Owners manuals are online
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tom&shan
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Notice - as I found out last year and sent an email to the factory - the 16 manual has the wrong information in it as far as the steering cable - its copied from the 22 manual. The 16 does NOT take a 19' steering cable, its more like a 13 (cant remember).
Tom
Tom
There seem to be lots of errors in the TC 255 manual. Some are entertaining (such as the stern light/steaming light--since all boats come with a single 360 degree light). Maybe the water tank has been moved--but the manual is dated 2006, and my 2006 boat has the water tank on the stb side, with its fill on the side deck by the helm, instead of on the port side, with a cockpit fill, as noted in the manual.
It is a start, but the manuals really have to reflect what is on the boats. For example in the TC 255, the steering is noted to be hyraulic and Sea Star, but then instructions are given for inspection of the cable of the manual Teleflex cable. No mention of the liquid tie bar, no mention of alignment or bleeding proceedure or filling the fluid level.
There is no link to the wiring diagram (just took me in circles)
Its a start, but if they put up a manual, then it needs to be proof read by someone who owns the boats and is familiar with them.
Oh yes, if you notice a defect: "C-Dory Marine, Inc., selling any boat, warrants that it will, without charge, replace or repair at its option, any part (except as hereinafter provided) which is shown to its satisfaction, to
be defective in factory material or workmanship within five years from the date of delivery to the original buyer, provided that the original buyer returns the boat free and clear of all lien and encumbrances and with all transportation prepaid to C-Dory Marine’s factory or to the
closest marina capable of doing the repair (pre-approved by C-Dory Marine, Inc.) within 30 days of discovering the defect." So if you still have the boat financed are you out of luck? Sounds like the factory is back in the business of repairs--according to this manual!
Glad to hear that the factory is going to cover for 5 years--I assume that this includes blistering, gel coat, crazing etc....Great news.
I'll look at the CD 25--but since there are many changes, I think that it will not reflect the 2003 boat.
It is a start, but the manuals really have to reflect what is on the boats. For example in the TC 255, the steering is noted to be hyraulic and Sea Star, but then instructions are given for inspection of the cable of the manual Teleflex cable. No mention of the liquid tie bar, no mention of alignment or bleeding proceedure or filling the fluid level.
There is no link to the wiring diagram (just took me in circles)
Its a start, but if they put up a manual, then it needs to be proof read by someone who owns the boats and is familiar with them.
Oh yes, if you notice a defect: "C-Dory Marine, Inc., selling any boat, warrants that it will, without charge, replace or repair at its option, any part (except as hereinafter provided) which is shown to its satisfaction, to
be defective in factory material or workmanship within five years from the date of delivery to the original buyer, provided that the original buyer returns the boat free and clear of all lien and encumbrances and with all transportation prepaid to C-Dory Marine’s factory or to the
closest marina capable of doing the repair (pre-approved by C-Dory Marine, Inc.) within 30 days of discovering the defect." So if you still have the boat financed are you out of luck? Sounds like the factory is back in the business of repairs--according to this manual!
Glad to hear that the factory is going to cover for 5 years--I assume that this includes blistering, gel coat, crazing etc....Great news.
I'll look at the CD 25--but since there are many changes, I think that it will not reflect the 2003 boat.
matt_unique
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I quickly read through the Tomcat manual, there are several errors but it's a start.
The max load is listed as 8000 lbs...6000 hull, 900 fuel, 251 water, my twin engines will weigh 948...for a total so far of 8099 before adding any gear or passengers
I hope this is wrong by at least 1000 lbs....
As mentioned above the Tomcat manual also references a 10 year warranty at one point and 5 years in the warranty section. I found at least one spelling error.
Hopefully someone at C-Dory will read the manual then repost them
The max load is listed as 8000 lbs...6000 hull, 900 fuel, 251 water, my twin engines will weigh 948...for a total so far of 8099 before adding any gear or passengers
I hope this is wrong by at least 1000 lbs....As mentioned above the Tomcat manual also references a 10 year warranty at one point and 5 years in the warranty section. I found at least one spelling error.
Hopefully someone at C-Dory will read the manual then repost them
journey on
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Has anybody noticed the maximum gross weight for a C-25? The factory says that's 4500 #, and includes motor, passengers, fuel, etc.
Now,
Hull 3600 # (from factory)
Motor 500 # (includes feed system, oil, etc.)
Passengers 400 # (2 ea)
Fuel 600 # (100 gal)
Battery 50 # (1 ea.)
Water 160 # (20 gal)
Total 5300 #
Overloaded using minimum factory provided equipment, no electronics, cruising gear, anchor, or downriggers. Either we're all in trouble, or the factory better rethink something. Liability labeling?
Don't flush the toilet.
Boris
Now,
Hull 3600 # (from factory)
Motor 500 # (includes feed system, oil, etc.)
Passengers 400 # (2 ea)
Fuel 600 # (100 gal)
Battery 50 # (1 ea.)
Water 160 # (20 gal)
Total 5300 #
Overloaded using minimum factory provided equipment, no electronics, cruising gear, anchor, or downriggers. Either we're all in trouble, or the factory better rethink something. Liability labeling?
Don't flush the toilet.
Boris
Darn it.... There is so much discussion about that warrantee time...and what if's... it drives me crazy.... I for one think the factory is First Class...and to question or even think that they would short change anyone is almost like a personal insult to me.... I may complain about lots of things....but that company and my purchase is not one of them....
I think before we'all start worrying about them, we should try to think of when we ever heard of anyone that was refused by the company.... I can't remember when... in fact I know a couple that had problems with their boat and the company bought it back from them...at full price and sold them a new one.... Never, never,...never have I heard of a company that is so good to its purchasers...... thats why so many folks are on their 3rd and 4th C-Dory.....
Joel
SEA3PO (Just had to vent....thanks I feel better now)
I think before we'all start worrying about them, we should try to think of when we ever heard of anyone that was refused by the company.... I can't remember when... in fact I know a couple that had problems with their boat and the company bought it back from them...at full price and sold them a new one.... Never, never,...never have I heard of a company that is so good to its purchasers...... thats why so many folks are on their 3rd and 4th C-Dory.....
Joel
SEA3PO (Just had to vent....thanks I feel better now)
We weighed our CD 25--no fuel or water, no cushions no gear, 130 Honda.
The Aluminum trailer is susposed to weigh 800 lbs..May weigh slightly more--but that is the "factory number".
We got #5500 lbs on the trailer. I figure a minum of at least 1000 lbs more--and would not be at all suprised it it was close to 2000 lbs more when ready to cruise.
I figure that my Tom Cat weight is close to 10,000 on the trailer. Trailer is susposed to weigh 1200 lbs.
The Aluminum trailer is susposed to weigh 800 lbs..May weigh slightly more--but that is the "factory number".
We got #5500 lbs on the trailer. I figure a minum of at least 1000 lbs more--and would not be at all suprised it it was close to 2000 lbs more when ready to cruise.
I figure that my Tom Cat weight is close to 10,000 on the trailer. Trailer is susposed to weigh 1200 lbs.
marvin4239
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I looked through the 22 manual. It's obviously several years old as it doesn't reflex changes such as larger fuel tanks and hydralic steering. Only date I could find was a copyright of 2000. Still it's a nice feature especially if they update it.
mikeporterinmd
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marvin4239":1od0iy31 said:
How large are the fuel tanks? The last time I had a tank really low, I added
19 gallons, and there was still room at the top. But, I didn't know how much,
and my flow gauges are set for 40 gallons, so I just filled to 40.
Mike
marvin4239
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I think they were enlarged recently. Website says they are 46 gallons or 23 a piece. I may be mistaken but I think the 2007 are 25 gallons.
A few comments:
1) I agree with Joel re: the warranty stuff.
2) The new tanks are 25 gals. but the factory is probably putting 23 as the usable capacity.
3) One of the problems with producing an owners manual is that many of the items one really wants to know about (electrical, steering etc) are not that standardized. This is especially true for the pre-2002 or so boats (e.g. back in the "good old days" when the factory was doing customization). I think it's interesting that we as a group bemoan the lack of customization today AND at the same time, complain that the manual doesn't reflect our boats accurately. IMHO - you get one or the other but not both. Since the engines are typically rigged by the dealer, components such as the steering system and electrical for the engines (gauges etc) are going to be hooked up/wired differently by each dealer. The manuals produced by the factory cannot anticipate exactly how these things will be done except in the most general of ways.
The electrical system is often also fairly custom with people having anywhere from 1 to 3 (or even more) batteries, differing numbers of combiners, chargers etc AND differing types of gear installed downstream. Even the stuff that is done at the factory may vary slightly in exact configuration as each installer may do things a little differently.
However, one thing I suggested 1-2 years ago was that the factory create a standardized wiring harness for each model and install it the same way in each boat. The basic systems (shore power and 12V) could be very standardized with a wiring harness that could be created externally to the boat and installed the same way each time. One could design such a harness to be very flexible in use (e.g. it could be designed in such a way to provide a few extra wires for different situations). My guess is that one could even have it manufactured elsewhere and and that if done properly, it would result in substantial cost savings relative to what is done presently (e.g. installers running individual wires around). THEN one could accurately document at least those parts of the electrical system.
1) I agree with Joel re: the warranty stuff.
2) The new tanks are 25 gals. but the factory is probably putting 23 as the usable capacity.
3) One of the problems with producing an owners manual is that many of the items one really wants to know about (electrical, steering etc) are not that standardized. This is especially true for the pre-2002 or so boats (e.g. back in the "good old days" when the factory was doing customization). I think it's interesting that we as a group bemoan the lack of customization today AND at the same time, complain that the manual doesn't reflect our boats accurately. IMHO - you get one or the other but not both. Since the engines are typically rigged by the dealer, components such as the steering system and electrical for the engines (gauges etc) are going to be hooked up/wired differently by each dealer. The manuals produced by the factory cannot anticipate exactly how these things will be done except in the most general of ways.
The electrical system is often also fairly custom with people having anywhere from 1 to 3 (or even more) batteries, differing numbers of combiners, chargers etc AND differing types of gear installed downstream. Even the stuff that is done at the factory may vary slightly in exact configuration as each installer may do things a little differently.
However, one thing I suggested 1-2 years ago was that the factory create a standardized wiring harness for each model and install it the same way in each boat. The basic systems (shore power and 12V) could be very standardized with a wiring harness that could be created externally to the boat and installed the same way each time. One could design such a harness to be very flexible in use (e.g. it could be designed in such a way to provide a few extra wires for different situations). My guess is that one could even have it manufactured elsewhere and and that if done properly, it would result in substantial cost savings relative to what is done presently (e.g. installers running individual wires around). THEN one could accurately document at least those parts of the electrical system.
Good Day Bob!! I got an email a while back from someone in Auburn WA and they indicated for kicks and grins they were to put a loop electrical circuit in the owners manual just to pull your chain...and see how long would you really try to figure it out...or ..just realize it was a loop. So.. how long did it take?? Enquiring minds want to know!! 
Love ya man...and I do truly enjoy your work with and around these boats. Hope to see you again soon.
On edit...I forgot to address the spelling... I figure I spelled it correctly if I get it close enough for any spell check to find it...if I take the time to even do a spell check... Should get close enough that folks can get the idea...or, let me vote on how things should be spelled the next time.
My wife Sherryl is a senior administrator in the college system. She indicates with so much going on via email/web base info exchange in the college world today between faculty, staff, and students....that the students are giving the faculty and staff fits in many communications due to the "text messaging language" that the younger folks are using.
Byrdman...just pulling Bob's chain.
Love ya man...and I do truly enjoy your work with and around these boats. Hope to see you again soon.
On edit...I forgot to address the spelling... I figure I spelled it correctly if I get it close enough for any spell check to find it...if I take the time to even do a spell check... Should get close enough that folks can get the idea...or, let me vote on how things should be spelled the next time.
My wife Sherryl is a senior administrator in the college system. She indicates with so much going on via email/web base info exchange in the college world today between faculty, staff, and students....that the students are giving the faculty and staff fits in many communications due to the "text messaging language" that the younger folks are using.
Byrdman...just pulling Bob's chain.