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Wandering Sagebrush

Free Range Human
While buying some replacement bulbs for my boat, I had an idea that would be of benefit to you folks by making the boats even better than they are now.

For every suggestion that comes in from the CBrats, and that you incorporate into the boats, you give the originator of the idea some CDory merchandise, like a pair of the fleece vests...

I am going to kick it off with a suggestion that you provide a spare fuse and bulb kit with each new boat. The spares would only cover the standard items and options that the factory puts on the boat as it leaves the factory, but would allow some growth space for owner and dealer added items.

And yes, I would love a set of the fleece vests...

Kind Regards,

Steve (shameless in self promotion)
 
I like the way you think Steve and for us Aircraft electricians I suggest a wiring diagram be included in the kit.

I'll take a large in the Fleece Jacket

On edit if all you have is hats the Marines will take a small
[/i] The devil made me do it :twisted:
 
Thanks guys for the helpful suggestions. Fortunately there is no shortage of suggestions from C-Brats as to how to modify the boats. I don't think you really want us to keep track of who made the suggestion and if it was incorporated because of the offered suggestion. It may not always appear so but we do listen to the suggestions offered.

Now if you can suggest how we can get folks out there to buy some new C-Dory boats from our dealers in the face of continued bad economic news (and C-Brats advising to buy only used boats) - I will deliver the vest (and hat) to you.

As always - thank you for your support.

Rich F.
 
tough times indeed.

I'm not a fan of leasing, but, what if the marine industry took a page from the auto folks (nooo not going belly up and getting a bailout) and leased new boats. A person could have a new boat & save on sales tax, when the lease was up they could buy the boat used or turn it back.......just a thought
 
I don't think everybody recommends buying used. I encourage potential buyers to consider C-Dory all over the internet. I'm sure other owners are doing the same.

I seldom approach the dock without being stopped by someone asking about the boat. I've given a few tours at the dock as well.

It would be nice to see more C-Dory products up here in MA. Too bad there was not an opportunity for a dealer to be represented at the NE Boat Show. I saw my first C-Dory at the boat show several years ago.
 
Seems that I've said several times, "I love the smell of new fiberglass"... I recommend new, 'cuz we need to keep the factory AND the dealers going. I don't need a hat or a jacket, I just enjoy meeting other C-Brats. If we convert some lookers into owners, it's good all around.

We know you factory folks are busy, hopefully making new boats. There is a symbiotic relationship here, and an occasional post from a factory person goes a LONG ways towards enhancing that relationship. The previous factory folks pretty much ignored us. We can be a great sales force and a powerful marketing vehicle (your new brochure/website is evidence that you are aware of that). In a down economic tide, giving away hats and jackets may not help the bottom line... an occasional communication with the "faithful" might be the the best time/money spent. We have ideas... we use these boats... we know what works... and every one of us has been approached by people at the dock, on the ramp, on the road, and on the water - they want to know about these boats.

In my previous life, I did seminars for professionals in my field. I told them, "Your current customer list is your best source for new customers. Take care of them; communicate with them; solicit their opinions. The better you know your customers, the more targeted you can be with your advertising and your products." Think I'm way off base here? We could have saved the factory a ton of $$$ on that CD-29. And it wouldn't have cost a single hat or jacket.

My two pesos.

Best wishes,
Jim B.
 
I LOVE my new C-dory 19 and I tell everybody I got it from the Port Boathouse in Port Alberni, a great boat and fantastic dealer. I was thinking about importing a used one from the US but my wife said "nope I want a new one in a box" So we did, thanks guys! :lol:
 
B~C wrote


"I'm not a fan of leasing, but, what if the marine industry took a page from the auto folks (nooo not going belly up and getting a bailout) and leased new boats. A person could have a new boat & save on sales tax, when the lease was up they could buy the boat used or turn it back.......just a thought"

The Auto Manufacturers buy down "Money Factors" and artificially boost Residual Values through their Financial Services Divisions (GMAC/Ford Motor Credit/Chrysler Credit) in an effort to move more automobiles. Part of the Lease Inception Fees include an "Acquisition Fee" part of which goes to an insurance policy to ward off actual values lower than the Residual Value used at the end of the lease.

Boat Manufacturers are not now and will likely never be in a financial position to "suck up" the losses incurred when Residuals are figured too high and Money Factors are too low.

Right now you must have extremely high credit scores to qualify for a lease since you are making payments on a lender-owned asset rather than a buyer-owned asset. Then you have to figure the cost of liabilities since many boaters are neither licensed, trained or properly insured. If a leasee "whacked" somebody in a leased boat the leasing company would also be open to a lawsuit.

Leasing boats would be a veritable financial minefield for all parties concerned...never going to happen!

Got to learn how to do that "quote-in-the-box" thing!

Charlie
 
SGIRhino":3h8kerpc said:
B~C wrote

Boat Manufacturers are not now and will likely never be in a financial position to "suck up" the losses incurred when Residuals are figured too high and Money Factors are too low.

Charlie

Apparently the Auto Manufacturers aren't in that financial position either! Maybe we also need a Boat Mfr Bailout (NOT) :thdown :thdown

the other Charlie
 
Actually I heard that there was a million dollars in the Stimulus package for "Apalachicola Boat works" as part of the "working waterfront package". I think that was one of the "shovel ready" programs.....

The story line is: Apalachicola Boat Works is seeking $1 million for acquisition of a historic parcel that can serve as an extension of the Apalachicola Maritime Museum.

Maybe Wefing's could grab a piece of the pie....
 
Hello Rich,

I would suggest a page from the Hyundai automotive group playbook. They now offer the "Hyundai Assurance Program." This is the program whereby they (Hyundai) will take back your car if you loose your income during the next year.

Details here (http://www.hyundaiusa.com/financing/Hyu ... rance.aspx)

Just a thought. Maybe something like this would get people to actually BUY the inventory at your dealers.

/david
 
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Rich -

Before I bought the Comfortably Numb new a year ago, I was on the site for quite a while trying to get a feel for the virtues of new vs. used. For whatever it's worth, all the discussions led me to buying new (even from the "old" factory!). I had a few really decent used opportunities...and here in the middle of the USA.

I have never regretted the decision...it gave me an opportunity to get just what I wanted (my dreams as opposed to someone else's) and it has been great. Especially with the support of the "new" factory. You guys are super.

I was sorry to note that at the St. Louis Boat Show just last weekend, C-Dory was not represented...several ski boats, but no C-Dorys. I think the dealer missed out...everyone who sees my boat in these parts wants to know all about it, where they are made, how to get one, etc. Talk is cheap, I know, but a sale always starts with talk. And dreaming.

Kind regards,
Mark
Comfortably Numb
 
RichF":276f5pxh said:
Thanks guys for the helpful suggestions. Fortunately there is no shortage of suggestions from C-Brats as to how to modify the boats. I don't think you really want us to keep track of who made the suggestion and if it was incorporated because of the offered suggestion. It may not always appear so but we do listen to the suggestions offered.

Now if you can suggest how we can get folks out there to buy some new C-Dory boats from our dealers in the face of continued bad economic news (and C-Brats advising to buy only used boats) - I will deliver the vest (and hat) to you.

As always - thank you for your support.

Rich F.

Hi Rich,

Thanks for acknowledging the thought. I guess one of these days I will break down and buy a couple of the vests for Diana and myself. On the topic of the spares kit, I encourage you to think about doing that. A Plano divided lure box with a representative sample of bulbs and fuses would be helpful. When Diana and I first anchored out, we did so with an LED flashlight hanging from the arch due to a blown bulb in the anchor light. Shame on me for not thinking of that in advance. I got all the fuses, but forgot bulbs.

On the topic of new CDorys, there are some of us are working in the background to encourage folks to buy new CDorys when the opportunity presents itself. I want to see both you, and my local dealer (Sportcraft) succeed and do well. There have been several instances where folks have been guided towards a customer friendly dealer (e.g. Sportcraft) when they are not satisfied with the type of customer service that they are getting from their local CDory dealership.

Kind Regards,

Steve
 
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