Just an opinion...

Jim,
I'm thinking why not include or at least have an option for led lighting for da whole boat.The nav and cabin lights maybe a free flash light with the name of the current boat manufacturer. No heat from those bulbs extended life of LED's in general, less amperage draw for the batteries.
D.D.
 
On my current non C-Dory boat the foam in the seats is next to nothing, I solved the problem for only a few $. Went to WalMart and picked up the dense foam pad used under sleeping bags for about $7 cut it to size and slid it in under the current foam, now it is a bit more comfortable.
 
Not being satisfied that $145 was a fair price for replacing the foam in my factory seat I went to another upholstery place. This guy did it while I waited in about 30 minutes and charged $55 same foam as the other place. Difference was the first place specializes in autos, boats and motorcycle seats. The place I went to today does furniture and boat upholstery as a side plus they sell foam. I haven't had time to try it in the boat but it appears to be much more comfortable. I don't mind paying a fair price for services but as I thought $145 was a rip off!
 
Hi Folks,

Going back to Jim's original topic, I once had a VW Van Camper and a VW Vanagon Camper. I was teaching at a college and didn't make much money. I referred to them as my "land Yachts", and did most of my camping with one other person. If the kids came, we would pitch a tent.

From that idea I aimed at buying a 22' C-Dory. Again for only two people.

What I have found out in the past, when you are planning both an RV or a Boat, you will find that everybody will want to join you. When you get it, you find that very often you will travel alone. Both the Van Camper and the 22' C-Dory are great for traveling with one or two people.

On my second trip on the Erie Canal, I invited an old friend to come.A great guy, but with the rain and me sleeping on the aft seat and getting wet, it was not the best of situations. If I had my wife, and she didn't "bitch" about the weather, it would have been fine because I would have slept with her on the bunks under the forward decks.

On my trip to the Erie Canal I met a fellow C-Dory guy who had the best of two worlds, a 22' Cruising C-Dory and a Roadtrek 170. The Van pulled the boat trailer.

On life after innkeeping, if it ever comes, I think I will go that way.

Fred
 
Hi Brats,

We just got home after three weeks in our new camper and I'm digging my way through LOTS of posts that I missed when we were on the road.

Jim's comparison with RV's is an interesting one and he is spot on with that observation. Our RV is a "used" '08 24 footer that was traded in after four days because the retired couple that bought it found that a trailer made for a couple had a bit of a problem when you add SIX grandkids to the package! Bottom line: we bought a camper that sold in the mid-20's less than a year ago for only 13,900 in May. In contrast, we paid in the mid-50's for our loaded CD 22 cruiser in 2005. The difference is starkly evident with the RV many times more comfortable when it comes to sleeping, seating and so on.

Prior to owning Valkyrie, we had a 24 foot, French sailboat, Spirit, a Jeanneau Tonic, which I lived aboard on a two year cruise from Lake Erie to the Keys and Bahamas and back. It, too, had a cabin, seating and fit and finish that would put our RV to shame. It cost me $12,500 new in '86.

To clarify a point, we LOVE Valkyrie and can't imagine owning any other boat, but there is definitely room for improvement. Our wants and expectations are modest and to illustrate, we were immensely happy with a pop-up camper for ten years. However, Jim's points are valid and very well put. A C-Dory is an expensive boat (yes, there are others more expensive) and although it is aimed at the utility market, a few basic improvements such as comfortable seating are in order.

Our solution for the helm seat? First, even though I am 6'3", most of my height is in my legs and I had trouble seeing over the bow so I raised it a few inches with oak blocks (pics and material specs in a sub-album in our album). I still found the foam in the seat bottom would bottom out (so would I!) so I had a local canvas guy replace it with a denser foam, which really did the trick.

Once again, we love our C-Dory and these comments are meant as constructive criticism, not condemnation.

Regards,

Nick
"Valkyrie"
 
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