Doryman's Meanderings

Well, no New Orleans for us this direction. The Admiral issued orders that today was the day to make the boat shipshape (I can let things slide but she can't!) Plus, driving has been hard on her and she does need some downtime to recuperate, so we have spent a quiet day in the campground, really getting the boat organized. I have to admit, it is time well-spent because now when we get to the cruising grounds we will be all organized (or mostly so.) It will make getting going less stressful. We have never packed for this length of time away from the truck before, so it is a learning experience.

Tomorrow the plan is to get to Camp Thataway.

Warren
 
Warren, great thread, fun to go along vicariously. Great Dr Bob for us and you travel safe. Looks like the PNW may have survived another recordsetter. Thanks for the photo of Alamo. Ben a long time since I was there. In those days, the river walk was NOT the place to be. Not pretty and not safe. Glad to hear it has been much improved.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon
 
Marie and I had the pleasure of hosting Warren and Lori for a day and a half at Camp Thatway. What extra-ordinary people they are. As we talked the question came up, if there is any other forum which has the extended family that the C Brats have? My answer is "No". I have been in some local organizations and groups with depth of relationships, but I cannot think of any national/international group which has the closeness that is found in our group.

Roger and Mary Jo Rockwell also joined us for Dinner (thanks for the crabs and Shrimp!). It is more than the boats which bind our group--and I have met the most wonderful people through this forum.

Warren and Lori drove to Apalachicola today. I'm not sure if they will catch up with the rapidly moving Marc or not. After a couple of weeks with days in the 70's and nights in the 50's it plumeted yesterday to about 45 wind chill during the day, and down to 32 at night--colder later this week. Not all of Florida is the tropical paradise.

Good traveling Warren and Lori--we will see you in a couple of months.
 
Marc is wishing he was there to meet the Warren and Lori crew , perhaps on the way back up . This is the season of working harder . In Atlanta and then to Stuart and Miami . I sincerely hope we cross paths . I am counting on Jef and Doug,Alan and Jeremy [otherwise known as Team Wefings] to get the boat stuff done for you . Ill be posting updates on a regular basis . Have fun In Fl .
Marc
 
Like Bob said, we came to Florida to find the warm. Since it's 43 outside this evening, obviously we haven't found it yet! Here are Bob and Lori at the shore. It was cold!

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We had such a wonderful time getting to know Bob better, and meeting Marie and her "Momma" for the first time. Educational, too! As might be imagined, the discussion usually came back to boats, boats, and more boats. Here are Bob and Roger:

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Dinnertable discussion gave us ideas for several excellent cruising destinations in the area, when we return north -- after it warms up!

On Sunday, Bob gave us the full geographical, socio-economic, political, maritime and military tour of Pensacola. We identified the best place to launch the boat when we return, and some places to visit while cruising in the area. Then we toured the Naval Aviation Museum, located on the grounds of NAS Pensacola. One exhibit at the museum gave me an idea for a new C-Dory:

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We are now finishing up two days in Apalachicola on Florida's "Forgotten Coast" while the boat was being serviced by Wefings Marine. Nothing was wrong with the boat but we wanted to get it checked out and have regular maintenance performed before we launched. By happenstance we ended up staying at the Coombs House Inn bed and breakfast here -- a most luxurious experience!

Tomorrow we continue our journey south. Thanks, Bob and Marie, Roger and Mary Jo, and Team Wefings!

Warren
 
Hi Warren,

We enjoyed our time in Apalachicola, and the Wefings folks are first class. Not sure what your destination is; just checked 10-day weather for Marathon... by Saturday, the daytime highs are in the 70s, lows in the 60s - not a bad way to spend January, huh? :hot

Looking forward to your posts.

Best wishes,
Jim
 
Get on South as fast as you can! Apalachicola is going to be as low as 23 degrees in the next couple of nights. Even Tampa is predicting less than 30 degrees Friday night--there goes the Citrus crop! I wouldn't be surprised to see it below 20 at our house (that is very unusual).
 
thataway":jm93wzz7 said:
Get on South as fast as you can! Apalachicola is going to be as low as 23 degrees in the next couple of nights. Even Tampa is predicting less than 30 degrees Friday night--there goes the Citrus crop! I wouldn't be surprised to see it below 20 at our house (that is very unusual).

Bob, I saw that in the news this morning. We are in St. Petersburg now, so the combination of the more southern latitude and the proximity to the coast should help mitigate the cold snap for us.

We picked up the boat from Wefings this morning and spent the day driving Highway 98 and 19 south. Nice drive until we hit the city traffic. Tomorrow we will head south a bit more then head west to pick up the road that will take us to Flamingo.

Warren
 
Well, here we are, in the fabled Florida Keys! Feels more like home right now -- temp 54, with wind chill 47! There is a cold front moving down Florida that is supposed to take the temps in Naples down to 20. It is supposed to warm up to 70 and be sunny by Friday. We arrived here on Monday and spent Tuesday watching the inauguration (yeah!) and doing laundry.

Those who have been following my blog know from my SPOT (googlemap) posts that we were in a campground and marina at Everglades National Park for several days. We completed setting the boat up for launch, launched, and spent two nights in the Flamingo marina before heading out into Florida Bay.

The facilities at Flamingo are heavily hurricane-damaged. The lodge and cottages are totally uninhabitable. The marina store does not sell fuel although the tanks and pumps are all there (they are changing concessionaires.) The toilets in the campgrounds have fallen into such a state of disrepair that they really need to be seen to be believed. All in all, for what should be one of the premier national parks, the facilities at Everglades are a sad commentary on how far and how fast the National Park Service has fallen in the past eight years. We can only hope that some of the Obama public-works funds will be allocated to repairs in our national parks.

Here is a link to the first of a series of photos of Flamingo in my album:


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To get to Sugarloaf Key we had to transit Florida Bay to Seven-Mile Bridge (approximately in the middle of the Keys), go under the bridge into the Atlantic Ocean and then go southwest to Sugarloaf (14 miles from Key West.) We had several adventures en route.

Boating in Florida is nothing like boating in the Pacific North West. The water is very shallow, and it is easy to run aground, as we found out (all the guidebooks say this is SOP, but still it is disconcerting.) The reason we ran aground had multiple causation, but in the end it was my fault. First, many of the channel markers were damaged in the hurricanes that have hit south Florida in recent years. The channel marker numbers often do not agree with what is on the charts, but I found out later that one should just trust the markers (verifying visually and with depthsounder, of course) and follow them.

Complicating the navigation are the many crab pots, which would not be so bad if they did not have long lines attaching them to their floats. In water 2.5' deep, a 10' crab pot line creates a 7.5' horizontal obstacle that needs to be avoided -- but one first has to determine which direction from the float the line is drifting. Long story short, I failed in trying to avoid one of these crab pot lines, got my prop fouled and then went aground. Lori stripped down, jumped in the water (chilly but bearable, she said) and cut the crab pot line free, then pulled the boat off the shoal. What a gal!

After our adventures on Florida Bay we thought we were home free. Nope! We encountered a little thing called the Gulf Stream and 15 knot winds as we slogged our way against both from Seven Mile Bridge to Sugarloaf Key. Because of the wind, we could not get up on plane without getting badly beaten up so were limited to a very fuel-inefficient 10 knot speed. And because we were bucking the 8-knot Gulf Stream, we effectively only made about two knots over the ground.

As a result it took us all afternoon to get from the bridge to the channel leading back to the KOA where we are staying. Here, as elsewhere, the channel markers were out of sequence and did not agree with the charts, but we made it to the bridge where we had been told the KOA was on the other side. Only one problem: the bridge has only about 6' clearance. Fortunately, however, our information was incorrect and the KOA marina was located on our side of the bridge.

The people here are incredibly nice, the facilities are wonderful and aside from the distinctly un-Floridan weather, we are very happy to be here. We plan to use this as a base for at least the next week. We are renting a car and will use it to explore Key West and check out where we might stay or anchor on our way back. We have not yet decided whether we will go north along the east coast of Florida past Ft. Lauderdale and Miami to Stuart, and from there transit through the Okeechobee to the Ft.. Myers area on the west side of the state.
 
Warren,

What's with this 2.5 ft deep stuff? We don't allow water like that around here. Are you sure you are not in some retired C-Brat millionaire's hot tub?
Don't complain, We have 34F and freezing fog on Whidbey but the water is VERY calm. (and deep) (and cold) :lol:

Merv
 
Grumpy":i2lrrgux said:
Warren,

What's with this 2.5 ft deep stuff? We don't allow water like that around here. Are you sure you are not in some retired C-Brat millionaire's hot tub?
Don't complain, We have 34F and freezing fog on Whidbey but the water is VERY calm. (and deep) (and cold) :lol:

Merv

Au contrare, mon Grumpy. I know a guy who, upon returning from Whidbey Island, found water skinny enough to ground a CD-22. In our part of the world there are two kinds of boaters: those who have run aground and liars. :wink:

Freezing fog? Tomorrow's forecast: plague of locusts and raining frogs? It's 71º here, the sun is shining, the palm trees are lightly swaying, and I have the boat bottom painted, waxed, and back in the water! And Pat wonders why we stay down here this time of year? 8)

Best wishes,
Jim

PS Didn't mean to hijack your thread, Warren. Hope you're having big fun in the Keys! :D
 
Jim,

You are right. I vividly remember a trip on a very expensive catameran (much bigger than a CD255) where the intrepid captain grounded it on the "wrong" side of the entrance buoy at Everett in front of the whole Naval dockyard with the Marine Resources Council and the maker of the Cat on board !

Spilt my drink (That's why I remember!) and damn near dropped my plate of mussels.

However we do have trained (FD) seagulls around here. If they are walking, keep clear.

:lol: Merv
 
Warren and Lori,

Good to see you have made it to the Keys. The pics. of Flamingo look just like Jan. 2007. Only then they still sold gas. The damaged area of the new floating docks, we were told was due to silt that had washed in during hurricane Wilma. Not a thing wrong with the docks. I guess they are too poor to do some dredging. Nothing has been rebuilt there in two years. We stayed there for a week. Electric and water on the docks and it was free. They said the couldn't charge for damaged docks.

If you decide to boat to Key West, I would stay at the City Marina at Garrison Bight. Its within walking distance to much of Key West, and half the cost of the marinas on the other bight.

We anchored along the Hawk Channel side in many bays between Marathon and Key West. See the posts in our "O the places we go" thread. We anchored out right across the bridge, east of the KOA where you are located.

Brent
 
Doryman":1ky6fcx7 said:
...the facilities at Everglades are a sad commentary on how far and how fast the National Park Service has fallen in the past eight years. We can only hope that some of the Obama public-works funds will be allocated to repairs in our national parks.
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That's interesting because when we took a Park Ranger tour at the Petrified Forest on our way home from Lake Powell the Ranger made a point to note that the Park Service has gotten more funding during the Bush administration that from any other President. I guess there are different districts that have different leadership. I know that every single Corp of Engineer campground that I have been to in AL, and Ga have been updated and are in first class condition. This has all been in the last 6 years. That's when when started visiting them. When we first started using the COE campgrounds we never had a problem getting a site and if we went during the week we would often have the place to ourself. That is not the case now. I don't disagree that Flamingo is in shambles so is Ft Pickens here in Pensacola but it's not because the Park service has been underfunded. Street talk here is that the head Ranger in this area has done everything in his power to delay the rebuild of Ft. Pickens. This may be the same situation down there. The talk here is the the ranger does not want PEOPLE messing up the park only skunks and snakes.

Roger
 
I wasn't commenting on the political end of the funding. Just the reality of the conditions that existed. Possibly they don't really want people in the Everglades either. We have a difficult time of it at home with the environmental types trying to close off the entire forest to any motorized travel. The forest service bows to the environmental groups not the majority of the people.

Brent
 
Thanks Roger,

Bush Bashing comes in many forms. Alaskan Parks have been well funded this past eight years as have those in the Pacific Northwest.
Like the education system, the amount of dollars spent does not represent the best out come. Washington DC has the highest dollar spent per student and one of the lowest grade result.

Gary
 
Doryman, thanks for on-site up to date info on Flamingo. Planning a trip of our own I'd been operating on the assumption that fuel was available. Nice photos, too. From the background of the alligator shot I'm wondering whether the subject might not be one of the resident crocodiles?

If you do come over to the W. Coast remember that if you want it there's a dock free here in Punta Gorda for as little or long as you like. Water and electric, also transportation unless we're off cruising too.
 
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