In Water Moorage - any advice?

brevity

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Hi Friends!

We're contemplating moving Brevity from dry stack moorage to covered in water moorage (in Ballard, so fresh/brackish water).

I'd appreciate any tips, tricks, or advice on good marinas, boat setup tips, barrier coat/bottom paint, etc.

What do we need to be aware of as we contemplate this move?

Many thanks,
Will on Brevity
 
I don"t moore my boat but I would get a bottom coat. Ballard is not brackish or what I call brackish, mix of salt and fresh. Ballard is all fresh water .
 
Brevity-

You'll get all kinds of good answers here, so I'll limit my responses to the slip features for now.

1. Where is the slip in relation to the Sun and weather (rain and wind)? My first slip with my CD-22 at Ox Bow Marina in the California Delta was open to the South. The Summer sun was miserably hot (and woke you up first thing in the morning), and the winter rain and wind blew right into the cockpit (I was 75 miles away wondering just when the bilge pumps would fail!) I finally built screens out of garden shade plastic mesh material to block the sun, wind, and rain. They also added some extra privacy, too.

2. What amenities are there at your dock? Built in locker/dock box included? Power outlet (with or without a meter)? Pressurized fresh water? TV cable outlet (cost)?

How far is it to the 1. Restrooms? 2. Showers? 3. Laundromat? 4. Marina Store? 5.Pool? 6. Yacht Club? 7. Parking lot? 8. Launch ramp? 9. Gas pumps? 10. Harbor Master? 11. Chandelery? 12. Breakwater? 13. Sherriff's Office? 14. Nearest town? 15. Sewage pump out? 16. Live Bait shop? ( And Not necessarily in that order!):lol:

I definitely prefer a two fingered slip. Better protection from other boats, easier access to both sides of yours, better to suspend your boat in the middle of, rather than just to one side of for less constant banging against the dock!

What type of neighbors are you going to have? Friendly? Similar to you, socially? Yachties? Fishermen? Party animals? Loud music enthusiasts? Dopers? Do they spend a lot of nights there? Weekends only? Is overnighting even allowed? (OH, you just signed a five-year slip lease contract before finding out the guy next slip over was just paroled from San Quentin and wears a "Hells Angels-Oakland" jacket on and off his bike and boat?) (And his girlfriend and other "guests" seem to speak some form of foreign language where 42.8% of the words all start with the letter "F"? :bat

Yup, lots to think about! :lol:
 
If you are going to put bottom paint, and I believe that any boat in the water full-time should have bottom paint, I would put on epoxy barrier coat. Any of the systems are fine--but I like at least 20 mil of epoxy. (6 coats of West System Epoxy for example).

I have had good luck with Petit Vivid in fresh/brackish/salt water, and some trailer lift time. Put 3 coats of bottom paint. Use one color for first coat, then different color for 2nd coat, and then final color. If you start to see the second color thru then time of recoat.

Follow the instructions for the system you use.
 
Joe and Bob make good points but if I were you I would spend the better part of a weekend day at the marina/moorage you're interested in and ask everyone you saw there why they liked the place, how they chose it and any other revealing questions you can think of. Moorages are a mixed bag and 'local knowledge' trumps.
 
I now have my boat in front of our condo in a salt water marina. Not ideal for boat, but ideal for me. Friends joke the boat will outlast me. I do have it over for a bottom cleaning, new bottom paint not needed yet except on tabs. I hook up to power and run the heater every few weeks. I likely will order a lower wattage heater designed to keep the cabin dry in the winter.
 
Keep a thick set of dock lines and even fenders on the dock permanently so you can come and go even easier. Run a small peltier dehumidifier when in the slip to keep moisture at bay and consider a small heater during the coldest months.

Covered is the best so that is a good choice and we happily kept our 25 in salt water covered moorage while we owned it.

Bottom paint every two years for us, and bottom cleanings (inwater) plus zinc changes on trim tabs every 3 months.

If you have a dock box, keep a hose and motor flushing gear handy plus a small vacuum and some cleaning supplies.

If you use a fridge, you could also keep it stocked so that is ready as well.

Greg
 
Thanks for the tips so far, everyone! It sounds like barrier coat/bottom paint are in our future. Is that something that's doable for a DIYer without much experience, or is it best left to the pros with the proper equipment?

We'll definitely be visiting the marinas to see what our options are like! Makes a lot of sense to see beforehand.
 
I kept a boat in covered moorage at Ballard for years and found that bottom paint isn't all that important if you use your boat enough. Freshwater scum is killed and falls off when you take your boat out through the locks every weekend. No barnacles (or toredo worms on a wood boat) if you put it back in fresh water after a couple weeks in salt. If you go through the locks twice a month, bottom paint is irrelevant.

I'd be more concerned about stray electrical current in the marina. Make sure everything is bonded properly, if applicable, and that your anodes are fresh and checked regularly. I generally had a big zinc at the dock. Something like this, but the one I used had a big alligator clip on it.

Mark

http://www.rotometals.com/product-p/Zin ... fgod7SkPxQ
 
Lots of great advice!

If you have power, you can keep an on board or even a beside the slip refrigerator stocked.

On boards are nice, but the size is limited. A moderate 4-6 or larger cf mini-fridge/freezer can keep your frequently used beverages, ice, condiments, frozen food items, and a lot more on hand so you don't have to take everything off-board, home, and return every trip. A good hasp and padlock helps keep sea lions, otters, casual human moochers, and other bandits out of your treasure chest. Get a very well sealed container and plastic bags, and you can add in frozen bait, if your Fleet Admiral doesn't read you The United States Official Marine Riot Act and stick your copy of Chapman's between your cheeks......!

I second Greg's ideas about the slip, and have done them all, plus a lot more. Just use your imagination to customize the slip to your needs within the marina's limits. I like to make the boat and slip a custom cabin/home away from home to retreat to. It gets so hot here in Redding, that staying under a covered slip during the mid-day summer sun is a lot smarter than running around, burning up fossil fuels in the sun. The fishing is better under the docks, too!

Check to see if the marina requires you to present your boat registration, insurance, and/or other documentation. Our contract says that the marina wants you to indemnify them against any loss caused by your actions or negligence, etc., but I don't think they really can or could enforce it.

What's the crime record in the marina? Boats broken into? Rare here, but it has happened. Most thefts in a marina are typically "crimes of opportunity"- something just left unlocked, out in the open, too easy, etc. One of the marinas has the Shasta Lake Sherriff's Detail housed in it, and that helps a lot.

Does the marina have a fireboat and proactive fire prevention policies, etc? It only takes one fool, etc. The "Careless BBQ to Bonfire of the Boating World" in 10 minutes or less is an all too often News at 11 story. (Reported on this site about twice a year.)

Curious note: I didn't know it at first, but after about a month or two I found I had a nesting family of River Otters in the styrofoam flotation part of dock right next to my boat. I'd already seen their scats on the dock, and knew they at least visited, but one day while sitting in a chair on the dock and working on my anchor rode, one popped up out of the water, right within reach, and stopped to look at me. Fortunately, I resisted the initial urge to pet the 'kitty'. Well, that's my story and I've still got the fingers to prove it! :wink So far, the marina hasn't put an additional charge on my monthly bill for entertainment.

Which brings us to the cost factor. You might be surprised to figure out how much that slip will cost over the years. We've kept two slips rented at a combined cost about $550/mo for over 10 years which comes to over $60,000. But it's fun and we can afford it, so why worry? Just be sure your use and pleasure justifies the eventual cost. However, on a personal note, I'm getting to the age where boat upkeep and use are a real chore, so we'll be putting a boat of two up for sale later this coming Spring.

This topic never ends, but that's all for now!

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
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