Oregon Cruise ship takes monster wave.

Not a ride I would want to be on. The Ship was built in the late 1980's and then refurbished in 2009. She is 290 feet long, 50 foot beam and 12 foot draft. She had been re-inforced for ice work apparently in the refit. However also recently she has been used for cruises on the great lakes. She is Malta flagged and a European crew: But the history tells us that in 2009 season she was pulled off the rocks once and had groundings two other times.

Although the ship looks very modern in the photos, I would be concerned. There is a lot of Movable furniture in the saloons. Already they describe windows broken out. The freeboard is low, and she appears top heavy. If the seas are really 30 feet (and I have not reason to think they are any less)--She is taking a real beating which an artic ship should be able to withstand.

This also answers one of the questions about twin engines. Although she is able to make way, the passangers are not going to be happy campers (and they may well be campers at this point!). Compare the motion of
Clelia II and the ship from which the videos are taken. I have been in seas of 40 feet in a 60 foot boat--and it is no fun. However an Artic passanger vessel should be able to withstand these conditions and not bury the bow, as this vessel does. Hopefully no other passangers or crew will be injured.
 
thataway":1lzoihih said:
But the history tells us that in 2009 season she was pulled off the rocks once and had groundings two other times.
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This raises red flags concerning the owners commitment to recruiting and retaining quality officers and crew. One has to wonder about the vessel's maintenance standards too.
Bob, where did you find the ship's history?
 
This vessel has been in the Duluth harbor a couple of times.

I believe the going rate for a ten day lakes cruise was between $10,000 and $15,000 dollars. :cry You can do it in a C-Dory a lot cheaper. :D C-Otter.
 
Bob, that's an interesting comment. I wonder what the ship is from which the video is taken. It's certainly not pitching as much.

That cruise ship looks like Journey On leaving Ventura Harbour in August, trying to get to Santa Cruz Isle. We were able to make a u-turn and come back to the harbour.

Boris
 
Just a bit ago Fox News said it was a National Geographic ship. This is a photo I took of the National Geographic ship Seabird at Red Bluff Bay, Southeast Alaska last summer. Wished I would have taken a more close up photo. Don't know if this is the one or even how many ships National Geographic operates.
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Hunkydory":3vs3ko5f said:
This is the link to the two ships that National Geographic operates. And the one the video of the ship in trouble was taken from had to be one of these twins.
http://www.expeditions.com/Ship_Detail92.asp?Ship=2
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Are you saying it was a NG vessel that gathered the video, or that the ship that took the wave was a NG vessel like the Sea Lion? The Sea Lion and its sister ship are a lot smaller than the ship that took the wave.
 
Dave

The news report I saw said it was a National Geographic ship that gathered the video. They could be wrong and I was wrong about National Geographic having only two ships. Should have checked further. This links shows several more and some much larger. It was most likely the National Geographic Explorer which is a fully stabilized ice class vessel. It is the first vessel shown in this link.
http://www.expeditions.com/Ship_Detail92.asp?Ship=2
 
looking at the history of the ship it appears as though the owners are unaware of the difference between lake cruising and high latitude expedition cruising. One cannot assume a ship can do both. the vessels regularly plying Ushahia and Patagonia to the Antarctic don't look like this ship. The wheelhouse is too far forward for southern ocean seas and she's top heavy. It's unfortunate that people buying cruises have no way of knowing if the ship is suitable without a ton of research. George
 
It was the NG SEA LION. CNN showed the video this morning, they came in close and fired a SATPHONE to the cruise ship on a highline. Very good seamanship.

Charlie
 
Big write up in Duluth paper today. It was the cruise ship Clelia II.

Was in the Duluth harbor 5 times this year. Has 80 passengers and 77 crew on board. C-Otter
 
I know both the Sea Bird and Sea Lion. These are not the ships which is identified as Clelia II.

I looked at a number of URL's for the history of her build, ownership and rebuild.

The link on her being grounded is at: http://tinyurl.com/3a3p3m9

" The same ship had to be pulled from the rocks off the peninsula during last season’s summer season, which lasts from November through February. The Clelia II was also grounded twice during its season in the Arctic this past fall." This is a bit curious, since I found another link which clearly showed that the Clelia II was used for Great Lake tours this summer and fall.

The ship which accompanied her back is noted to be the National Geographic Explorer, which is run by Lindblad expeditions. Her itiniary fits. She is Bahamas registration and Overall Length: 356 feet.
She was previously a ferry along the Norwegian coast for Hurtigruten.
In that incarnation, she carried approximately 300 passengers and 40 automobiles. She was converted by Lindblad in 2008 to a high lattitude cruise ship. Looking at the two ships, there is considerable difference in the hulls and freeboard etc. even though the size is not that much bigger.

The most recent posts show Clelia safely back in port.
 
Captains Cat":2fljkklt said:
It was the NG SEA LION. CNN showed the video this morning, they came in close and fired a SATPHONE to the cruise ship on a highline. Very good seamanship.

Charlie
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I took this picture of the NG Sea Lion in May 2009 as she was entering the Ballard Locks.

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I love how the original intend or content of threads change from beginning to end. First it’s a cruise ship in distress then all of a sudden maybe it’s a National Geographic research vessel. The National Geographic vessel was there to assist and took the video footage, OMG is it another National Geographic vessel that’s in distress. LOL :roll: :wink
 
National Geographic Explorer is not a research vessel in the formal sense --partnership between National Geographic Society and Lindblad expeditions. Lindblad expeditions has many cruises and "explorations". The National Geographic Explorer stood by Clelia II an unaffiliated cruise ship, in the best tradition of the sea, until she was safely back in port. Clelia II has no afilliation with National Geographic society at this time. That does not mean that a group put together by the society might not charter the ship at some time. The Sea Lion and Sea Bird are also National Geographic/Lindblad expeditions co-operation ships.
 
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