Name Calling

Jazzmanic":26g1fqrw said:
I guess the jerk was lucky not to have run into Tom. :) Sounds like we've got some tough guys on this board.

Seriously Carl, you did the right thing. I've been in situations where I was frustrated for not responding to situations immediately but when all is said in done, it's the mature, clear-thinking guy who has the guts to refrain from being goaded into something that in all liklihood would lead to something bad.
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The salmon know Starcraft Tom has a knockout blow
 
Sarge - The response you demonstrated is precisely what is still right about our society, and the reason there is still hope for it. Thank you, and thanks for telling us about it. It is a lesson big enough to be learned by us all.

Tom - Whatever credibility you may have had with your first paragraph was pretty much shot a few sentences later with your narcissistic and stereotypical rant concerning trailers, Walmart and sisters. Kind of like that guy in the bar.
 
You did the correct thing, at least initially. But you have let it bother you. Just rack it up to life, and smile about it.

As for starting a fight--in the long run you loose, or at least run a substantial risk of loosing. To fight for your life, or the life or safety of your familly/country, is an entirely different matter.

I would hope that if this country was faced by a moral delimma (and we may yet be) there are enough people who will do the right thing...
 
thataway":25fcpnxs said:
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I would hope that if this country was faced by a moral delimma (and we may yet be) there are enough people who will do the right thing...
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Bob, I like your thinking, but a variation of one of the basic laws will kick in here...

Peabody's postulate: Murphy is an optomist!
 
DaveS":4ag40xsk said:
Sarge, your response was most appropriate and admirable. Unfortunately, too many folks watch TV and expect that getting into a fight means nothing more than a black eye, a bloody nose, a bruised ego and they walk away from it. Unfortunately, that is not always the end result in a fight. In the years in my line of work I've come to the assistance of the "losers" and the "winners" in these fights and some of them have incurred physical and mental deficits that they have to "live" with for the rest of their lives. Additionally, I've arrived on the scene of these "fights" to find individuals that have quickly succumbed to their injuries and after investigation are transported to the morgue. (The majority of these fights have been over very trivial matters).

Even though you are a former law enforcement officer and trained to inflict pain and to protect yourself, you are also well aware that the "insulting" individual could have been packing iron which rapidly makes a confrontation one sided.

Consider the old adage...."don't take a knife to a gun fight".

The advice to pick your battles are certainly applicable in this and in all cases. This event was certainly an insult that wouldn't warrant the time of day had it occurred to me. However, there are certain actions that if they occurred against my family or me would be dealt with most expeditiously.

Most military training (certainly mine) was not how to "fight" but how to "terminate" an individual. That being said if you enter into an altercation, use your training to its' fullest extent and plan on ending it in your favor.

Peace, Brother..... :wink
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X2!!!!!!!!!

I have been caught out in truly bad weather that I would never go out in. I TRY to be a fair weather boater. It doesn't always work out that way. That bozo has probably been watching too much TV, and he thinks anyone can go out and survive North Sea storms in a 22 foot boat. He would probably get seasick in the bay. It is hard to ignore jerks like that, but in the long run, they are worthless.

Good for you. Being in LE, you couldn't have responded without negative ramifications.
 
Mike I was just trying to make a funny based on another post. I shop at wal -mart if I have to. if you do want a good laugh you can go to a face book account called "people of wal-mart" or something to that effect. Lots of good funny pictures.

I don’t want folks to get the idea that I go around starting fights. I have not been in a fist fight in years, but I have been in them. Just engaging rude people like the one in this case and demand a apologue will most often get one out of them. And it may keep them from doing the same stupid actions against others.

I was trying to enjoy a meal a few years ago when James was young. James was sitting in his seat and eating and enjoy his meal as I was. Two other children where running around and playing in the walk way while their useless mother yakked on and on about god knows what and completely ignoring then. I rounded up the boys and placed them in seats with their mothers. The mothers protested, which I ignored, but they kept the kids in their seats until James and I left. The waitress thanked me and my only commit was “if you did your job I would not have had to” We just have to call people on their bad behavior. Yesterday Susan told the kids across the street to take their little brother in the house and not to come back out until he has shoes on, he was running around in his socks, and they did. If Susan had not spoken up they would have let them run around until his mother found out and punished all of them.

Like I said this is how I was raised and I would never have called a guy a pussy in front of his kids and family for fear other others jumping my ass over it. It was just not allowed.
 
Ya, I do not fish as well and get name calling all the time out of Seward Alaska. When they ask me what I am doing (including USCG & Troopers) out in the ocean, I point to the top of my boat, and say, "See da surf boards on top of da Boat, lets go catch some triple overhead waves bra" usually shuts them up, for good...

When dudes catch fish, I guess they feel like a real cocky man, when I do catch fish, I am humbled, and respectful for what the ocean has given me, and do my best to pick up the ocean trash usually dumped by the disrespectful "Name Calling" fisherman....
 
dotnmarty":1askl5y0 said:
Sarge":1askl5y0 said:
What kind of person feels entitled to ruin another person's day.........
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I don't know the answer, but it's a damn good question. Good people have been asking it, well, for as long as there have been good people.
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He's a punk and will one day say something similiar to the wrong person. Karma's a bi*#h.
 
Sarge,

Bozos like that can be really irritating and the temptation is always there to slap them down. At the Sequim gathering some guy sucking on probably his tenth beer motored by the dock in his skiff and yelled out to all of us standing there: "F..ing pussies". I'm not sure what he was trying to prove. Maybe he doesn't like anything but tin skiffs. Who knows. My inner cave man said I'll just get into my boat and go sink him...that'll teach him not to F..k with us chest pound! chest pound! I did yell that we didn't appreciate his language but by doing so I was just playing his game. I'd have been a lot more effective calling out to "enjoy your boating" and watching his limited mind trying to figure out just what I meant. Getting into a confrontation over some guy's "I'm macho and you're not" chest thumping can, as you well know, quickly get out of hand. Sure there are times when intervention is the necessary thing, for example, there was a news story a few days ago about a sixty something man who walked over to a woman and her crying two year old girl in a store and slapped the child in the face twice saying "If you won't quiet her down I will". Had that been my child....I'm not sure how far I would have gone but pretty far and pretty fast. But to me, most of the time guys like the one who just had to prove to you how much more of a man he was are just demonstrating their own weakness and limited abilities. I've found they just hate eye to eye contact, a smile, and an "enjoy yourself" response. They just don't know how to cope with someone who doesn't play by their rules.
 
In rare [and extreme] cases the bozos get what they deserve:

No charges will be filed in the fatal shooting of a 25-year-old Olympia man at Lake Wynooche.

Grays Harbor County Undersheriff Rick Scott told KXRO the prosecutor ruled the Aug. 30 shooting a justifiable homicide in self-defense.

Scott said the investigation found that after consuming a large amount of alcohol, Westin Wolff went for a walk along Lake Wynooche and stumbled into the campground of Gary Bowers of Port Orchard.

Bowers was camping with his wife and children and ordered Wolff out. Wolff returned a short time later armed with a machete.

Ignoring several warning shots into the air, Wolff advanced on Bowers, who fired the fatal shot.
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http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2009/sep/09/shooting-involving-po-man-at-lake-wynooche-ruled/

You still did the right thing in ignoring the idiot. I related the story of the guy in the red pickup at the Everett dock; same mentality. When he called my wife a very insulting four letter word it took all of the personal control I had to not walk over there and shove something up his...you get my point.
 
Hi,
I don't remember who came up with this but it goes back to most people know right from wrong at about 7 or eight years old.
"STICKS AND STONES WILL BREAK MY BONES BUT NAMES WILL NEVER HURT ME". comes to mind.
It pretty well covers it. Sooner or later some other eight ball will bump heads with this charactor. Size 52 shirt and size two hat sums it up.
D.D.
 
Sarge":1uqd8iz9 said:
t really bothered me, and obviously continues to bother me.
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There are times when I am actually glad that I am deaf and do not hear these types of insults -- although I do pick up on a few of them just from body language. I have never been in a fight as an adult and hope I never have to get in one. But when I have time to re-examine my feelings after being insulted, and not responding, I almost always feel glad that I took the high road in how I dealt with the situation. The only thing a fight would resolve is who is the better fighter, not who is the better man.

Warren
 
Bet this thread could go on forever and a lot of us old f--ts could relate a lot of war stories.
I took pride in a couple occasions when I laughed at the guy that insulted me and turned away from him to ignore him.( Younger days that would not have happened) Then got sunday punched. Moral of the story is: sometime we must fight in self defence. After 911 is a good example. What else are we to do.

Ps That fight I won but ended up with a boken hand, so did I really win? His head healed much faster and didn't cost him anything.

There is an old saying " don't mess with old people cause they will just kill you." They can't take a beating

captd
 
Sarge,
Hopefully, at least for this site, this will be my last post on this subject. I'll try to keep it P.G. I have been called a pussy on a number of occassions. Tough to admit of course, but true. Fortunately it has been mostly done by my wife and friends in what I thought was (and still do) a joking almost affectionate manner, rough crowd no joke.
Now if a certain adjective that begins with F was proceded by the term pussy this certainly would be cause for action, a throw down (confrontation, fight)? Or maybe, a question, I'm so sorry I didn't get your name or jeez thats a really nice t-shirt, or have a nice life. My point here is at least on the east coast being called a pussy is almost a term of endearment. Since your post states no adjective preceded the term your good! Work on your bucket list, do something you always wanted to do, something that will really put a smile on your face. Take my advice, I won't be using it. :smile
D.D.
 
Sarge - You were the mature adult there. :thup
Capt and Warren - Your comments are on target.

In the early 70's, I failed the NYPD physical by a 1/4". I did not meet the height requirement of 5' - 8" - no longer used.

On my 60th physical, I was measured at 5' - 5 1/2". All my life I've felt the need to defend my "small" stature from insecure people. It seems I was one of them. :(
It took a good wife and raising a family to help me change my attitude. :idea

I was a amatuer boxer for 8 years, so I know how to use my hands.
My nose still takes a right turn from a sucker punch thrown after a bar fight, I thought I won ,was broken up. Does anyone really win? Nope !

StarcraftTom - I thought a lot about responding to your comments. I feel like I have to say something.

I agree with many of your thoughts deploring the lack of decorum in today's society. I just can't agree with your suggested remedies. Your actions dealing with those children in the diner was intolerable. Would you have done the same thing if their fathers were there? The fathers response might have been different and would surely have lead to escalating the situation.

People who feel the need to enforce their standards in proper behavior scare me. I don't know what their limit is as to how far they are willing to go to enforce them.

I don't want to stand on a soap box and condemn you because I'm not perfect and am not God.

Most of those commenting here are supportive of Sarge's actions, as am I grudgingly.

Allan
 
Once again, thank you all for responding.

Maybe I think too much, but I read a quote today that I thought was fitting for this subject matter and the thoughts already expressed.


"As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore." - Rev. Nathan Baxter.
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