Gasoline Security (FYI)

onthewater

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Hello All:

In addition to Sal Salis Vita we also have a 19' Welcraft center console that we keep on a lift on our lake. It's very close to where we live, but we can't see the boat from our house because of the trees. The kids use this boat for tubing/skiing, while Lori and I have a favorite cove for Friday night Pizza and beverage.

In mid-September, I filled the Welcraft with fuel, and we haven't used it since. Last Monday I prepared to winterize her, and brought a 6 gallon can of gas along just to "top off" the tank.

I was surprised when the 6 gallons quickly emptied with no hint of the tank being full. My first thought was, "I wonder which one of the kids used the boat, and didn't tell us we needer to put more gas in".

The plot thickens...

I took a couple more 6 gallon cans to the gas station and filled them up. Back at the boat, another 12 gallons disappeared. Hmmm...me thinks something else is going on.

This boat is a 1995 model, and earlier this Spring, the fuel sending unit stopped working. (It was on my list to fix, but since it's more fun to work on Sal Salis Vita, this repair is now on next year's list).

To make a long story short, I went back to the gas station two more times before the tank was almost full. In all, over 29 gallons of gas was added, and it has a 30 gallon tank.

Obviously, some rascal (and I use the term rather loosely, as this is a family site) siphoned all the fuel from our tank. I'm glad we didn't head out for one last ride to look at the Fall colors, or take in that final nice day. If so, we would have needed a tow back.

It had a "regular" gas cap with the straight "two eared" key. Since every one and their brother has one of those keys, it's (obviously) not at all secure.

After doing some research I found there are several locking gas caps on the market. One uses a regular small key (like a padlock) that's inserted into a center lock. The problem I see is corrosion in the marine environment (especially in salt water). It would be splashed, or rained on, and moisture would eventually make its' way into the lock mechanism.

After looking some more, I found a replacement cap that has a "unique" (over 40) "round cut" key pattern similar to the method used to protect locking lug nuts on expensive wheels.

They come in two different sizes, so I measured our old cap and ordered the 2" model. It came today, and it fits!

The cap seems well made out of stainless steel, and comes with two keys, a wrist lanyard for the key, and a "neck drop" to secure the cap while fueling.

Obviously, a determined and inventive thief would find a way to defeat this cap and still steal our fuel, but, on the other hand, maybe he would just move along in search of a less secure boat to violate.

Since there are no moving parts to break, and it matches the filler neck, I think we made an improvement.

In fact, I believe we'll get a couple more for Sal Salis Vita (that are keyed alike) to protect her fuel tanks, as well.

The manufacturer is www.Ve-labs.com

I ordered it on ebay from macsrad (an accommodating fellow) at: NEW Single Locking Boat Fuel Cap 2" (130543648677). The cap and accessories cost $32.95, which doesn't seem bad considering how well made it appears, and the fact it's for a boat. Shipping was $16.68.

All the usual disclaimers (not associated/just happy customer, etc.)

Considering this creep stole well over $100 worth of fuel, hopefully this will dissuade a "repeat performance".
 
The caps sound great but be ready for them to strike again. Once they know they can get to your gas they will keep coming back. That is what game cameras are for. Get a picture of the guy. Oh the cops will most likely do nothing even with a picture but you can always post it on the net. craigslist and on bulletin boards around town.
 
Interesting. I just got a post from the Homeowner's Association in the community where we own a beach house in Delaware.
Evidently, someone has been approaching boats, from land or water - all homes have lagoon access,
and has been cutting boat gas lines - all of which were located on land, and siphoning the gas out of the tanks.
A cap lock would not be of much help in this situation.
I don't currently have a boat there, but others have lost a ton of gas.
This sucks. Pretty soon it may be happening in our marinas.
Mine is 1/2 a mile away.
FYI,
Bill
 
Perhaps a "phony" fuel line hooked up to a few gallons of gas mixed with sugar would slow them down....a lot in the future. Would work like a several thousand dollar fine..self imposed...no police or courts required.

Ron
 
Even worse in the RV world are the thieves who punch a hole in the bottom of the fuel tank and just put a container (s) under to fill up--no siphoning
! That is a several thousand dollar hit on the RV owner.

Doubt that would happen on a boat--but there are all sorts of ways for determined thieves to get fuel....
 
REBEMUP":ud6doa4x said:
Perhaps a "phony" fuel line hooked up to a few gallons of gas mixed with sugar would slow them down....a lot in the future. Would work like a several thousand dollar fine..self imposed...no police or courts required.

Ron

I like the way you think!
Simpler yet, just leave a doctored gas can in the cockpit. They'll take the whole thing so's an old can would be best.
On the off chance (like when pigs fly) some goof pours it in your boat check the fuel level before starting it.
 
Since a barrel of oil closed at $99 a barrel today,
price at the pump will probably??? hahaha go up.
There is more of this to come. Boats hunkered down for the
winter at beach homes and in marinas, with the (recommended) full
tank of gas.
All you have to do is read a boat forum - any one - and see
that many exp..ts recommend a full tank at season's end.
Since it will be in the 60's this weekend, I think I'll stabilize again
and try to run as much gas out of the Trophy as I can before she comes out for the winter.
Bill
 
I think it was a couple of years ago Mythbusters took on the myth of sugar in fuel tanks and couldn't find any ill effects. Ethanol seems to cause more damage. I think I would change the labeling on the fuel filler in addition to a locking cap. Imagine if I changed the marking on the waste pump out to gas on the stern of my 25 and someone stuck a hose in there and sucked on it. That would make a wonderful game camera photo.
 
I really liked Ron's method of rigging up a phony hose to a gas can full of sugar-gas. I phantisized about that until TBrady suggested rigging up a pooper hose to make it look like a gas line. Absolutely excellent TP, I love it.
That would stop those low lifes.
 
On this past Veteran's Day, some low life stole some veteran's grave markers from a cemetary in Poulsbo,Wa. and tried to sell them to a recycle center. Fortunately, they have arrested one individual who was caught on camera attempting to sell them and are currently seeking an accomplice. (The recycle center refused to purchase the markers from him, but they did manage to obtain a copy of his driver's license as well as the camera footage of the attempt).
 
starcrafttom":2ka7uilu said:
Selling vets grave markers? Really? It just amazes me.

The articles can be located on google by typing in Poulsbo Veteran Grave Marker.
Bottom line is these low lifes are not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.
 
Mebby if sugar isn't that deadly to engines the gas could be spiked with Draino or something, this may require a plastic can though. FIRST do the research to make sure you can't damage or yourself or others with barnyard chemistry.
Note; I'm just jokin' here, no professional would attempt such lunacy, don't try this at home.
 
Ok, after a little research I discovered that valve lapping compound dissolves in gasoline and mixed with some diesel would do bad things to cylinder walls, fuel injection systems, etc. While some of the grit would be trapped by the fuel filter some of the dissolved components and diesel fuel will make it through.

If I were rigging such a system I would be sure to block the fuel connector to the engine (epoxy?) to prevent accidents so only someone cutting the hose would be rewarded with the very special fuel mix.

Ron
 
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