Marine head in CD22' & IR camera on boat.

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nesibus

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Has anyone installed or do you know if the dealer will put in an actual head that lets you pump out?


Another mod I'm considering...is mounting an IR camera with IR illuminators on top the boat so I can hook it up to an LCD monitor in the boat, this will give me a good lit view of down the river...or the shoreline depending on where I point the camera. I'm not one for relying on natural night vision, my eyes will not see obstacles in the water. PLus...its just safer to have the waterway lit up.
 
I added a separate head to the port side at the back of the salon. I used a Sealand Self-contained toilet (M28 model) that has a holding tank built into the base. It uses fresh water from your tank. I have the option of pumping overboard or at a pump out.
I removed the dinette seats as well as the table and under table storage. The front seat was reversed to make a navagator's seat and the water storage tank was placed within. The fresh water system was converted from foot pump to electric pump. I put a port in the wall with a pull down shade and thus have lost almost no visibilty aft. Instead of a door we have a privacy curtain on a track.
For my wife and I, it has made the boat much more usable. We often stay in marinas for a night or two. I put in a 2.5 gal hot water tank and a 13,500 BTU Duotherm Penguin A/C. We now have all the amenities. I guess I should add, we are relatively small folks.
I had photos on my web site following the building process. I'm not sure what I did with those pictures. If you would like, I can take some pictures of the finished product and try to post them next week.
 
I would do a lot of real research on the infra red cameras before plunking down the money. These are very expensive. Some of the Nordhavn's have them. There are three going down the West Coast currently, and they got to try them out in fog--couldn't see any further than the bow of the boat--no better than visual.

There are some really nifty photos in the ads, but these are under ideal conditions. The good units start at about $8,000. To put serious IR illuminators which will cover any distance is another expense. We have IR in our security system, and it is good for about 150 feet--this is a high end camera and IR, the "usual" are good for 50 or so feet. You are not going to be light up the water way. The other dissapointment is that logs and items which are the same temperature as the water (ie dead heads) do not show up well.

Once you start looking at an LCD moniter, what night vision you have goes down hill--and is not available to see dim running lights and other items.

The FLIR may be justified in some large and expensive vessels with a dedicate crew member, but I would not consider on in the C Dory. I do occasionally use a night scope--but again, unless you go with high dollar unit, it will be limited, plus there will be loss of night vision.
 
well....not exactly.....I'm not talking about thermal imaging, I'm talking about plain ol' Infrared light with a camera built to see it.......I already own the system, so I know it works...I'm just putting it on the boat.

You have to spend a little bit of money but not $8000(cause thats for (Thermal Imaging)....$700 gets you a great IR cam with a 350ft range, $400 gets you 2 IR illuminators that have about the same range, but basically provide a flood of IR light...and yes...they do reach that distance, the cheap cameras do not.

True FLIR(thermal imaging) for me is pointless...for one....the tubes burn out too fast...and its at least $10000 for a marine version. Thermal imaging does not provide the image quality I want....so I'm going with IR...and you would see the log in the water with IR...cause its not a thermal image which just detects heat.
 
Nesibus, could you share with us the camera and the IR illuminators--for example an Internet link. Also could you post a screen shot of the moniter showing this camera at 350 feet (incidently 350 feet is not a long distance on the water at night. I still wonder if you can see logs in the water. True since you are not going with FLIR, the temperature is not important, but I had trouble seeing logs during the day in the PNW, because they are often just at the surface of the water.

Incidently one of my cameras was $450, not quite as expensive as your $700 unit, but not a "cheap" IR camera. So I have some experience with IR cameras.

Thanks,
 
I have one of the "cheap" image night scopes (nite owl)--it is usable--but grainy image, not sharp. The IR illuminator is only good for about 15 feet. If I was really serious about a hand held, I would consider a generation 2.5--such as the Fujinon PS910 Night Vision Monocular #NFPS910 $1,650.00. It is very significantly better than the $195 units. But I don't consider it worth the cost at this point.

The unit I have at home is a color TV camera by day, plus an IR black and white camera at night, and is one of 8 hooked into my security system, with hard drive recorder and internet access. I had hoped that the IR which was described as being good at 150 feet would be adequate--it was not, so I added a security light which illuminates the area I wanted covered.
 
OK -- I have looked through the generation 1 - 3 units, what you're describing is completely different in your computer IR system.

Generation 1 handheld is grainy but quite usable as stated and I may pick up one of the better units as well for the odd shrimper running with no lights (happens all the time).
 
The night vision scopes use an light amplification system. The home system is a camera which has a wide F stop and a camera sensor which is sensitative to IR. In fact most camera sensors are very sensitative to IR and even have an IR cut filter over the CCD or Cosmos sensors to decrease the IR absorption and contamination. But these are not "starlight" cameras. They require IR illumination of some forum.
 
I have one of those old Russian starlight field glasses that I carryon the tug..lots of times I am out late and have a really hard time finding my mooring upon returning.... they work just great... I think they are only 2X but for what I am using work about right.... I think I paid about $300 for them .....They are real clear and do all that is needed... sometimes I take them to the dump to see the bears at night... it;s fun.

Joel
SEA3PO
 
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