Second Anchor Storage

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I have a bow anchor with windlass on C-View which is a 22' Cruiser. I want to carry a second anchor and rode in case I want to deploy one off the stern. I'm thinking about storing it under the floorboards underneath the table, but I'm wondering if other C-Brats have an alternative solution. I want to put it on the port side of the boat as the starboard side is already too heavy. Any suggestions?

Tony
 
We now put our extra anchor in our lazerate on our cape cruiser-23 it's a small danforth with about 30ft of line for beach use . When we had the c-22 we had a small grappling anchor we kept between the fuel tanks with about 100ft of line . Try the lazerate witha small danforth
 
So, I thought about this on my 25'; and, arrived at this conclusion. On previous boats I've owned, I sometimes would set two rodes but only during conditions which warranted two anchors. This occured for me only under two conditions: (1) when I had planned to stay out several days in known areas where it would make sense to carry the second anchor; and, (2) during long stays (generally lasting longer than several days) in unknown waters - both to accomodate conditions which could turn adverse. Since my last couple boats were walk-around center consoles, I simply brought the extra anchor and rode along in a box (sometimes) or simply tossed it up in the bow area.

On the 25', I intend to about the same. Rather than carrying the second rode w/ me all of the time, I'm still opting for carrying it only when I believe it's warranted. For me, it justifies why I don't carry a second anchor+rode all of the time, and allows me more inside storage space.

I think if I were to accomodate a full-time second anchor and rode, I would probably opt for your intended storage area; or, I would consider building a box for the cockpit and securing it to the port-side of the cockpit area with some method of yet undetermined but cleverly crafted means.

I'm currently carrying 400' of rode (x2 200' rode lines) in my anchor locker and on the 25', I still have room for another 400' - which I am very thankful for. In fact, during the next couple of months I'm going to secure a set of cleats to hold the anchor locker lazerette door open while navigating inside the anchor locker. That bloody door is painful and bothersome to maintain in the open state when you have to attend the rode - ugh!

Actually, I just thought of something - could be a real loser thought, but - have you considered simply extending your anchor locker and rebuilding it to accomodate a larger amount of rode and two anchors? That might be a good option.
 
On Valkyrie we carry an assembled Fortress under the aft seat of the dinette. An extra rode w/15 feet of chain is stored in the aft port lazerette. Although a few Brats have questioned the practice, we have a heavy duty LOCKING carabiner at the end of the chain.
Our reasoning is that if an emergency arises, it would be fairly expedient to retrieve the anchor (it lives on top), grab the the rode and snap and secure the carabiner to the anchor, allowing emergency deployment.

If we were cruising extensively in high tidal areas, such as the Bahamas, where a Bahamian rode is necessitated, I would probably buy an anchor bracket and attach it to the SS stern rail at the rear of the cockpit and hank and secure the rode to the rail, as well, letting it hang into the splashwell.

Another possibility would be to mount an anchor bracket on the bow pulpit and secure the anchor (only) to the bracket and to an upright supporting the bow pulpit to keep it from banging the rubrail. The rode would then be carried forward when deploying the anchor. I had a similar arrangement on one of my sailboats.

Hope this helps.

Nick
"Valkyrie"
 
Like Nick I carry a Fortress for a spare. It's an FX-7 stored under the aft dinette seat, disassembled, in it's original box. I keep a complete backup rode up in the "anchor locker". 250' of 3/8" 3-strand and 15' of chain w/shackles. It is kept inside of a heavy cloth bank bag.
 
I have not carried a spare as of yet but I'm thinking of it. I will be adding a windlass very soon. So that got me to thinking. If the main rode is coming in thru the windlass hole and into the anchor well, then why not have a spare laying under the main in the anchor well with the end coming up thru the old anchor well access? you will only need the spare it the main is out or gone, right? so if you have room for another 100 to 200 ft why not but it there and the spare anchor on a mount on the rail? Any one try this yet or for see a problem? well coiled rope should not tangle. You could even sperate them with a thin piece of wood or heavy cloth.
 
Well, I've always carried a second anchor and rode, just in case. Seeing as Journey On is only a 25' boat, I got a Fortress FX-7, rated for 16-27' boats. It only weighs ~4 lbs, great holding power, etc, etc,etc.

Finally used it last summer at Santa Cruz Island, (off Santa Barbara) in one of the anchorages where one has to anchor fore and aft. Had 30' of chain on it. Wouldn't set because it didn't have the weight to break into the kelp. Very embarrassing, cause So Cal sailors don't want you to come too close, and they don't always want to help. Now I'm not saying it isn't a good anchor, but since it's light, it needs a sandy bottom where it doesn't need to go through anything to get to the holding bottom.

My advice is to try it out where you boat, to see if it works. I got a 13# Danforth knock off from West Marine to use in So Cal.

Boris
 
Thomas-
Your point is taken if this were merely for a spare anchor (in case the primary was lost) and rode. In the case of securing the vessel via two anchors + rode (on a somewhat frequent basis), having them both in a small anchor locker makes it difficult if you're establishing two anchors+rode from bow and stern.
Norm
 
We keep two extra anchors and rodes under the dinette floor--did in the 22, do in the 25 and 255.

So far we have never had to access the anchor locker of any of our C Dory boats for deploying the anchors or retrieving them (not true of other boats). The more line and chain you have in the locker, the more likely it is to become "tossed".
 
On C-Cakes, a 2006 22, we have a 5kg Bruce with 200 ft of line and 15 ft of chain in a cloth bag under the aft dinette seat. It fits fine and that is where I store all the other spare lines etc. It is just for emergencies when the main anchor is lost or a two anchor setup is needed. My stern line (200ft of poly on a reel) is kept on the cockpit floor between the fuel tanks.
 
On our 22ft the main anchor is a 16lb Bruce with 30ft of chain and 1/2in line, we pull it by hand no problem-fact the wife usually performs this task. My backup/fishing anchor, stored in the port laz is a 12lb Bruce with 10ft of chain and 3/8in line, set-up with a release. I figure if the weather is so bad a 12lb Bruce won’t hold me on the fishing I shouldn’t be out. Both have 600 feet of line and if the motor conks in deep water I can double that, a nice safety net.

The only time I ever set off the stern is in conjunction with a bow set to keep the boat into the swells when we settle for the night; that stretchy Anchor Buddy cord works great for this.

In general, an anchor set off the stern is a prelude to disaster.eek.gif

If you’re windless conks on yea have a buoy/ring puller for a backup, we use one for pulling the shrimp pots but most use them for pulling anchor.
 
Cview":2c2yo3dy said:
I have a bow anchor with windlass on C-View which is a 22' Cruiser. I want to carry a second anchor and rode in case I want to deploy one off the stern. I'm thinking about storing it under the floorboards underneath the table, but I'm wondering if other C-Brats have an alternative solution. I want to put it on the port side of the boat as the starboard side is already too heavy. Any suggestions?

Tony
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Tony, we keep a seven pound Fortress FX 11 as a backup to our fourteen pound Delta. I typically keep the rode in either a plastic bucket, or a canvas bag. I have purchased a clip that holds a Fortress, and plan to install it on the side of a gunnel. Here's a photo from Tim and Pam's True Story...

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I also recommend that you keep a line handy for tying off the stern when you have the opportunity.

Steve
 
I've got a Fortress FX 7 I use as a backup anchor which mostly serves as a beaching anchor. It resides between the gas tanks along with a 50' x 3/8" line in the gunnel pocket and a 200' 3/8 line and 2 lengths of chain one 4' and one 8' in the storage compartment under the table. Typically when using it as a beaching anchor off the stern I deploy my claw anchor off the bow about 100' from shore and back into shore. I either cast or walk my fortress up the shallow water to the beach with 4' of chain and the 50' line manually setting it in the wet sand. After it's been set for several hours with wave action and tide acting on it I literally have to dig it out. I'd like to have the mounting clip for it but can't bring myself to pay the rediculous price they ask for it plus I can't justify taking up permenant real estate with it as infrequently as I use it. In deeper water applications it takes 12' of chain and lots of scope.
 
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