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Pat Anderson

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There is a 2018 Great Harbour TT35 listed for sale for $235,000 by a couple who just finished Looping on her. Look at the specs:

LOA: 35'8" - LWL : 34' 1" - Beam : 10'4" - Draft: 18" - Dry Weight: 7,000 lbs.
Fuel: 128 gallons - Water: 50 gallons - Power: Twin 60 hp 4-stroke outboards with heavy-duty lower units
Cruising Speed: 8-16 mph - Range: 500 - 1000 miles

It is described as a "trailerable trawler" - sound familiar? The 10'4" beam would seem to require a permit for trailering, but doable.

Here is their website. WAY more accommodations than our CD25 with most of the same benefits (shallow draft, low air draft) for the Loop. And it is a great lookong boat!
 
We have seen it before. You are poised to do the same as Fred and Robin - sell your perfect San Juan Islands boat, move up to a floating tank, say oops, sell it all, move to Tucson, and get more rain there in the first month than you get at home.

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Zing!

We too, started down the tank route - but not quite as big. Much as I liked the Nordic 26, it too was just too dang big and complicated. The more I age the more I see the value of reasonable minimalism...even though I suck at the actual implementation. I envy it in others who have pulled it off and am trying to adapt.

Fortunately when we parted ways with Wagmore there was no simultaneous desire to head south. That's a whole 'nother level of change I can't ever see happening. We're rooted in the wet and green.

While my participation here has dropped off to near nothing since we became boatless, I do still pop in and ponder. I'm near certain I had it sized right with the 22, and when the day comes to rejoin my C-Brat pals - it's either that, the 23, or if somebody other than "you know who" brings back the Marinaut - one of those.
 
Yeah yeah yeah I hear you on that. There are still times I miss my CD22.

I was just kidding around with the Baxter crew but I have to say I have read the post from the gentleman in MI a few times saying he is looking for an older CD25, possibly a project. I have one that would fit his needs very well.

I think we need at least one more season of ocean salmon fishing before selling, though. One thing for sure - unless I win the billion dollar lottery this week and can buy one with a full time crew I doubt there will be a bigger boat in my future.

That one Pat linked to is very cool looking, though!

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TyBoo":2j8hhmj4 said:
We have seen it before. You are poised to do the same as Fred and Robin - sell your perfect San Juan Islands boat, move up to a floating tank, say oops, sell it all, move to Tucson, and get more rain there in the first month than you get at home.

:xnaughty
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Just got back from there. A little rain, but nice and warm during the Puget ice storm, and the rest of the country…well, glad we missed that.

Problem is…no Puget Sound and no islands. Maybe if Lake Meade would fill.
 
I followed the build on that model on Great Harbor's site (and e-mails they sent). It was an interesting process. Unless they list their weight in the same way that C-Dory does it (actual weight minus 30%... yes, I am kidding... more like minus 28%), that is quite a light build for a boat that is significantly longer and wider than the CD-25, but weighs close to the same (actual weight, not that "fairytale stuff."

Before getting the CD-25, I briefly considered an Adventurecraft 28. But looking at the hull on that boat and the lack of liveaboard amenities, the C-Dory became the logical choice for us. It would have been an OK boat for weekending and protected waters (a lot of boat sticking out of the water, not much below). The TT35 looks like they may have designed the "right boat" for people wanting to "do the Loop."

I understand Will's current "boatless" perspective. I helped a neighbor launch his Ranger 25 a few days ago... I pulled the trailer, rinsed it, and parked it in a permit site, then brought his truck back to his house (while he drove the boat around). Joan said to me, "There is nothing about what you did that I want to do again." I was still feeling like I was still a "sailor" of sorts, with a Hobie kayak (with a sail kit), a paddle kayak, and a stand-up paddle board. Haven't used them for a couple years, so I sold them all last week. I still check in on this site regularly, because it is like "family" (because of the people here).

I have said that I could do another boat... the Blonde says I'll have to do that with my next wife. So... options. :wink:
 
There have been a number of issues with the TT35. There is a long saga somewhere of a couple getting one built. It did not go well according to them.

The TT35 is a good idea. I don't think that it was as successful as GH hoped. I'm not sure how many have been made.

I think it would have some of the same issue as the CDs do with docking, lots of windage. Although the wide spaced twins and bow thruster will help.
 
Looks like a great boat, on paper. However, I suspect my CD22 is much easier to launch and trailer, and therefore, I would likely use it a lot more. It would be nice on a long trip.....but, I'm not trading....
 
Trailering a boat wider than the 8.5 foot Federal over-wide limit on Loop segments or other cruises through multiple states is NOT easily ‘doable.’ It requires a separate State DOT permit from EACH AND EVERY STATE THAT YOU PLAN TO TRAVEL THROUGH. We’ll be heading back up again to cruise the Trent-Severn this summer, which would require state DOT oversize permits from eight or nine different states. You can’t deviate from the route you’re assigned. You can’t hitch up tomorrow and trailer 500 miles/day over the next three days (we’re on the Erie Canal from Pensacola by then!).

In Florida, it takes three days to receive your permit after you pay for it, and it’s only valid for ten days, and has further travel restrictions in two FL counties we’ve never heard of but have likely trailered through. If you want to trailer through the Keys, you must obtain a Monroe COUNTY permit in addition (enforced by the Monroe County Sheriff's office). Imagine that hassle multiplied by nine states, then throw in a bad wheel bearing or other delays. A Ranger 29 owner from NJ told us it cost over $800 in permits one-way to trailer his 10’ beam boat to the FMB, FL Looper Rendezvous in Jan 2021. If you think YOUR OWN State DOT bureaucracy seems to not be sufficiently attentive to your urgent travel needs, just imagine how bad it could be if you’re not even a state resident! Who you gonna complain to, YOUR state Congressperson?

Granted, there are easier annual options for a resident of FL or MI who doesn’t trailer cross country at the drop of a hat. By now, Colby would have spent $10,000 or more on State DOT Over-wide Permits over the years. Don’t be fooled by salesmen who imply you just need an aft Overwide vinyl sign and ‘a permit.’ You may need dozens of expensive short-term permits that are a complete hassle, and then you have to get back over Christmas, in which case you are SOL.

Any ‘trailerable pocket yacht’ over 8.5’ beam is NOT any more trailerable than a GH 37, which is a much nicer boat for only $200,000 more.

Hope this is helpful, or at least a reality check.

John
 
And Wild Blue Jim, boat or no boat, I'm one feller who's glad that you continue to check in here!

Tyboo Mike, just one more year? Fine, then, that just means I'm going to turn up the heat to get you up here for a cruise in the Salish Sea one more time before selling her. (The boat).
 
After the sale of Discovery we were very close to buying a larger boat and doing the Great Loop over a few years time. We really liked the Great Harbour N37 and actually had placed an offer to buy one. We had plane tickets and hotel reservations in Rhode Island to inspect the boat. The problem was that it was late in the fall and we needed to relocate the boat to Florida for the winter, in preparation for a spring start on the Great Loop.

We got cold feet at the last minute. Covid 19 happened and there were lots of reasons that we didn't want a big boat on the east coast.

The same boat is still listed at about the same price as it was in 2020.

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/2006-g ... 7-8440134/
 
Discovery":3ddzkdak said:
..... The problem was that it was late in the fall and we needed to relocate the boat to Florida for the winter [from Rhode Island], in preparation for a spring start on the Great Loop. We got cold feet at the last minute....
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Better cold feet than taking chances on the East coast late in fall; hurricane
season. Ernesto hit in late August that year and that was about the end of
hurricanes there that year, but you wouldn't have known that at the time of your
planned passage to Florida. To play it safe, most savy old salts do not go south of
Charleston before December.

Aye.
 
JamesTXSD":3f8isgpg said:
I understand Will's current "boatless" perspective. I helped a neighbor launch his Ranger 25 a few days ago... I pulled the trailer, rinsed it, and parked it in a permit site, then brought his truck back to his house (while he drove the boat around). Joan said to me, "There is nothing about what you did that I want to do again." I was still feeling like I was still a "sailor" of sorts, with a Hobie kayak (with a sail kit), a paddle kayak, and a stand-up paddle board. Haven't used them for a couple years, so I sold them all last week. I still check in on this site regularly, because it is like "family" (because of the people here).

I have said that I could do another boat... the Blonde says I'll have to do that with my next wife. So... options. :wink:
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Is launching a R25 significantly different than launching a C-dory?
 
Gavin17":b0fh6dk9 said:
Is launching a R25 significantly different than launching a C-dory?
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The Ranger 25 (diesel model) is heavier and draws more than the CD-25. As such, it needs to go in deeper to come off the trailer. Beyond that, it is just a matter of having the right equipment for the launch... most of it is similar: lines, fenders, get the boat in deep enough, start the engine, check for water flow - if you have two people for the launch: a solid stop to help ease the boat off the trailer and back off.

With our CD-25, we could launch pretty much any place someone would put in a bass boat. Every inch higher the boat sits on the trailer, you have to go close to a foot further back, depending on the slope of the ramp.

Our most recent boat was a 16' pontoon that weighed about 1/5 what our C-Dory weighed. But the fact that the pontoon sat above the trailer tires meant we had to put an extension on the hitch to launch that small pontoon at our home ramp where we launched the C-Dory. Because of that, it was more work to launch and retrieve the pontoon. The timing of the tide was good for launching my buddy's Ranger, but it has a longer tongue on the trailer than we had on the C-Dory.
 
I went bigger in order to do longer, more extensive cruising in decadent comfort. But while I looked at the newer offerings like the "tug" looking boats, I decided on a 1980's vintage Taiwanese trawler (at 1/10th the initial cost and operating expense). Yes, I have expenses in getting it ready for a long cruise. Also important, I kept my C-Dory. (Even more important, Beth hasn't complained about us keeping the C-Dory in the garage.) Our trawler isn't trailerable, so a completely different use. Sort of like owning both a motorcycle and and a pickup.

I suspect that a 35' trailerable boat would end up either sitting in a storage facility unused or sitting in a marina, where it is likely to see more use. If one were purchased for the "loop" and promptly sold when the loop was completed, I could see it being a okay idea. But it seems like it would be similar to the "manufactured homes" that I see going down the freeway with pilot cars front and rear. Yes, it is trailerable and could, in theory, be moved in the future, but . . .
 
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