See what $15,000 will buy you
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Pat Anderson
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I'll let Bob speak to the downside, but I have been on an Albin 30 Aft Cabin owned by friends in Victoria, B.C., and think they are very cool. About the only downside I can think of is that it is 7 knot boat - burning a miserly 2 liters of diesel per hour - the downside being only that you can't go faster when you want to. We saw an Albin 25 Aft Cabin in the water at Conover Cove, and talked to the owners - similar, very comfortable, very fuel efficient. I like them. Warren - if you need a second boat, jump on it!
Doryman":zxqjexut said:
The Albins from that era are nice boats, very plain and simple, easy to maintain. Co-workers of mine had a 27 like that one. It's a great little cruiser for the money.
If that one is as it appears, it's worth more than $15k. I didn't see the price. Where did you get it?
Recent sales prices of these ranged from the mid teens for junky ones to the 30's at the top end, with most sales in the 20's, according to soldboats.com.
If that one is as it appears, it's worth more than $15k. I didn't see the price. Where did you get it?
Recent sales prices of these ranged from the mid teens for junky ones to the 30's at the top end, with most sales in the 20's, according to soldboats.com.
Fun Patrol
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Friends of mine had an Albin 27 for a couple of years and found towing an almost 10,000 # boat/trailer combination, and launching a deeper draft inboard were way too much hassle.
With that said, I also had a minimalist friend that lived aboard an Albin 27, anchored-out, for several years in Mexico. A little slow, but all the rest of us were in sailboats.
However, when the wind and chop came up, he had no sails to stabilize the boat, and no speed to escape or mush through it, so it was "Victory at Sea".
We ran into a group of Albins in the Gulf Islands in 06. They were a small owners group and found that it worked best for them to cruise with other Albins and not try to mix in with faster and/or larger boats.
But the bait is tempting, eh?
....Roy
With that said, I also had a minimalist friend that lived aboard an Albin 27, anchored-out, for several years in Mexico. A little slow, but all the rest of us were in sailboats.
However, when the wind and chop came up, he had no sails to stabilize the boat, and no speed to escape or mush through it, so it was "Victory at Sea".
We ran into a group of Albins in the Gulf Islands in 06. They were a small owners group and found that it worked best for them to cruise with other Albins and not try to mix in with faster and/or larger boats.
But the bait is tempting, eh?
....Roy
Bill Uffelman
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The couple who "run" trawlerfest on the east coast live aboard a 27 most of the year moving by water up and down the coast and around the Loop.
Note that the connection between the fore cabin and aft cabin is canvas. As noted it is a slow speed trawler with great mileage. There are a few on the Chesapeake.
Last one I looked at with comparable equipment in 2003 was $35K.
Bill Uffelman
Las Vegas NV
Note that the connection between the fore cabin and aft cabin is canvas. As noted it is a slow speed trawler with great mileage. There are a few on the Chesapeake.
Last one I looked at with comparable equipment in 2003 was $35K.
Bill Uffelman
Las Vegas NV
I have always liked the Albin 27's. They are well built, in the USA, and very economical slow small cruisers. There are some modifications of the cabin which have been done--but basically the sleeping cabin is aft--with twin bunks (one on each side). A few have made into a double plus, with limited head room and no commode in the aft cabin. (I know some who have put a porti potty in there--but it is cramped) Also unless you enclose the cockpit--you have to go "outside" between the forward and aft cabins. Spray can come in the foreward facing door of the aft cabin.
Many owners fully inclose the cockpit wheel house area--and I have seen some with extended wheel house roofs. The engines vary from 61 hp Ford Lehman or the Peguot (which this one has--and this is not quite as heavy duty an engine as the Ford Tractor engine, But I suspect that it will give very; good service if not stressed and well cared for) up to 157 hp Nissan which will give speed up to 12 knots. (some have been retrofitted with Yanmars, and other engines) I have heard of some boats going 15 to 17 knots, but I suspect that is light and WOT, not a realistic cruising speed.
The beam on the 27 is 9' 8" (the 25 is 8'6", thus no permit to trailer). Draft was 2'6", with full keel protection of the running gear. This perticular boat seems to be set on a modified flat bed trailer--which does not appear to be galvanized--and it appears that they put the boat on it using a Travel lift (probably could use a Fork Lift also).
The V berth is part of the dining table--and if you sleep up forward where the head is, then you probably would make the bunk up each night. There is no "back" for the aft facing seat at the dinette. (one can put a table in the cockpit as some have) My personal feeling is that this forward cabin is a bit cramped--and probably one of the reasons we never considered this boat for our own use. My recollection is that the headroom was very tight for me. (6'2")
A further comment about Trawler Fest and Dennis. It was founded and owned initially by Georgs Kolesnikovs, now a C Brat, with a Tom Cat 24. Dennis and Esther Bruckel have cruised their Albin 27 "Sadie B", up and down the waterways for over 12 years. They have traveled about 45,000 miles on this boat--and have over 8,000 engine hours. Dennis is now a Cruising Editor of Waterway Guide, and was Program Director of Trawler Fest, before it was sold to the Passagemaker magazine group. I had the pleasure of working with Dennis and Ester for several years--great folks! I am sure that Dennis would answer any of your question (Try dbruckel@ waterwayguide.com), Plus there is an active Albin owners group on Yahoo--where you can also get excellent answers.
This does seem like a good price: The ones for sale on Yacht World start at 20K up to 40K. If the boat is in good shape, and what you want--it would be a good buy. It is certainly worth taking a look at!
Many owners fully inclose the cockpit wheel house area--and I have seen some with extended wheel house roofs. The engines vary from 61 hp Ford Lehman or the Peguot (which this one has--and this is not quite as heavy duty an engine as the Ford Tractor engine, But I suspect that it will give very; good service if not stressed and well cared for) up to 157 hp Nissan which will give speed up to 12 knots. (some have been retrofitted with Yanmars, and other engines) I have heard of some boats going 15 to 17 knots, but I suspect that is light and WOT, not a realistic cruising speed.
The beam on the 27 is 9' 8" (the 25 is 8'6", thus no permit to trailer). Draft was 2'6", with full keel protection of the running gear. This perticular boat seems to be set on a modified flat bed trailer--which does not appear to be galvanized--and it appears that they put the boat on it using a Travel lift (probably could use a Fork Lift also).
The V berth is part of the dining table--and if you sleep up forward where the head is, then you probably would make the bunk up each night. There is no "back" for the aft facing seat at the dinette. (one can put a table in the cockpit as some have) My personal feeling is that this forward cabin is a bit cramped--and probably one of the reasons we never considered this boat for our own use. My recollection is that the headroom was very tight for me. (6'2")
A further comment about Trawler Fest and Dennis. It was founded and owned initially by Georgs Kolesnikovs, now a C Brat, with a Tom Cat 24. Dennis and Esther Bruckel have cruised their Albin 27 "Sadie B", up and down the waterways for over 12 years. They have traveled about 45,000 miles on this boat--and have over 8,000 engine hours. Dennis is now a Cruising Editor of Waterway Guide, and was Program Director of Trawler Fest, before it was sold to the Passagemaker magazine group. I had the pleasure of working with Dennis and Ester for several years--great folks! I am sure that Dennis would answer any of your question (Try dbruckel@ waterwayguide.com), Plus there is an active Albin owners group on Yahoo--where you can also get excellent answers.
This does seem like a good price: The ones for sale on Yacht World start at 20K up to 40K. If the boat is in good shape, and what you want--it would be a good buy. It is certainly worth taking a look at!
That's odd. It isn't displaying in my browser, so I looked at the code, and see where it should be. I don't see any broken html tags or anything. The last thing that displays on my browser is "Teak swim platform and boarding ladder" and then it just ends. The lines with the price, location, and contact info are missing.Doryman":2xtphtry said:
Bill Uffelman
New member
Bob -- thanks for filling in the detail on Dennis and Trawlerfest. I met them in 2001 or 2002 and knew things had changed but htey sure love their Albin.
Bill Uffelman
Las Vegas NV
Bill Uffelman
Las Vegas NV
The problem turns out to be geezer-specific, not necessarily browser-specific. I asked my geeky wife (tropicalwebworks.com) why the page would not display those last lines.
I was thinking something might be broken, and might have to do with that bullet that does not belong between the teak platform and the price.
She immediately homed in on something much higher up in the code:
style=height: 1040px
They warned me that my eyes would go at 40, and they were right. I have my fonts set HUGE, and I constantly break inflexible web pages, and this is another example. My fonts are set so large that I ran out of screen space before reaching 1040 pixels in height. The text actually IS displaying in my browser, it's just that another part of the code is ending the page before I get to it. There is no reason to limit the vertical size of a web page. I notice this one was made with iWeb, so most likely the author has no idea that he has limited the vertical size, and no idea that doing so is both unnecessary and discriminatory against geezer eyes.
I was thinking something might be broken, and might have to do with that bullet that does not belong between the teak platform and the price.
She immediately homed in on something much higher up in the code:
style=height: 1040px
They warned me that my eyes would go at 40, and they were right. I have my fonts set HUGE, and I constantly break inflexible web pages, and this is another example. My fonts are set so large that I ran out of screen space before reaching 1040 pixels in height. The text actually IS displaying in my browser, it's just that another part of the code is ending the page before I get to it. There is no reason to limit the vertical size of a web page. I notice this one was made with iWeb, so most likely the author has no idea that he has limited the vertical size, and no idea that doing so is both unnecessary and discriminatory against geezer eyes.