Outside Mirrow Placement On A 22

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Wallkerbay

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On sunday the 16, We were coming out of the Lynnhaven Channel. There was a 45-50 ft. yacht behind us, He had been following us since the Great Neck bridge overpass. It was supose to be a no wake zone, But everyone was passing me. Then after passing under the Lesner Brdge, sill no wake zone,He hit his throttles before me. I had also given full throttle, but my lower unit came up due to im propper trim. I did not see him. He passed me on port side ,no horn bells ,nor by radio. I al most got caught in his rooster tail. I saw him pass on the port side. I had to turn right into his wake ,or capsize .Other wise it was a great trip. The are I am refering to is in Virginia Beach Va. The southern end of the Cheseapeke Bay. I thought about putting them on the out side low by the deck or buy the overhang. Any sugestions would be greatly appreceated :? :?:
 
We assume that you mean mirror. I think it would be a mistake to put mirrors on a C Dory. You have un-obstructed sight lines aft. This is far better than putting an appliance on the boat which would obstruct your going forward on the side decks.

Often in crowded situations where a "no wake zone" ends, it is common practice to just hit the throttle, and not give either a whistle signal or radio call. What channel did you have the radio on? What if everyone who was passing called each time they wanted to pass in this circumstance? What would have you done differently if you had been aware of his impending pass? Were you placed in any danger?

The boat which passed you was wrong. But this is very common on the ICW.
 
I've got a ski type mirror mounted on some 3/8 hardwood with velcro underneath and velcro above my entrance to the V-Berth in front of the center window it's easily removable. It's pretty useless about all I use it for is to shave. As usual I think Bob is right it's actually dangerous to try to navigate with. Around here in the ICW what you describe is normal operating procedure unfortunately. In those crowded situations I keep my head on a swivel and expect the worst.
 
Excuse me for highjacking this thread but the mention of crowded conditions and poor manners/boating practice triggered the need to vent. I spent Sunday on the upper Potomac from Mt. Vernon to DC. I have never witnessed so many do so much wrong in such a short time! The majority of boats are express cruisers, I guess it is a functional craft for the conditions. However, they seem to have two operating modes. Slow, with a squatting stern creating an enormous wake of which the master of the vessel has no awareness or apparrent concern, or very fast even in confined areas. One captain was first noted for his inability to put his express into a slip in favorable conditions (little wind and current) he ended up placing the boat across the two slip pilings perpendicular to the length of the slip. The slight breeze and current confounded his efforts to get the boat off so he used his twin crusaders to scrape his hull along the pilings until the bow cleared then he backed away from the slip and sped off. He was later spotted further up the river creating a huge wake as he drove at high speed under the upper river's bridges. Another express was bludgeonong his way down the river, repeatedly blasting the five short danger signal. I saw numerous children dangling their feet off the bow of fast moving boats. Boats way out of port/starboard trim zig-zagging erratically as they pulled kids in tubes. Boats waiting until they are within 70 feet of my stern before turning off in order to "jump" my wake!
Thought I had entered boaters version of the cuckoo's nest. This was DC!! home to numerous enforcement agencies from Coast Guard, to DC police to park rangers to the black helicopter guys. Where the heck were they all?
Please excuse the rant.
Mike "Levity"
 
Mike, they're all over! :x Lots down here at the mouth of the river too, just a lot more room. Here in our little creek it's the jetskis... No regard for folks in kyaks or small boats... Lots of kids hanging off the bow of cruisers dangling their feet. Lifejackets or not (and it's the law if they are under 16 and outside the cabin), they'd be screwmeat in a heartbeat.

I always call them on the radio if I see it, hoping that the marine police/USCG may be listening in. Never got a response, much less a thanks...

Charlie
 
Levity":3bianw8s said:
Thought I had entered boaters version of the cuckoo's nest.
Mike "Levity"
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Mike,
On the brighter side of this significant problem, you can always go to the launch ramps where these clowns frequent and watch their antics as in their own moronic way they drop their boats off the trailers onto the pavement, sink their boats by failing to insert their plugs, drag their boats out of the water with their outdrives scrapping the concrete and of course listen to their wives tell them to "take their boat and stick it somewhere"... :roll: .

That should make you feel better and provide a little levity (pun intended) to the situation. :wink
 
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Levity":2brmm4e2 said:
Thought I had entered boaters version of the cuckoo's nest.
Mike "Levity"
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Mike,
On the brighter side of this significant problem, you can always go to the launch ramps where these clowns frequent and watch their antics as in their own moronic way they drop their boats off the trailers onto the pavement, sink their boats by failing to insert their plugs, drag their boats out of the water with their outdrives scrapping the concrete and of course listen to their wives tell them to "take their boat and stick it somewhere"... :roll: .

That should make you feel better and provide a little levity (pun intended) to the situation. :wink
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Say what? You say I got this boat launching thing backwards?
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Joe. :teeth :thup
 
I have a rounded, wide-view water ski mirror as well.

I mounted mine hanging down from the electronics shelf just to the left of my head because I noticed that the closer I placed it towards me, the larger the images were in it, and either the view is wider when it's closer, or it seems so because of the larger images.

Very useful once you get used to it!

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
Mike, You are correct--80% of the boaters have no idea of what they are doing. Fortunately I live on an almost isolated bay, where there are no good ramps, and I try and avoid the ICW or passes, etc, on the weekends, unless I want to anchor and watch the fun!

As for the boats coming to jump the wake--that is also illegal in many states. I just stop the boat, or at least make sure that there is no wake--the go elsewhere.
 
Hi,
I noticed you said we in your post. I keep my wife or sons involved by asking them to keep a watch out for these types of on the water world stroke jobs. She will say here comes a boat on your right. Ask her questions how big how fast etc and try to keep it light. I was thinking of a camera setup off of our radar arch just to keep track of my recent history and coming attractions as you have mentioned. But then where to place a monitor. More stuff we don't need. I think a camera can be tied into some of the new multifunction units. Most use them to keep an eye on engine rooms etc. In a few more weeks it should start to calm down. I try to avoid boating on weekends in the heart of the summer for the exact reasons you describe. I try to get out early and be where the motherlode of idiots is not. Sometimes you just got buck up and just deal with them.
D.D.
 
Walkerbay- I just used a ski mirror secured over the entrance to the sleeper.

Mike- I'm from that area. We originally got the Jeanie P because of being tired of the water spraying on us after being waked.

My son used to row for a high school team. You should see the wakes they have to deal with. I'm always amazed the shells aren't swamped more often. I've never seen the DC Harbor police, Coast Guard or Homeland Security, all of which patrol extensively here, stop any of these boats that dangerously wake others , Although I must say that the DC Harbor Police rigidly enforce the no wake zones except their own wake .

Allan
 
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