New C-Dory purchase, meaning a new Triton...

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Karl

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I'm considering buying a 22-Cruiser, but have questions, and mucho reservations.

How much are these selling for new?
Maybe I missed it, but I did not find pricing info. on the official Triton website.

Also, something of major concern: "standard 5-year limited hull warranty"...

5-year hull warranties are no longer "standard" in the industry...10-year transferable warranties are becoming the norm, and many builders are even going way beyond that...mostly builders with all-composite construction, with no balsa coring, though.

Amortizing an expensive hull over a 5-year term leaves me anxious.
It would seem that Triton has little confidence in their own product, or else is just trying to limit future claims vs. sales revenue...bad taste in my mouth at this point.

Am I missing something with regards to purchasing a brand-new C-Dory?

I am willing to be educated...
 
Pricing is up to the dealers, and will vary tremendously based on options and power chosen, as well as shipping charges.

As far as the warranty, the construction on the C-Dory is well proven, and the boat is easy to examine and should hold up for many years. I would think any hull construction issues will present them selves in less than five years- much less.

Standard is refering to the fact it is included with the boat, and is no relation on what the industry is, or is not, offering.

But if you have a bad taste at this point, I don't know that there is anything that can be said to sweeten it. Either you examine the product and determine it will do what you want it to, or it doesn't, in which case the arranty won't matter.
 
Everything that matters on the boat (windlass, stove, pumps, engines, etc) has its' own warranty from the particular mfr.(and it's not 5 years!) The hull warranty is only useful if some part of the hull fractures or there is some problem in the layup. That will show up well before 5 years are over. I can only recall one instance where a cdory was completely replaced by the builder (before Triton, not sure which builder it was) and this was due to extensive osmosis blistering on the green hull. They gave them a new boat, which at the time, I thought was pretty generous.

With the new factory and what I have heard, I would have no compunctions (look it up) about buying new with a 5 year limited hull warranty.

That having been said, it's up to the buyer. The CDory is a unique boat.

Charlie
 
I appreciate the reply, but I still question why only a 5-year hull warranty is being offered. That to me is a "no-confidence vote" by the builder.

I have no local C-Dory dealer...closest from where I am in upstate NY would be either Long Island, or, New Hamshire, neither particularly do-able unless I purchase a trailer that I would never need again, or, hire a shipping company to deliver the boat to my pier. That situation would also leave me with little recourse for warranty-repair issues, too, I think.

What is a general "ballpark" selling price for this boat, with just base specs. and minimum Honda power? I may be able to eliminate it from my choices if I had even a vague idea of what it costs to purchase.
 
Hi Karl,

You'd be better off asking a dealer about price... I could tell you what I paid for a new 25 five years ago, but it would have no bearing on current prices. The best any of us could offer would be a wild ass guess. So... $55k to $70k... +/- $25k. :wink:

Having given you that (less than accurate) info, my C-Dory (an '07) came with the "standard" 5 year warranty. One issue with a rub rail install as far as the hull warranty was concerned, and that showed up right away. I fixed it because I am over 1,000 miles to the nearest dealer. Of course, that was two factory owners ago, so my warranty went away.

Bottom line: they're good boats. Triton knows how to build good boats. I wouldn't sweat the warranty, because you won't be "amortizing" the hull over 5 years. Your C-Dory will likely hold more of it's original value after 5 years than any of those boats with a longer warranty.

Just one guy's opinion, who has no connection with a dealer or the factory.

Good luck with your search.

Best wishes,
Jim B.
 
Karl":13a8di1p said:
What is a general "ballpark" selling price for this boat, with just base specs. and minimum Honda power? I may be able to eliminate it from my choices if I had even a vague idea of what it costs to purchase.
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I don't know but Marc (from Wefings, a dealer in Florida) just posted this in the "C-Dory Sales - Dealers" forum on this site:

We are also looking for an order for the Triton Marine guys in our area .They are doing a great job and we are willing and able to come up with great pricing on a brand new C Dory with that just popped from the mold sweet styrene smell !
Marc
850-670-8100
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Matt Gurnsey":2zgudi9v said:
Pricing is up to the dealers, and will vary tremendously based on options and power chosen, as well as shipping charge.
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Karl, pick a dealer, pick a boat, pick your options (power, electronics, etc_ and ask. You'll get a price. As Jim said above, to get a ball park without going to that trouble, pick a currently for sale boat of a newer year and extrapolate. (you probably know what that means too.. , thanks Jon, he asked to be "educated":wink: .)

If you don't like the 5 year warranty, pick another boat, that's Triton's warranty and I doubt they'll change it for now.

Charlie
 
Karl,

Another option for warranty is to negotiate with your dealer. Ask them to warrant the workmanship and materials for the same period of time that the factory offers. The worst they can do is say no.

That said, the guys at Triton have via their old Seasport line, a solid reputation for high quality.

Steve
 
Karl":3rmy0cgi said:
I appreciate the reply, but I still question why only a 5-year hull warranty is being offered. That to me is a "no-confidence vote" by the builder.

I have no local C-Dory dealer...closest from where I am in upstate NY would be either Long Island, or, New Hamshire, neither particularly do-able unless I purchase a trailer that I would never need again, or, hire a shipping company to deliver the boat to my pier. That situation would also leave me with little recourse for warranty-repair issues, too, I think.

What is a general "ballpark" selling price for this boat, with just base specs. and minimum Honda power? I may be able to eliminate it from my choices if I had even a vague idea of what it costs to purchase.
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Karl,

I suggest buying the boat that makes you the most comfortable. If that means a different manufacturer that backs the construction of the boat for longer, then you really should buy that one since it is very important to you.

Another reason if I were in your shoes to not buy a C-Dory is because you won't have dealer support in your area. As you pointed out, you will have to tow it many, many miles in the event something happens to it. And if it happens after 5 years, the bill is on you, as you are well aware.

As far as pricing, well that depends as others have pointed out. But, Master Marine in Bellingham just a short while ago was advertising some for around 50 thousand with a trailer, honda 90, and some other accesories. Here is a link. http://www.mastermarine.com/inventory.php

Personally, I am not going to push any boat onto. Buy the one that you want and feel comfortable buying. Have a good one :)
 
Karl

The Triton team has been building boats for quite some time, most of us here lost our hull warranties with the change in ownership. Am I worried about itheck now, they are well built boats and even better under the Triton ownership, so order up one and we'll see you on the water!
 
The closest dealer is a 4-hour drive from where I live, next closest is 4.5 hours...

So, probably no realistic warranty service would be available after purchase, unless Triton delegated service to other dealer networks...

Before I posted here asking about purchase price, I had called several C-Dory dealers, all out of my area, and none were willing to discuss prices except on a face-to-face basis...

I don't think I will tour the USA in search of a price-quote for a C-Dory...

The C-Dory product is obviously too exclusive for me (living in upstate NY) to even consider at this point.
 
I have been quoted this a few months back:

C-Dory Cruiser 22 – Yamaha 90hp fourstroke.

Options included:
EZ Loader galvanized tandem axle trailer.
Anchor windless with Delta Fastset anchor and rode.
Dual batteries with switch.
Wallace two burner cooktop and heater.
Interior stainless grab rail.
Shorepower system with charger.
Hydraulic trim tabs.
Raw water washdown system.
(1) additional electric wiper.

Total - $62,430. (Model year 2011 @ 2010 pricing)
 
Karl":lss24sen said:
The C-Dory product is obviously too exclusive for me (living in upstate NY) to even consider at this point.
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Sorry you feel that way Karl. Take a look at the BRAT Map at the top of the page and see how many folks don't feel that being a ways from a dealer is a downer.

Warranty work will generally be taken care of by the dealer you bought it from and many times the factory (at least in the past, you might ask Triton what their policy is) will authorize you to get warranty work done locally, by any reputable marine repair place, on their nickel. That is IF you even need warranty work. Generally, all of the things that will come up that are serious and beyond the minimal "fixit type" things occur during the sea trial, if you do a good one (we can help you with a check list) and will be taken care of before you take the boat home.

Nerds, I'd like to see a poll to see how many folks have had to have warranty work done on a new boat even with the old CD Builders, and if they have, if they were satisfied with it. I suspect the percentage will be low for those that needed it, as most of us are handy with boats and, unless it's a major item, we "do it ourselves", it's a learning tool too!

Don't give up Karl, these are great boats.

On edit, just looked at all of your 67 posts since April 2008. For goodness sakes Karl, you've lost 2 1/2 years of boating. C-Dory or another brand, buy something and get out on the water, time's a'waisting! :lol:

Charlie
 
We bought our new Tomcat earlier this year when there was no hull warranty. I couldn't be happier with the boat. It's the best boat I've ever owned and I hope it's the last boat I ever buy.
 
Karl, I also wanted to chime in on the warranty issue.

For me, the reputation of the builder and my relationship with the dealer are more important than the extra 5 years you were hoping for on the warranty. The Triton folks have a great reputation and they know how to build boats (they used to build SeaSport boats).

But if you are still concerned about it -- go to the factory and talk with them. See how they build the boats. That might put your mind at ease.

And here is another thought. I have only been around the C-Brats form for a couple of years, but I have read just about every post here. I have never seen a post about anything other than little annoying things (like the TomCat's damn leaky fishboxes I complain about at any opportunity).

What I have never seen is a post about a serious hull issue that would have pointed to a manufacturing problem.

I would also add this: If Triton built a 30-35ft raised pilothouse powercat with 12-14ft beam, and a smaller cockpit, I would sell my TomCat and buy the larger boat from them without hesitation - even with a only 5-year hull warranty.

Oh Triton, are you listening?

:)
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mike
 
Karl - I second this, buy your boat from Marc at Wefings in Florida, have it delivered. Triton is building great boats now, Wefings is a great dealership. If you are going to buy a boat, a Triton C-Dory from Wefings is going to be a top-notch deal. A five year hull warranty is not a "vote of no confidence." If the time is right, go for it!

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Karl":c03lmdgp said:
What is a general "ballpark" selling price for this boat, with just base specs. and minimum Honda power? I may be able to eliminate it from my choices if I had even a vague idea of what it costs to purchase.
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I don't know but Marc (from Wefings, a dealer in Florida) just posted this in the "C-Dory Sales - Dealers" forum on this site:

We are also looking for an order for the Triton Marine guys in our area .They are doing a great job and we are willing and able to come up with great pricing on a brand new C Dory with that just popped from the mold sweet styrene smell !
Marc
850-670-8100
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Karl, it looks to me as if you're making it clear why one wouldn't buy a C-Dory. Just out of curiosity, what do you plan to buy? Or are you selling?

Boris
 
Hey Karl,

Most of us have gone through some angst in buying a boat. I'm not sure what you mean about C-Dorys being "exclusive", but if you are looking for a cabin type boat that can handle all kinds of weather, is trailerable, and reasonably economic to run, there isn't much else out there that's comparable.

Since there isn't a C-Dory dealer in every area, you may have to do a bit more leg work. That isn't exclusive, it's the fact that these are niche boats. It's worth a little extra work (and sometimes distance) to bring one home.

So, I'd encourage you to not give up so fast. I can understand a dealer not wanting to just give you a number over the phone... call 4 dealers, pick the one who gives you the lowest price, and you're done. That might work for cars or Bayliners, but there are LOTS of options on these boats. Most dealers don't have these boats in stock. You work with them to order it the way you want. The dealer may be the one who does the motor rigging and electronics.

It took me months to get to see one of these boats... and it was old and skanky. Then more months before I got on a plane to go to the Seattle Boat Show to get to see what a brand spankin' new one looks like. Then more months to get the boat built. And it was worth it.

No offense intended, but it seems as though you came into this thread with a chip on your shoulder regarding the warranty. Five years is good; more than enough. If a longer warranty is your main objective, then you'll have to look elsewhere, because the manufacturer sets that. Most of us go in search of a boat with the consideration of what the boat will do, how it will perform, and how we will use the boat. Then determine if it is within our budget. Then, find a place to buy it from where you feel comfortable. Then (and this is the important part), go use the boat.

The warranty is just an "insurance policy" that covers you in the case something on the boat isn't built the way it's supposed to be. And the right dealer is someone who will be in your corner to help insure that. With today's economic climate, no warranty is a "for sure" just as no one can predict that any business will be able to stay afloat.

When the factory folks we bought from tanked, our warranty went away. It has had no affect on our enjoyment of our boat. Hope you find the boat and dealer that works for you.

Best wishes,
Jim B.
 
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