New owners / first impressions

Sea Gazelle

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First off, I'd like to thank all of the contributor's to this site for your variety of stories, advice, and general humility in the way you're willing to discuss the care and operation of your vessels. A donation to the operation of this site is a mere percentage of the savings we have accrued in time, money, and headaches.

Let me briefly introduce ourselves... My wife and I recently celebrated our 6th anniversary and decided now would be a good time to try something new and exciting that would both challenge us and open us up to new adventures. The original thought was to purchase a fishing boat and we quickly settled on the Arima to fulfill this purpose. After much research on the Arima boat-owners site, we kept running across discussion's of Arima vs. C-Dory. Being that I'm one to cover every angle prior to making such a big purchase, I began to research the benefit's of the C-Dory vs. Arima. Long story short, it didn't take too long to determine the C-Dory would be the boat for us! The versatility of the boat being the biggest selling point, in case the fishing hobby didn't work out or if one day the Seattle Times declared "Last Fish Caught in Puget Sound!", that we wouldn't be stuck with a fishless fishing boat and could then go about our cruising lifestyle. After a visit with "Salty" and her owner in Anacortes, we quickly decided the C-Dory was indeed our perfect solution.

Well, "our boat" came up for sale much more quickly than anticipated. Being that it was a mere 2100 miles away, a marine survey and water test was ordered. Everything checked out beautifully other than a "rough idle" condition that the mechanic thought a load of fresh fuel would cure. Before we knew it a 2006 22' Cruiser was sitting in our driveway.

Last weekend we trailered her over to the Columbia, just North of Wenatchee, for our initial run as we are familiar with the waters there. After topping off the tanks (one tank half of original fuel, the other 1/4 full, and adding SeaFoam and blue Stabil) we were on our way to the launch. My brother followed in his ski boat as we turned out of the marina. The Honda was extremely hesitant to come up out of idle, and my initial fear was that the carburator's needed at best a cleaning and worst a rebuild. After pushing on for a bit we were able to coax the engine into higher and higher rpm's, at one point reaching a top speed of 30 mph (downstream via gps monitoring) which is cheating a little. The hesitancy of the motor grew less and less, but we still would get "burps" every couple of minutes or so that would quickly drop our rpm's before catching again. I'm not much in the way of mechanically inclined, but it would seem to me that fouled carbs would behave in more of a consistent manner. Could it be the SeaFoam was doing it's job? But then why the occassional hiccup every couple minutes?

Ran her for about an hour, during which my wife proclaimed "I Love This Boat!!" Music to my ears! It seemed to me this boat must be the watery offspring of a Jeep / VW camper. The plan was to take her our for a long cruise the next day, Sunday. Sunday morning, getting her prepped for another run, I decided to drain the fuel/water separator bowl. My brother mentioned it would be a good idea to replace the filter and I quickly found a replacement accompanying the spare parts under the sink/stovetop. Went to remove the plastic bowl/drain assembly and the thing jams on me. The bowl grabs onto the threads of the old filter and holds tight. Thinking this is a job for another day, I attempt to reseat it and attach it once again. Start the motor with the rabbit ear flushing assembly, it runs for a couple minutes and then dies. Reprime, which takes forever, and the motor takes right off, runs again and dies. After a bit of troubleshooting I was able to see the orange o-ring of the drain/bowl had split and was allowing air to be pulled through the threads. Being that it was Sunday and we were a good 100 miles from any open marine store, we were stuck. A good lesson learned however, and I feel a bit better about my non-mechanically inclined troubleshooting skills.

I'll have our list of "newbie" questions later, but off to work for now!
 
I'm doing filters/bowls on my TC255 now. It's easiest if you use a metal filter wrench and take the entire filter off with the bowl still attached. Then, you can put the old filter in a big vise and carefully take the bowl off of it (using the filter wrench again).

Your problems sound a lot like air/fuel problems.

Congratulations on the "new" boat and welcome to the site!

Charlie
 
Welcome to the Brats! You are going to have so much fun with your boat, both using and tinkering. Hope you will get in the habit of attending CBGTs as well! That is a huge part of the experience for us.

Warren
 
Just like Charlie suggested - take the whole thing off with an oil filter wrench then put the metal bowl in a vice to get the actual filter off. When putting on the next one, just like a car oil filter, rub a little oil around the gasket and do not crank it down. It will seemingly tighten up over the course of the season.

If the fuel filter is really stuck on there (mine were the first time I went to replace them) the oil filter wrench may not allow you to get it off. I've only needed to do it once but I bought a monster tongue and groove plier that looks like this: http://www.acehardware.com/product/inde ... 8183200313

Mine is about 15 inches long and opens to the size of the fuel filter - these combined with a vice will get the filter off.


Air fuel and spark are the troubleshooting steps...you said it took a long time to prime the bulb...I would check your fuel tank air vents. Clogged vents can cause fuel flow problems.

Good luck and welcome aboard.
 
Thanks for the warm welcome!

Charlie/Matt - When the large o-ring on the bowl split, it actually gathered to one side of the bowl groove and acted as a jam. I was actually turning the threads inside the body of the filter. Picked up a new bowl and we're back up and running. If I can cut out the filter from the old bowl I'll have an emergency backup now. The long priming time was due to the air I was pulling in through the broken o-ring and was cured with the new bowl. Got the ring and gasket nice and lubed up this time, so hopefully won't be a recurring issue. Next tasks are to check plugs and fuel tank air vent. Hoping to get a good run in this Friday, so wish us luck!

Warren - We may be walking onto the ferry to see the gathering in Friday Harbor this Saturday. I'm very interested to see the various setups in person and hopefully to meet a few of you along the way. Thanks for the heads-up!

-Brad & Sheila
 
Brad & Sheila --

Welcome aboard. As a relative newcomer myself, I have found a ton of useful information on the site. However, I just wanted to warn you before you make a newbie mistake that nothing that starts with "sea" is allowed. If the name might start with sea, it must be converted to "C-" so Sea Gazelle must, by C-Dory rules, be rendered as C-Gazelle. Just saying... and just kidding as well. Enjoy the new boat.
 
Hi Jim - Yes, I'm aware of the "C-name" rule, but I figure if Sea Wolf has gotten away with it all these years that perhaps it's more of a "suggestion"...

Now when it come's to naming the boat it's a different matter. However, at this point it looks like I'll be working on removing the residue from the previous owner's decals for approximately the next 2 years, so plenty of time to think of an original C-name.
 
As far as I know, there is no rule about the letter "C" being in your boat name if you use the phonetic sound of "Sea". Witness "Sea-Shift", "Sea Pal", "Sea Wolf", etc. Some people think (us included) like the "C" link to the "C"-Dory", others choose something totally different. The only really important rule about boat names is that the boat must be christened using high quality greenery and libations otherwise Neptune/Poseidon will cause you to have rough rides wherever you go!! (and maybe let you see-sea-C the bottom of the C-sea-see :) )
 
Glad to C you got a nice boat. Welcome and enjoy! Going to Friday Harbor is a great start and for sure you will C many fun and interesting things.

Byrdman
 
Brad and Sheila,
Welcome to the neighborhood!


"C" or Sea ?

Actually the "Sea" in "Sea Shift" is more of a play in words for me....not so much in similarity to the "C" in "C-Dory" but in that we have three shifts at work...."A", "B", and "C" shift. I've always been on "C" Shift, therefore it was only appropriate for us to choose "Sea Shift". When my partners said, "what happens if you get transferred off of "C" shift?", I said the boat will always be my "Sea Shift".

(Additionally, when it came to the graphics in the name, I chose black letters to represent smoke and have flames underneath.....thereby achieving smoke over fire). :smilep
 
Welcome aboard. I have owned one boat with a "C" (Pelican)--and another which was already named "Frequent Sea"--never found out why, but I kept the name. Name your boat what you are happy with! Have fun!
 
Actually, as I noted, I was only kidding about the C vs Sea rule. However, Sea Wolf is not a good example regarding the rule. Ever see the picture of him with the 3 shotgun shells in his mouth and his shotgun? He gets to name his boat whatever he wants!!!!!!!!!! The picture surfaces here from time to time, most recently in the current C-Dory Theft Security thread.
 
Welcome aboard. I have owned one boat with a "C" (Pelican)--and another which was already named "Frequent Sea"--never found out why, but I kept the name. Name your boat what you are happy with! Have fun!

Hey Bob, your boat name always made sense to me.
I am surprised. Since you are a ham, I figured "Frequency" was a natural.
Dumb me.
Bill
 
Bill, The name "Frequent Sea" would make sense if the original owner was either a ham or electrical engineer. But he was a high school teacher, as I recollect social studies. I kept the name since I liked it.
 
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