Marine Grade 12 Gauge

Minnow,

Like you, I grew up shooting an 870. One of my big complaints about the older models is that they will allow a round to slip back into the firing mechanism if you do not get it passed the catch in the magazine. If that happens, then you have to knock the drift pins out with a punch (or nail...), remove trigger assembly, remove the round and then reassemble. PITA!!!!

I don't know if this is still a problem, but the shotguns made in the 60's had it, and I hated it. I even had an Oregon Fish cop jam the gun for me when he was checking magazine capacity. I am glad he was a friend of the family, as there were some words exchanged about intellectual abilities of fish cops.

Steve
 
I'm a BIG remingon fan. I have extensive experience with the Mossberg 500 and honestly can't stand it. Benelli's are GREAT guns, well built and accurate, but awfully expensive. Oh, and being a semi-auto you don't get the emotional satisfaction of cycling it :lol: . Stainless has certainly proven to be the way to go in a marine environment, as I'm sure any of the ex-Navy crowd will attest.

I intend to mount a 12 ga. rack in the V berth and keep it loaded with rifled slug, not scattershot. It's more for sharks than anything. I also carry a M1911, but that's different :wink: .

McMike
 
My 870 has never had that problem. Late '80s Wingmaster.

Wandering Sagebrush":2b5befpn said:
Minnow,

....One of my big complaints about the older models is that they will allow a round to slip back into the firing mechanism if you do not get it passed the catch in the magazine. If that happens, then you have to knock the drift pins out with a punch (or nail...), remove trigger assembly, remove the round and then reassemble. PITA!!!!

I don't know if this is still a problem, but the shotguns made in the 60's had it, and I hated it.

Steve
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McMike":3uf5ionz said:
My 870 has never had that problem. Late '80s Wingmaster.
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In the later '70s I shot skeet with my 12, 20, 28 & .410 870s and never encountered nor heard of this problem either.

Warren
 
McMike":9b291xqy said:
Benelli's are GREAT guns, well built and accurate, but awfully expensive. Oh, and being a semi-auto you don't get the emotional satisfaction of cycling it :lol: . Stainless has certainly proven to be the way to go in a marine environment, as I'm sure any of the ex-Navy crowd will attest.
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Agreed they are fantastic designs, and quality for the price is tough to beat. I've got a Montefeltro that is a dream to shoot and carry.

But the Benelli mentioned earlier (Nova) is a pump. And much as stainless is nice, it doesn't hold a candle to composites with respect to corrosion resistance. I've no personal experience with the Nova, but it's got a pretty loyal following.

Here's a link to a long discussion comparing it to a Remington 870, with input from many people who have owned or used both. My take is, there's debate about which is better for hunting. But with respect to quality, design and corrosion protection, there is very little bad to be said about the Benelli.

I'd sure take a close look at one, were I in the market for a boat gun.
 
I've been thinking about a Mossberg Mariner. Reasonable price, compact for the boat with the hand grip(but hold on tight), good quality, good for both home & boat defense.
 
For a hunting pump shotgun, I prefer the Model 12 Winchester. I have one in 20 ga and one in 12 I bought used in the early 70's. I think since then, I have shot more birds with the 20 including ducks before steel shot than any other shotgun I own. I've had 870's and currently have the marine 12 ga because I don't want to put my Mod 12 through the punishment of salt water. I thought about an aftermarket teflon treatment from Brownell's, but decided my Model 12 was just fine the way it was. The 870 is just not the same gun as a Model 12 and given a choice of either for hunting, I would always pick the Model 12.
 
Well Blow Me Down :crook
I just did a search for Winchester and found the company seems to have gone down the tube. :disgust It was put up for sale and seems to have disappeared as an entity from there. I have a Stainless Marine 12ga. Riot gun and the plating is starting to peel on the receiver. I was hoping to get some information as to what could be done to repair it. John Wayne is probably spinning in his grave. :cry

Jack
 
I think the Winchester line of firearms is now owned by FN (common name Browning) while the ammunition line is produced by another company and may still be a part of Olin Corp.

Winchester is probably like ATT, while the parent can't be found any more, the name will always be around.
 
Thanks Warren,

That one helped a little... :thup Still can't find my gun listed anywhere. :sad It's 30 years old. The only thing even close is a Mod.1300. I must have something around here that gives a model number of some kind...There is none on the gun, just the ser.no. and Winchester Stainless Marine 12GA.
:smiled Jack
 
Bond makes a .45/410 twin cylinder derirnger that will fit in your back pocket. You can buy barrells for lots of calibers too. Not that I approve of concealed weapons of course but for emergency its small enough that its not a pain to carry around. Stainless too. I'm saving up for one, $359 Michael
 
mwilson":3l2dqokv said:
...Not that I approve of concealed weapons of course
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What's wrong with concealed weapons? You know that LESS THAN 1% of gun-related crime is committed by permit holders, and that if a permit holder had not been present when that nutcase walked into a church in Colorado a few months back it would have been another senseless tragedy? In the case of multi-victim public shootings it has been proven repeatedly that, unless the police just happen to be there, the ONLY defense, and the only chance that innocent victims have, is a permit holder in the vicinity.
 
I am mounting a cannon up on the bow. It will be remote controlled. I should be able to sink any one of you suckers before you even get a shot off.
It just looks like a spot light.
 
McMike":3b8ntve0 said:
mwilson":3b8ntve0 said:
...Not that I approve of concealed weapons of course
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What's wrong with concealed weapons? You know that LESS THAN 1% of gun-related crime is committed by permit holders, and that if a permit holder had not been present when that nutcase walked into a church in Colorado a few months back it would have been another senseless tragedy? In the case of multi-victim public shootings it has been proven repeatedly that, unless the police just happen to be there, the ONLY defense, and the only chance that innocent victims have, is a permit holder in the vicinity.
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Let's stop things right there - I'm not about to watch a gun control debate on these forums.

Let's all stick to the topic at hand, or I'll lock this sucker up faster than a speeding bullet. Pun intended.
 
Capital Sea":2xypijof said:
I am mounting a cannon up on the bow. It will be remote controlled. I should be able to sink any one of you suckers before you even get a shot off.
It just looks like a spot light.
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Now, just to be clear...a Cannon debate is perfectly acceptable here.

Me - I prefer Scottys.
 
I have kept a Mossberg 500 on board for over 20 years--and a number of tens of thousands of miles, including a number of ocean crossings. As long as it is kept well cleaned and greased there is minimal corrosion. I consider this a "throw away" weapon. But, I don't consider it a "carry" weapon.
 
Below are some pics of Soapy Joe's Equilizer :x . This is a M6 Scout, Springfield Armory from Geneseo, IL. It is a .22 Hornet over .410 Shotgun. All Stainless steel and holds 12 .22 rounds & 4 .410 rounds in the stock. 18-1/8" barrel length w/an overall length of 32". Has a flip sight that is open v on one side for the .410 and peep sight on the other side for the .22 hornet. Breaks down in about 1/4 second with one pin to a storage length of 18". Also has hole at end of barrel to attach a bayonet :amgry. Just loved the fact it was small, light, stainless, cheap, and 3 weapons in one :lol: Great to have in a boat, R.V. or airplane. I actually got the idea from a friend who is a pilot and got one to carry in his Cessena 182 when he took a trip to Alaska. You can see up close pics in my photo album.

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The Remington 870 has been one of the most reliable actions for a shotgun out there today. It is probably the most common shotgun in use by law enforcement and the military. I have an old 870 express (dull bead blasted finish) I have used for hunting Ducks in salty environments. It has definately lost some of it's original (lack)luster dull bead blast finish, but after numerous salt baths and being caked in salty mud, has not rusted or blistered, nor have I had any trouble with the action. I used to work in a gun store where all three were sold, and my nod would go to the Remington. -Dan
 
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