upgrades, and the last selling price was in the $25,000 range. But that was a highly upgraded, and well kept boat with a several year old motor.
A 1991 C Dory 22, pretty well loaded, with a "new" 90 HP 4 stroke and kicker, sold for a little under $24,000 recently....
I think 27K, unless all canvas, in good shape, without a Wallas stove, and with older Electronics is a little steep, but not way out of the ball park. I know of mid 2000 era boats selling for the low 30's, with lower hours in good condition.
My son bought a 1996 25, and the electronics were vintage but working. We didn't upgrade the Radar, but new 9" Chart plotter/fishfinder for about $700.
A 1991 C Dory 22, pretty well loaded, with a "new" 90 HP 4 stroke and kicker, sold for a little under $24,000 recently....
I think 27K, unless all canvas, in good shape, without a Wallas stove, and with older Electronics is a little steep, but not way out of the ball park. I know of mid 2000 era boats selling for the low 30's, with lower hours in good condition.
My son bought a 1996 25, and the electronics were vintage but working. We didn't upgrade the Radar, but new 9" Chart plotter/fishfinder for about $700.