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1. 19'Cape Dory Typhoon
26' Mull design Ranger
30' O'Day
30' Freedom
13' Boston Whaler Classic (for 32 years)
15' Boston Whaler Classic
9' Boston Whaler Squall/sail
14' P14
9' Avon Rollup
16' C-Dory cruiser

2. 16' C-Dory
8' Avon
9' Boston Whaler Squall

3. 17' Arima, C-Dory

4. Wanted the operating economy and pilot house of the C-Dory

5 Will probably move up to a larger C-Dory but also considering Rosborough, SeaSport, or Orca.
 
Forgot the Sabot, a great little boat for leisurely sailing.
 
Boats Owned:
16' Regal
21' Tahiti Tri-Hull
21' Regal Cabin Cruiser
25' Sea Ray Sundancer Cruiser
30' Sea Ray Sundancer Cruiser
36' Hatteras Sedan

Boats Currently Own:
30' Suntracker Party Hut
25' C-Dory Tomcat
43' Riviera Sportfisher Convertible

Future:
Will sell my 43' Riviera and finish out my boating with Suntracker and Tomcat.
 
1. boats you've owned in the past;
  • 10' (?) Coleman, not sure what it was called, it was a green plastic flatbottomed jobbie that came with our tent trailer.
    12' Feathercraft
    16' Smokercraft
    22' C-Dory Cruiser

2. boat(s) you currently own or most recently owned;
  • 25 C-Dory Cruiser
    16 C-Dory Angler
    Alaska Series dinghy

3. boats that were on your "short list" of possibilities prior to purchase of your current/most recent boat;
  • None

4. major factors in your purchase decision;
  • I always wanted to overnight on the Smokercraft. Patty saw a C-Dory at Active Cove and said "I could overnight on that boat." The more we learned, the more we wanted one. We got a 22, moved to a 25 and then decided we needed a 16!

5. what boat, if any, might be next?
I think we have exactly what we want now. The CD25 for extended cruising and the CD16 for crabbing, shrimping, or any quick outing.
 
owned in the past:
Small inflatable rowing dinghy
Optimist pram
12' Feather Craft aluminum skiff
15' Boston Whaler
18' Hydra Sports cc
44' CSY
11' Boston Whaler
14' Sea Doo twin jetboat
27' Corsair F-27

currently own:
15' Boston Whaler (a different one...I've regressed)
Sea Doo PWC
12' Feather Craft aluminum (same one, but it's mine again)
Caribe RIB
West Marine inflatable dink
Klepper foldable kayak
2 Hobie Adventure Islands
Ocean Kayak Sprinter
Couple of junky kayaks

Short list:
Most recent purchase was the Adventure Islands. If there's a list of comparable kayaks, I haven't seen it. ;)

Major factor in purchase:
Grin factor. :D

Next:
Probably something big, fat, and slow. My wife let me buy the F-27, and I agreed she could choose the next one. It won't be a fast trimaran, though she loves her Adventure Island. ;)
 
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Boats I have owned in the past:

1. 1- 13ft. Boston Whalers
2. 3- 17ft. Boston Whalers
3. 1- 22ft. Boston Whaler (Revenge)


Boats I own now:

1. 1- 22ft. C-Dory Angler
2. 1- 25ft. Macgregor Sailboat
3. 1- 13ft. Boston Whaler
4. 1- 6ft. Fiberglass Dink

Boats I hope to own in the future:

I am still looking for that boat, but it will have sails, and be in the range of 30-36 ft. and I will call it "Home Sweet Home" as I sail off into retirement in a few years or sooner if this economy doesn't improve by then.
 
Mike - just out of interest, how do you like the McGregor 25? I seriously thought about that boat as it can be powered with a 75HP motor and can cruise at about the same speed as a CD 22 (well maybe a little less). It has a ton of space inside and I like the overall design. What worried me was what seemed like very cheap construction overall and some claims from others to the same effect. What has been your experience? Pluses and minuses?
 
Hi Roger,

Not trying to speak for Mike, but the MacGregor you are asking about is the 26 - either the X or the M models that can take a 50 hp motor. Those are both water ballast boats, where the MacGregor 25 has a weighted swing keel and uses a small hp outboard. Very different boats.

I did own a MacGregor 26x, and it does what they advertise. Not the greatest sailboat, nor the best powerboat, but it does both functions decently. A dealer friend of mine tells me that about half of the X and M boats are never sailed - they are the most inexpensive "cabin cruiser" you can buy new. (Well, only the M is available new these days) Those boats are lightly built, but I've never heard of any of them "breaking up." I wouldn't take one (willingly) into conditions we've had our C-Dory in, but we had ours in 40 knot winds with 5-6' closely spaced waves and nothing broke (this during a 60 mile race).

For what it's worth, I have seen quite a few MacGregor 26x boats in the PNW when we cruise that area... they are often sailing when other sailboats aren't. Traditional sailors seem to have something against the MacGregors; maybe because the boats are anything but traditional. Roger MacGregor does a good job of designing and marketing these boats, and seems to sell all he cares to make. I've also been on a 65' MacGregor sailboat that was a real rocket. And our neighbor has a 26 year old MacGregor 36' catamaran that is a fast boat. MacGregor owners have an enthusiastic owners group and are about as loyal as this group... but no forum like the C-Brats.

The 25 model that Mike has is one of the few trailerable boats inducted into the Sailing Hall of Fame. It's a good sailing boat, but motors at hull speed.

Blue Water Yachts in your neck of the woods is one of the biggest MacGregor dealers in the country.

Hope that sheds some light.

Best wishes,
Jim B.
 
owned:
8' sabot sailboat (restored it)
14' fibreglass painter reproduction (clinkerbuilt rowboat)
14' cope (welded aluminum) skiff w/25 hp evinrude
14' fibreglass painter reproduction 1/2 ownership
16' double eagle w/ 50 hp yamaha

Now own:
21 Arima Sea Ranger Hardtop w/ 130 Honda

Next Boat:
22 C-Dory Cruiser or
22 Sea Sport or
Osprey
 
foggydew":r0nrtohd said:
owned:
8' sabot sailboat (restored it)
14' fibreglass painter reproduction (clinkerbuilt rowboat)
14' cope (welded aluminum) skiff w/25 hp evinrude
14' fibreglass painter reproduction 1/2 ownership
16' double eagle w/ 50 hp yamaha

Now own:
21 Arima Sea Ranger Hardtop w/ 130 Honda

Next Boat:
22 C-Dory Cruiser or
22 Sea Sport or
Osprey
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Are you unhappy with the Arima?

-Greg
 
Owned:
16' Reinell
19' Cobalt
21' Sea Swirl Striper WA
14' Gregor

Currently Boatless, not for long


Next Boat: Was sold on a 22 Angler or 24 TomCat, but may have to wait, curious about the newer Rosborough or Arima as alternative. I'm mainly into fishing. Suspect a 14' Twin Vee or Livingston (small cats) will help me survive until the pilot house makes sense. Can actually tow the small cats with my Corolla!!
 
rogerbum":1tgh4vs1 said:
Mike - just out of interest, how do you like the McGregor 25? I seriously thought about that boat as it can be powered with a 75HP motor and can cruise at about the same speed as a CD 22
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Roger,

JimB's answer above explains this pretty well. I have seen 26M's with 70 hp and one 26X with a 90 hp Honda. Although that boat was pretty funny, I think they're all better off with a 50, as designed.

We sold MacGregors at the dealership where I work for a while. I think we're still on his website as a dealer, and we may stock them again. Although they are lightly built, we never had a warranty claim on a MacGregor. One arrived with a leaky window, and that's it. I was very surprised by the quality and by the customer satisfaction. I was one of those snooty sailors who always thought that powerboats should be powerboats and sailboats should be sailboats. On my first close-up look at a MacGregor 26, I noted that the windows were a bit cockeyed and the rigging was incredibly flimsy. True, but they don't leak, and they don't break. I have come to respect Roger MacGregor's achievement with his powersailers. He did something that can't/shouldn't be done, people love it, and last time I heard he was selling 40 of them a month because the California EPA won't let him make the 60 boats his plant can produce each month.

We sell used X and M models regularly, and the X boats from the 1990's are holding up pretty well. They go for $10,000 to $20,000.
 
Roger,
Jim can speak for me anytime and he can pick up the check too. He is correct on every point.

TomRay makes the point that the Mac line provides customer satisfaction and speaking only for myself, I love the boat.

I have the boat at the riggers as we speak having the standing rigging replaced. I had a crevice ring fail and it made me look hard and long at the rigging which is now only 28 years old and I thought it might be about time to replace it. Most sailors will replace their standing rigging every 2 to 3 years. That says a lot about the Mac hardware in that it might look light or flimsby but it works.
 
Yes, I was always quite intrigued with the MacGregor 26 from the first time I saw one, I think we encountered a guy on one with a Honda 50 in the Gulf Islands a few years ago, and he explained the water ballast. If decent used ones are under $20K, it would sure seem like it might be the cat's meow to get out on the water for cruising cheap. Plus the ability to either plane or sail seems very cool. Even though it obviously could not be the best at either, the ability to do both seems like a big plus.
 
Pat Anderson":2ar9o7kz said:
1. boats you've owned in the past;
10' (?) Coleman, not sure what it was called, it was a green plastic flatbottomed jobbie that came with our tent trailer.
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Pat-

It's called a "Coleman Crawdad", I believe:

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Joe. :teeth :thup
 
Yes indeed, that's the one! I see it was actually 12' long. We powered it with a 3 hp Sears outboard, and used it for many years in Birch Bay for crabbing, back when the beach police used to let us launch at the State Park and the crab police used to let us crab there. As to the "indestructable" part, that was our downfall - we believed it! We kept it chained up on the beach at Birch Bay like many other folks kept their small boats. One year we returned after a particularly bad winter storm to find half of it still chained up and the other half a quarter mile up the beach. End o' the Crawdad...if we had not believed it was indestructible, we would probably have it still and not have the CD16 Angler, or even possibly any C-Dory, as the Crawdad's demise led to the Feathercraft, the Feathercraft's demise (another story) led to the Smokercraft, the Smokercraft took us out to Patos where we saw a C-Dory for the first time - well, you get the connection!
Sea Wolf":rg8obl02 said:
Pat-

It's called a "Coleman Crawdad", I believe:

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Joe. :teeth :thup
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Next Boat:
22 C-Dory Cruiser or
22 Sea Sport or
Osprey[/quote]

Are you unhappy with the Arima?

-Greg[/quote]

Not at all. I do however like the creature comforts like table and galley.
A boat, any boat is a compromise.

Just looked at the add above for 23 C-Dory Venture, looks like a pretty good fishing/cruising compromise!
 
foggydew":3e1nf8s3 said:
Next Boat:
22 C-Dory Cruiser or
22 Sea Sport or
Osprey
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Are you unhappy with the Arima?

-Greg[/quote]

Not at all. I do however like the creature comforts like table and galley.
A boat, any boat is a compromise.

Just looked at the add above for 23 C-Dory Venture, looks like a pretty good fishing/cruising compromise![/quote]

I took a long look at the 21' Arima last week. I was most impressed with the 6'7" V-berth length (on the starboard side). Is yours with the enclosed cabin?

-Greg
 
I took a long look at the 21' Arima last week. I was most impressed with the 6'7" V-berth length (on the starboard side). Is yours with the enclosed cabin?

-Greg

Yes, with AK bulkhead... If you are interested in Arima go to arimaboatownersgroup.yuku.com
You can see my boat there.
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Owned:
14' aluminum jonboat for duckhunting
17" Whaler...great boat
21" Fiberform walkaround cuddy
17" Wooldridge Sport 2000...fabulous boat!
CD22

Looked at:
Sea Sport
Osprey

As for the next boat, there probably won't be one. We love the 22...it would be nice to ave a bigger boat, but the expenses go up real quick.

By the way, foggydew...we like your user name...you can see why...hey, things could get confusing around here! :lol:
Rick & Donna
 
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