Finally found a 22 Cruiser (2013) and hoping for advice

BenCarney

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Long-time lurker finally posting — first, thank you all. I've been tracking C-Dorys here for over a decade and have learned an enormous amount from this forum.

I may have found my boat and I'd be grateful for any input before I commit.

**The boat:** 2013 22 Cruiser, twin Honda BF50s, 480 hours on the pair. Shore power, heater, rooftop AC, Garmin plotter, VHF, rear bimini, galvanized trailer. It's on consignment at a dealer in Vancouver, WA that doesn't carry C-Dory — they're a Duckworth/Yamaha shop — which may be why it hasn't come up here. Link to the listing:


I've got a refundable deposit down pending inspection and sea trial. I'll be driving down tomorrow and it's a bit of a haul so I'd like to make the trip count.

**What little I know of the history:** an older couple owned it for about two years. Which means they weren't the original owners, and there's roughly a decade before them that I know nothing about. I should have the HIN tomorrow and I'm happy to post it if that helps anyone place the boat. It isn't named and I don't even see any fading from previous name in the photos.

**Compression from the dealer** — port 207 / 204 / 206, starboard 228 / 206 / 210.

Questions, numbered for easy replies:

1. Does anyone recognize this boat, or know it from before the current owners? A 2013 with twin 50s seems unusual enough that someone might. Any history at all would be welcome.

2. Anything I should know in general about this vintage? I've read a lot of the core and rot threads here, but nearly all of them involve 80s and 90s boats. I'd love to hear what actually goes wrong on the newer ones, and what changed in construction between the mid-2000s and 2013.

3. There's an old thread where Harvey mentioned the factory was still fitting the smaller aft hatch covers that aren't meant for horizontal application, as recently as George's "Kerri On" in 2011. Did that carry into 2013? I plan to open the lazarettes and look hard at the gaskets.

4. Is the pilothouse overhead on a 2013 solid glass or cored? I've seen it stated both ways. There's an AC unit up there that I intend to remove eventually, and I'd like to know what I'll find at the cut edge.

5. Twin BF50s versus a single — anything specific to watch for beyond the obvious doubled maintenance? Timing belt history is unknown so I'm budgeting for both regardless.

6. Sanity check on the compression numbers? Port is dead even. The starboard 228 is my only question mark, and my read is that a high cylinder points to carbon from 37 hours a year of light-duty running rather than anything structural. Happy to be told otherwise.

**My inspection plan,** and I'd welcome pushback here: I've owned several boats and I'm planning to percuss the hull thoroughly — transom top edge under the cap, cockpit sole around the fuel tank brackets, engine bolt clusters, foredeck and anchor locker — plus back out a handful of fasteners and check the threads. I'm honestly not convinced a full survey with a moisture meter is warranted on a boat this new, given that most of the documented rot here traces to fastener practices the factory changed years before this hull was laid up. But I'd rather be told I'm wrong now than find out later, so if you think I'm being naive about it, please say so.

Thanks in advance. I've gotten a lot out of this place over the years and I appreciate the time.
 
Good morning,

I have checked out this boat at Pacific Boatland. Make sure to check out the port side transom repair. This boat looks like it has spent a great amount of time outside uncovered. Lots of deep scratches in the gel coat stripe. I would ask lots of questions about the transom. You will see it when you look at the back of the boat. Make sure to check around the roof where they installed the AC unit. If I were to grade this boat it would be fair condition at best. Just my 2 cents worth. As Dr. Bob says…always says get a marine surveyor to check out every inch of the C-Dory.
 
Twin 50s is a reasonable setup for twin powered CD22s. There are also twin 40s and twin 60s.
The listing says the boat has heat. If it is from the AC unit (combo AC and heat?) I'd leave it in for that function. There is no evidence in the available images of another source of heat. Even in the PNW, there are days that AC is nice to have (if nothing else, to cool the cabin when it is closed up due to wildfire smoke).
It looks like this boat has the better hatch covers on the aft quarter storage compartments.
 
Good morning,

I have checked out this boat at Pacific Boatland. Make sure to check out the port side transom repair. This boat looks like it has spent a great amount of time outside uncovered. Lots of deep scratches in the gel coat stripe. I would ask lots of questions about the transom. You will see it when you look at the back of the boat. Make sure to check around the roof where they installed the AC unit. If I were to grade this boat it would be fair condition at best. Just my 2 cents worth. As Dr. Bob says…always says get a marine surveyor to check out every inch of the C-Dory.
@Xtraplus18 Thanks for the reply — this is exactly why I posted.

I'll call the dealer about the transom repair and ask for photos of the scratches. How extensive was the repair?

And were you looking at buying it yourself, or helping someone else decide?


Twin 50s is a reasonable setup for twin powered CD22s. There are also twin 40s and twin 60s.
The listing says the boat has heat. If it is from the AC unit (combo AC and heat?) I'd leave it in for that function. There is no evidence in the available images of another source of heat. Even in the PNW, there are days that AC is nice to have (if nothing else, to cool the cabin when it is closed up due to wildfire smoke).
It looks like this boat has the better hatch covers on the aft quarter storage compartments.
The heat does indeed come from the AC unit, but only works with shore power. I would definitely install a diesel heater after removing the AC. I've had them on past boats and wouldn't want to live without one again.
 
Hi Ben,

I have a C-dory 2005 22’ Cruiser. I am not in the market for a new one since I love mine and I’m the process of finishing a boat garage for it.

I like to check out their boats once in a while. I saw this one and was kind of surprised that a 2013 would be in not as good condition than my 2005. (Mine is in very good shape.) typical C-Dory owners seem to take very good care of these boats

I also sent them a message via Craigslist Seattle to not mention excellent condition (if they classify this boat as excellent condition, I would hate to see what they say is fair or good condition.)

Have them send you a picture of the port side transom ,and both port, and starboard side color stripes. The port side transom is two colors of white instead of one color. I would also ask if this was sourced, or spent a great deal if it’s life in the southern United States.

If I remember it might have sun bleached interior as well. The pictures do hide some of the condition issues.

Good luck in your search.
 
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