New high (low?) for C-Dorys?

To our fellow C-Brats:

As you know R-Matey our 1993 22 Cruiser is For Sale. We paid $20,000 for the boat, motor and trailer. It ended up being a total rebuild. The restoration including the initial purchase has come to right at $38,800 (plus some). We have receipts for every part which includes a new motor, new trailer, new steering and on and on and on.....

What Joe got out of this was the pleasure of doing this restoration. For him boat work is not work.

We would like to remind our CDory-CBrat friends that it is quite unlikely that you will ever find a C-Dory sitting out in a back yard with grass growing through it as you often see with other makes and models.

As our friend George Hone once commented "As you walk away from your boat stop and turn around and say YES"

PS: Marine labor is over $100 an hour in some areas.
PSS: When we were in business we worked with many yacht brokers and we were told that a boat is worth what you get for it the day it is sold.

Joe and Ruth
R-Matey
(C-Brat #21)
 
Part of it to is if you can wait. I bought a 2008 Cdory 25 new in 2009 for 59900 pretty loaded up. Then in 2011 I also brought a 2009 Seaway 25 coastal Cruisers used it for a couple years and sold it for what. Paid for it. The recession was on. So if you are willing to wait until a recession kicks in or people that have over paid for their boats pick one up and have to sell it. Then pick one up.Cdory’s hold there value very well but if you wait good values are still out there.
 
duff":1k8zib18 said:
Part of it to is if you can wait. I bought a 2008 Cdory 25 new in 2009 for 59900 pretty loaded up. .

You got a very good deal on that C dory 25! I paid about twice that for a Tom Cat 255 in 2007.
 
Wow-interesting topic for me--I just drove halfway across the country and back to buy a boat that by many measures--cost per unit length, beam, displacement, horsepower etc, was priced above the local market. Notwithstanding which, I feel like I got a great deal. Logically, this is because the C-dory is unique as a trailerable, fast outboard cabin boat that almost no production boat can replicate. True. But if I am honest, as I look out my back door at the boat sitting under its shelter, I flat love the look. Especially the happy, smiling shear line. You got to figure out what in life makes you happy. I am happy on, cuising in, and just looking at the C-dory 22. Worth the cost.
 
qboat":1j0qvv90 said:
But if I am honest, as I look out my back door at the boat sitting under its shelter, I flat love the look. Especially the happy, smiling shear line. You got to figure out what in life makes you happy. I am happy on, cuising in, and just looking at the C-dory 22. Worth the cost.

Well said, I feel this way all the time as well!
 
One thing that has not been mentioned here is that the cost of boats has gone up for another reason. One President ago there was a high tariff placed on Aluminum from Canada. This not only raised the price of aluminum boats, but also cans of beer and coke. If aluminum boats go up in price, it also pulls fibreglass boats up as well. What happens when a President puts a tariff on another counties exports, that countries Prime Minister puts a counter tariff on the Presidents exports, which included all boats, Harley Davidson motorcycles and other products. Now, even when that President moves on, the next guy to sit in the chair doesn't necessarily remove his tariff and the PM will not drop his tariff until the other guy removes his. Ain't international politics fun.
 
Just today I was talking to the licensed marine surveyor that is well known here in the San Juan Islands and did the survey on C-Sharp before I moved her along. He liked the C-Dory's so much that he bought a 16 and just loves it. He uses it as transportation between the Islands instead of relying on the ferry system. He loves the fuel economy, ease of parking, and its ability to handle rough seas. Only downside is like we all face - frequently gets asked so many questions about it when at the dock!
 
R-Matey":3056udtr said:
To our fellow C-Brats:

We would like to remind our CDory-CBrat friends that it is quite unlikely that you will ever find a C-Dory sitting out in a back yard with grass growing through it as you often see with other makes and models.

(C-Brat #21)
There is an older 16 sitting on a storage lot with 10" mossy water sitting in. Sad.
 
Went to talk to a c-dory dealer about a 25 cruiser this December. With the stove, Frigerator, and anchor, and A 175 Suzuki plus trailer was looking about 175k.
 
serpa4":104a01hx said:
Went to talk to a c-dory dealer about a 25 cruiser this December. With the stove, Frigerator, and anchor, and A 175 Suzuki plus trailer was looking about 175k.

Add in electronics, at least $5,000 more. Dingy, motor, and davit--could be over $5,000, Inverter, microwave, more batteries. Taxes, depending on where you live, but add in at least 6%-close to $10,000 or maybe $12,000 or more. Do you have the 3/4. ton truck to tow it? Even without the truck, you can get to 200K very easily...
 
serpa4":785g4o73 said:
R-Matey":785g4o73 said:
To our fellow C-Brats:

We would like to remind our CDory-CBrat friends that it is quite unlikely that you will ever find a C-Dory sitting out in a back yard with grass growing through it as you often see with other makes and models.

(C-Brat #21)
There is an older 16 sitting on a storage lot with 10" mossy water sitting in. Sad.

A few years back when the Factory sold the last 16 through the line and ended that production line, I predicted that their value would go up. like a collector item. Well so did all the other CD values, but that 16 is still worth something and if I was in the neighborhood and had the skill, I would buy that in a heartbeat, drain and fix it and there would be a buyer waiting in line.

My boat is not for sale, but it is in prime condition, with new electronics and recently upgraded tandem trailer, and yes I have been asked how much I want for it. At 250K they quit bugging me. Maybe I'll wait.

Harvey
SleepyC

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Bought my C-Dory, sold her 7 years later for 5k more than I paid for her. New owner had her for a few years and I believe sold her on for a handsome profit.
If you are thinking about buying a C-Dory, buy it now. If you want to play a waiting game for prices to drop, you may be waiting a long time.
You only get one turn living on this planet with an unknown expiry date, buy it now.

Martin.
 
I don't remember now whether I paid $11K or $13K. It was over $10K because I didn't take cash into Canada in order to make my border crossing simple. I do remember that it is a 2004 CD 16 with a 2005 Yamaha 50hp. Thanks to the fog of time, I remember the various projects (including rot repair), creature comforts, and towing improvements, but not so much the time and expense. What I really remember is cruising Nootka Sound, Columbia River, Lake Yellowstone, etc. Money well spent, whatever it adds up to.

I just spent the last week in the Carolinas looking at the ICW. I just can't get excited enough to pull my CD across the continent to do the "loop." Seems that the grass isn't green enough on the other side.

Mark
 
Marco Flamingo":b3wxfkxk said:
... I just spent the last week in the Carolinas looking at the ICW. I just can't get excited enough to pull my CD across the continent to do the "loop." Seems that the grass isn't green enough on the other side.

Mark

I you start somewhere on the navigable part of the Missouri you don't have to drag it that far.
 
I noticed a picture of a TC255 at the Seattle Boat Show on the Facebook site with an invoice price of $289,783. And a SOLD sign on it. No $15,000 trailer. And no $80,000 truck. Granted, it had the joystick controls for docking that can cost up to $30,000 installed. IMHO that’s not needed…if I can dock widely spaced outboards with throttle-only steering then any other idiot can also do it with a bit of practice.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 066&type=3

Since Bob was happy to pay $120,000 for a naked TC255 in 2007, and 15 years later someone paid over $289,000 for one, I suppose in another 15 more years someone will be happy to pay $695,280 for one (check my math).

We happily paid $105,000 in 2013 for our 2010 model and consider the prorated cost of $10,500 per year to date over ten years of ownership to be a bargain (half that if we get another 10 years out of it, and even then it won’t have a value of zero on the market).

Our grand adventures exploring US and Canada waterways have been awesome. Wintering at a South Florida 5 star resort marina with three heated pools, free gym, sauna, 10 miles of walking beach and free margaritas on Tuesdays and Thursdays for $31/night is downright frugal compared to staying at home.

But 40 years ago, we also had a blast with trailer boat #1, a 15 foot Cobia. With three in the boat we could pop up a slalom skier in about 15-20 minutes or so. It was more fun than watching a waterboarding, but we were young and having fun. You should too!

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John
 
John. I wished I would have read your post sooner. Just raised my hull coverage on the C-Otter yesterday by $10,000 …….should have DOUBLED the value! Progressive had no problem raising the agreed value. 😊 Tom
 
I recently bought my 2018 cd venture 26. I was very excited to find one that was only a few hours from my house and decently priced, and almost perfectly optioned. I was amazed at how hard it was to find a cDory in Florida.

My job has me in California for 2 months right now. I went through the local boat storage lot and was surprised to see 4 of them on a small lot. I just assume since they're made up in Washington they must be really popular on the West Coast as opposed to the East Coast. In Florida I've probably been through 20 storage lots and 15 marinas and have never seen one. They seemed to be a dime a dozen out here in California.
 
The C Dory is not as rare in Florida as one might expect--but nothing like the number in Washington State. California has a fair number--you can check the "our C Dory" section and count the actual number per state. It is all there.

One caution about storing your C Dory on a storage lot in Calif. It is possible that you may get hit up for "personal Property Tax", which I believe is 3% of the local county assessor's perceived value of your vessel. This type of repressive taxing is only one of the reasons I left Calif. 30 years ago. But I have even had documented C Dory's taxed by local (Orange County) when at a storage lot. The hailing port was Pensacola, My address was in Pensacola, but the boat was indeed in Calif. Calif also charged me local/Calif. sales tax. They did accept my bill of sale for sales tax.. The county valued it at twice what I had paid for the boat. No give even when I presented the original bill of sale, which had been accepted by Calif. Franchise Tax Board.
 
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