Looking to buy new cdory

Greenportruss

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I live on Long Island, NY and have seen pictures of cdorys. They look like the perfect boat; seaworthy styling, large cabin for size (cruiser), economical etc. My biggest problem is that the closest dealers to me are in NC and NH which makes it inconvenient to sea trial and is of concern for potential warranty issues. My thinking is to have one (22' cruiser) direct shipped to a known local marina for rigging/outfitting; my understanding from corporate is that they can do this. This will help me as dealing with a known dealer for non-hull warranty problems and my understanding from corporate is that they will sanction a close-by dealer should boat warranty arise. My other concern is that I've never been on a cdory to just see how they "ride and handle". While fairly forward of me, I am wondering if any local 22' cdory owner would allow me to take a quick ride with them just to see how I like the boat----preferably around Long Island, CT or RI. Other general questions: can a 115hp tow a <200lb water skier, how wide/long is boat on trailer (storage limitations), 2 vs 4 wheel trailering...I'll moor boat and would like a more maneuverable 2 wheel trailer for storage, necessary size for kicker motor (5,6,8,9.9 I already have a 6hp), any recent problems with balsa wood transom..Ive read about this in the past and how many $$ am I looking at for a fairly well equipped boat? ALL RESPONSES ARE APPRECIATED. THANKS, RUSS.
 
The 22 cruiser bare weighs about 2000 lb then whatever else you put on it
1-motor 360-400 lb for a 90-115 hp
2-trailer 800-1200 lb depending on tandem or single axcle or galvanized or aluminum
3-windlass, electronics ,radio's ,life jackets ,stove, fishing gear ,fridge etc, etc ,etc maybe 400-600 lb

So your looking at a light cd 22 at about 3500 lb - 4500 lb depending on how you want it, to tow down the road.

They do make single axcle for 4000 lb load of boat ,motor and gear .We had a 22 cruiser that weighed in at 3800 lb going down the road .That was set up for very light cruising no kicker very little gear and my other friend had one that weighed in at over 5000 lb that was on a trailer ready to go
 
Russ, Welcome aboard!

I believe that the transoms are foam--My 2006 boat has a foam transom. Any cored hull of any sort, should have the holes drilled slightly oversized, then core material routed out for about 1/4 to 5/16" around the hole, with thickened epoxy. This prevents any core water intrusion, and crushing of the laminate as core is compressed.

The factory shipping direct does undercut the dealer network--but they certainly have done this in the past--and any really good marine shop can rig a boat, and handled warrantee work. In the past I have done my own--so I knew it was done correctly, and took less time than trailering the boat many miles to a dealer.

There are several 22's and 23's in your area--I suspect that one will offer you a ride. I don't know how up to date the C Dory Map is--but that is one source--and ask for a ride. Most owners are always happy to give one.

Of course a C Dory can tow a 200 lb water skier. I have water skied a number of times behind a 25 hp outboard. The Chris Craft I learned to ski behind had only 60 hp. I have towed my grandkids in tubes--others have towed skiers.

Do remember that the boats are "semi Dorys" That means that there is little deadrise--they do take getting used to, for going into chop--on the other hand, one likes to have smooth water for Skiing.

My current 22 came with a 5200 lb rated trailer single axle. The tongue broke going down the road--I was near the load limit. Most C Dory's are gong to come in closer to the 4500+ point on the trailer. We now have a tandem axle trailer rated for over 6500 lbs--no more difficult to maneuver--we park it in a space 10 feet wide, after backing in about 150 feet, with a gate only 10 feet wide, about 25 feet in front of where I park my two boat trailers. My other boat is on a single axle trailer, and they are about the same to maneuver. Single will be fine, if you are not towing across the US--as we often do.

Trailers have to be less than 8' 6" wide. Ours is 27 feet on the trailer. Generally the C Dory trailer is at least 8 feet wide.

6 hp should be fine for a kicker. I have used both the Torqeedo Traveler 1003 and a 3.5 hp Merc 2 stoke (my dinghy motors) as kickers. The hulls are fairly easily driven in calm water. Bucking into head seas, it will be faster with a high thrust 8 hp or 9.9 hp.

I don't know how much the brand new C Dory 22 is currently, but I suspect it would be fairly easy to spend over $75,000 for a decently equiped boat. There are many options. There is a new boat for sale in Seattle for $68,000. There is a loaded 2014 boat for $79,000 in Wi. There will be at least $3500 for transport fee. For items such as the Windlass, refrigerator, 110 V electrical, trim tabs (essential) , swim step and ladder, it would probably be best to have it put in at the factory. Electronics can be as simple as a 5" combo chart plotter with fish finder for $600 plus installation if you don't feel comfortable. (should not drill holes in the transom without potting. You can easily spend $5,000 for a radar, auto pilot chart plotter, downscan/side scan solar, plus fish finder with CHIRP. VHF radio, best with AIS receiver--or even the Class B transceiver, if you boat where there is heavy commercial traffic. Don't forget the compass.

Basics such as life jackets, anchor, flares, are gong to run in the $500 to $1000. If going offshore a

The factory should be able to give you precise numbers for each option which is listed on the specifications of the 22. I personally feel that a local canvas working is best for the Camper back with Bimini.

The ski tow eyes, may be an option these days, and they should be potted with epoxy--as I noted above.

I always figure 25% at least over the purchase price of a boat for "options".

Have fun, ordering and outfitting.
 
Northwest will run it through a dealer, they do not sell direct . We sell boats all over the country and deal with warranty through local service companies all the time. We also think a blank boat that's rigged [motored] locally is not a bad idea , as then your motor dealer has a vested interest in your business.
There isn't much to go wrong with an NMI built boat . I would say they are the best built C Dorys we have seen from the brand maybe ever.
Marc
 
Greenportruss":1f75564x said:
I live on Long Island, NY and have seen pictures of cdorys. They look like the perfect boat; seaworthy styling, large cabin for size (cruiser), economical etc. My biggest problem is that the closest dealers to me are in NC and NH which makes it inconvenient to sea trial and is of concern for potential warranty issues. My thinking is to have one (22' cruiser) direct shipped to a known local marina for rigging/outfitting; my understanding from corporate is that they can do this. This will help me as dealing with a known dealer for non-hull warranty problems and my understanding from corporate is that they will sanction a close-by dealer should boat warranty arise. My other concern is that I've never been on a cdory to just see how they "ride and handle". While fairly forward of me, I am wondering if any local 22' cdory owner would allow me to take a quick ride with them just to see how I like the boat----preferably around Long Island, CT or RI. Other general questions: can a 115hp tow a <200lb water skier, how wide/long is boat on trailer (storage limitations), 2 vs 4 wheel trailering...I'll moor boat and would like a more maneuverable 2 wheel trailer for storage, necessary size for kicker motor (5,6,8,9.9 I already have a 6hp), any recent problems with balsa wood transom..Ive read about this in the past and how many $$ am I looking at for a fairly well equipped boat? ALL RESPONSES ARE APPRECIATED. THANKS, RUSS.

Hello Russ -
I own a C-Dory but have a question. You live on Long Island, have you checked out Steiger Craft? They are made right near you in Bellport. The Stegier Craft DV Miami will be my next boat.
 
haliman":q5rq0ug9 said:
Hello Russ -
I own a C-Dory but have a question. You live on Long Island, have you checked out Steiger Craft? They are made right near you in Bellport. The Stegier Craft DV Miami will be my next boat.
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How can you compare a boat with 21 degree dead rise, with a C Dory--somewhere about 3 degree deadrise? There are entirely different performance characteristics. Higher planing speed, more HP required, more fuel consumption, and less cruising accommodation?

There are a lot of high deadrise boats, and they have a lot of advantages--but also a lot of disadvantages. Steiger Craft is a well known brand, most in the NE.

Marc--glad to hear the MNI is running the boats thru a dealer--and not cutting them out (except for the profit involved in the rigging and installation of electronics etc). I agree that current boats seem to be of excellent quality.
 
thataway":31too759 said:
haliman":31too759 said:
Hello Russ -
I own a C-Dory but have a question. You live on Long Island, have you checked out Steiger Craft? They are made right near you in Bellport. The Stegier Craft DV Miami will be my next boat.
"

How can you compare a boat with 21 degree dead rise, with a C Dory--somewhere about 3 degree deadrise? There are entirely different performance characteristics. Higher planing speed, more HP required, more fuel consumption, and less cruising accommodation?

There are a lot of high deadrise boats, and they have a lot of advantages--but also a lot of disadvantages. Steiger Craft is a well known brand, most in the NE.

Marc--glad to hear the MNI is running the boats thru a dealer--and not cutting them out (except for the profit involved in the rigging and installation of electronics etc). I agree that current boats seem to be of excellent quality.

I was not comparing the two boats as there is no comparison. Re-read my post Was just mentioning Steiger Craft as it is built pretty much in his backyard. Not going to get into a discussion about which boat is better. Like I said I own a C-Dory and like the boat. Just an option for him to check out if he chooses. Nothing wrong with options.
 
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