windwalker
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Anybody know why the Honda 90 2008 and newer is not nmea-2000 compatible?
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nmea-2000 Hond 90 exclusion
- Thread starter windwalker
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journey on
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That's Honda. Everything about Honda is proprietary. And expensive. They sell a neat knot-meter with MPG on it, for $1000, and it's the only thing of its kind that plugs directly into their electronics. Check their accessory website.
My other complaint is that OB dealers are few and far between. The motor is great.
One other comment: please post pictures of your boat, especially it's surroundings in Alabama.
Boris
My other complaint is that OB dealers are few and far between. The motor is great.
One other comment: please post pictures of your boat, especially it's surroundings in Alabama.
Boris
windwalker
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I agree with what you are saying but almost all of Hondas other models are 2000 compatable
There is a very interesting thread on Panbo about the NMEA 2000 standard.
Certification is not easy, and the protocol is not all that easy either. There are still lots of mis-communications, especially when dealing with multiple manufactures.
It is interesting that the 90 was one of the last of the Hondas to go to fuel injection. It is also interesting that the 75 & 90 is about the only Hondas which are not NMEA 2000 certified.
The Honda Web site says that the 2005 on 90's can use the digital speedometer (which includes the fuel flow and management system). Has any one used the Honda fuel management system on the 2005/2006 carbureted engines?
Certification is not easy, and the protocol is not all that easy either. There are still lots of mis-communications, especially when dealing with multiple manufactures.
It is interesting that the 90 was one of the last of the Hondas to go to fuel injection. It is also interesting that the 75 & 90 is about the only Hondas which are not NMEA 2000 certified.
The Honda Web site says that the 2005 on 90's can use the digital speedometer (which includes the fuel flow and management system). Has any one used the Honda fuel management system on the 2005/2006 carbureted engines?
Kelly Lynn
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Concerning this topic, I own a 2007 Honda 75hp.
-What is NEMA 2000 certified mean?
-Does it pertain to my engine?
-If so what does that mean.
-What is NEMA 2000 certified mean?
-Does it pertain to my engine?
-If so what does that mean.
No none of the 75's are NMEA certified.
NMEA 2000 certified means that it will communicate with other NMEA readers and talkers on a specific CAN bus system (Controller Area Network hard wired bus). The NMEA is an organization which sets marine standards for electronics communication--the NMEA 0183 was an earlier (and many instruments use it still) protocol.
The NMEA 2000 is basically a modification of the SAE J1939 protocol for communication.(Society of Automotive Engineers). Thus used in many trucks. For example in my RV there are a number of these circuits. There are commercial (non marine) connectors and wiring, and many will work with the NMEA system.
Basically it allows your engine gauges to be displayed on the chart plotter. (For example--water pressure, water temp, oil pressure, RPM, fuel use, etc--depending on engine and what program is installed.
The rub is that it is fairly expensive to get a device NMEA 2000 certified--and this may decrease innovation. There are some other political (marine) implications. The big companies (Garmina, Furuno, RayMarine, Navico) embrace this-and for them 10 to 20 thousand dollars is peanuts. Not so for the guy with a soldering iron, computer and building stuff in his garage. The problem is that some companies are saying "NMEA 2000 Compatable" with out having the product certified...
NMEA 2000 certified means that it will communicate with other NMEA readers and talkers on a specific CAN bus system (Controller Area Network hard wired bus). The NMEA is an organization which sets marine standards for electronics communication--the NMEA 0183 was an earlier (and many instruments use it still) protocol.
The NMEA 2000 is basically a modification of the SAE J1939 protocol for communication.(Society of Automotive Engineers). Thus used in many trucks. For example in my RV there are a number of these circuits. There are commercial (non marine) connectors and wiring, and many will work with the NMEA system.
Basically it allows your engine gauges to be displayed on the chart plotter. (For example--water pressure, water temp, oil pressure, RPM, fuel use, etc--depending on engine and what program is installed.
The rub is that it is fairly expensive to get a device NMEA 2000 certified--and this may decrease innovation. There are some other political (marine) implications. The big companies (Garmina, Furuno, RayMarine, Navico) embrace this-and for them 10 to 20 thousand dollars is peanuts. Not so for the guy with a soldering iron, computer and building stuff in his garage. The problem is that some companies are saying "NMEA 2000 Compatable" with out having the product certified...
Kelly Lynn
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Thank you for the explanation. Just a curious thought. Would this have anything to do if I wanted to install a Honda Digital gauge.
windwalker
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Boris I purchased The Get Aweigh 2008 25 C-Dory from Jeff in Ohio a few months ago and am looking for a good online honda parts and accessories supplier if you know of one.
Kelly Lynn
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For parts try boats.net just bought a prop from them very reasonable. Quick service.