Downeast Lobster Boat

joefish

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Quite a bit about the Seaway Coastal Cruiser is available on this site. Similar in size to a C-Dory and trailerable I think it's a comparable boat. Many positives including their good looks and comfortable semi displacement running characteristics. Down sides appear to be their behavior in following seas and top speed of about 20 mph. So what do you think of this boat -- the Gurnet Point 25? It's a downeast cruiser as well and I think it looks good.

http://www.southshoreboatworks.com/boat ... nt-25.html

Click on the More Photos link to see photos of Sandpiper III, a "lobster yacht".
 
I don't like the true "Maine lobster" style. They look too "commercial"...well obviously; those are their roots. :)

I don't think C Dories look like " Downeast" or "Maine" boats at all. Is that how C Dories are "classed"?

The boat builder is located like 30 minutes from my house. Why can't there be a C Dory dealer Mass?? lol
 
Although Down East boats are pretty, there are some down sides--especially with this specific boat. Already mentioned--no really functional cabin, where you can have a galley, eat, lounge etc. The engine box, is in the middle of the cabin, if you put a full pilot house on. This means noise, as well as loss of usable room.

I much prefer outboards in this size of boat. The Down East, requires a fair amount of HP to go slower than the C Dory.. Working on an inboards and systems in an engine room, on smaller boats can be difficult
 
An open work boat and especially one designed for warm climates will, by its design, be quite different from a cruising boat designed for the PNW weather.

What's really amazing is to find one like the C-Dory that can be adapted to all types of situations.

Remember that all boats are compromises in design possibilities.

(Just like life choices in general.)

The success of the C-Dorys and the CD-22 Cruiser in particular is because they represent the middle ground between many different choice alternatives and thus form an acceptable boat for so many:

size, cost, speed, living accommodations, open space, propulsion choices, weather protection, seaworthiness, durability, adaptability, trailability, style/aesthetics, simplicity, -what can you add to the list?

The boat on the other side of the breakwater might look very good at first, but upon second examination and some reflection, we keep coming back to C-Dorys for a bunch of very good reasons.

Joe. :teeth :thup
 
All valid if not personal points of view. Much appreciated, keep 'em coming! I'm thinking with a 200hp outboard and an enclosed pilot house it's more like a C-Dory all the time. Personally I don't need a sink with running water and a shower. An Airhead keeps it simple and trailerable.
 
Royal Lowell, Jamie's grandfather I presume, is credited with what we think of as the New England lobster boat, which looks an awfully lot like this stubby little thing but with more length v.. freeboard, thus more grace to most eyes. Royal's brother Carroll built many of them, Other downeast workboats with somewhat similar profiles, such as the Jonesporter lobster boats, were skinnier, faster, often fitted with huge automobile V8s for racing, of all things. Many were designed by their builders, often the lobstermen who fish them.

They were designed for the conditions in which they're operated, which are a good bit different than usual for our West Coast waters. For pottering about in protected western inland estuaries, a lobster boat is plenty good if not finest-kind. Get into an open seaway or current & wind opposed situation in the Northwest and you could have a sticky wicket in a lobstah bot.

Besides the considered opinions expressed by others here about the house or lack of enclosed wheelhouse, inboard v. outboard, etc,. the hull shape deserves serious consideration. F'instance, the downeater's sharp, deep forefoot invites a stem-steer broach when a healthy Pacific swell overtakes from astern, lifts that broad buoyant rump and carries it past the bow now buried, trapped in the wave ahead.

In the short, steep Atlantic nearshore seas Lowell designed for, a lobster boat's fine, the right tool - but so's a C-Dory correctly trimmed, its speed & load prudent. But, you wouldn't want to stack a hundred lobster pots on the C-Dory's stern, which is no problem on a lobster boat. Like knives, each vessel is best when suited to place & purpose.

The wise new-to-boating buyer won't forget to consider that, get seasoned advice on the matter and listen well. It's not just whether the cabin suits your needs or what kind of power you prefer; a mistake in choice of hull design can ruin it all, including lives.

Experienced watermen choose C-Dorys for their yachts because they are a collection of safe & clever compromises enabling them to do many things plenty well enough, enough things superbly, and they are honest & well-built.
 
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