Dealer Setup (PortBoathouse) question

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habsrulz

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Hello friends,

Just a quick question,

Is it correct for the dealer to have installed the 2nd battery between the gas tanks (very close to bilge water) instead of the port side storage bin?

Would there be concerns for corrosion as the battery is simply sitting on a small tray (1/3 inch off floor).

Also, does everyone with a 22 foot cruiser have a round hole drilled and covered with a stainless still cover (similiar to those directing electrical chords) on the port side for the anchor bin inside the cuddy?

Just wondering how well the dealer set things up.
Thank you all.
 
Good morning and welcome to the forum! We're kinda like family here, take a minute and introduce yourself in the General Chat forum, you'll meet some great people.
Both of our batteries are in the starboard lazerette out of the way of corrosion, entanglement, inadvertent shorts and the cockpit drain. Seems like a good spot for them. If the anchor rode bin drain vents to the outside of the boat you're in good shape.
 
Thanks for the reply.

So then is it "incorrect" to have installed the 2nd battery near the bildge area.

The starboard stern hatch seems somewhat cramped for 2 batteries.

It also "looks" messy to have the battery in full view on the floor in between the gas tanks. It also leaves little room to place a 3rd portable tank.

The port stern hatch is currently empty.


Thank you!
 
habsrulz":2iubz153 said:
The starboard stern hatch seems somewhat cramped for 2 batteries.

The port stern hatch is currently empty.
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I have a C-22 with two batteries, a battery switch, and a main circuit breaker in the starboard lazarette. It takes a little time to remove and replace the batteries, but the job isn't that difficult even for a geezer. With that said, some Brats put a larger single battery in both the port and starboard lazarettes but I don't see the advantage since it takes some hefty DC lines to parallel them. Other Brats convert the starboard lazarette to a live bait well.

One of the big advantages of C-Dory ownership is the flexability.

Don
 
Prior to purchasing our 22 cruiser in April, I recalled seeing a picture or two of someone who had a battery in the bildge area between the gas tanks.

When I purchased our boat and negotiated having the second battery installed, I questioned placing the battery in the bildge area. I wasn't planning on using the bildge area for anything and the portside lazarette could still be used for something--maybe.

The dealer told me that there wouldn't be anything wrong with installing the battery in between the gas tanks. Time will tell. It has only been three months.
 
Thanks to everyone for their quick replies!!!

I guess I simply want (need) assurance that the dealer did not do a poor or lazy job of installing the battery by the bilge area and that this location will not pose potential problems down the road.

There is no cover for this area and so it seems quite odd to place this here.

If I hear from other members that this is a questionable are, I will persue the dealer to relocate it.

Again, thanks!
 
First, if the dealer put screws into the actually bottom of the CD22, without drilling out a larger area, and putting in epoxy filler (which I don't think any dealers do)--he didn't do you any favors. I don't know how the cockpit liner fits in all of this, since I have not seen one of the boats with a liner. But--do not screw items into the bottom of the boat, without drilling out some of the balsa core, and replacing it with epoxy. This is an invitation to have water intrustion into the core. The battery should be in a box. ABYC specifies that the battery be covered--if it is not covered it is not to ABRC specs. C Dory is now NMMA certified (as of June apparently as far as I can tell), and if there is no covering of the battery this is wrong. There are lots of places to put the battery--I wouldn't say that putting it inbetween the two tanks was essentailly wrong--it does block access to the drain and to the bilge pump--not sure you want to do that. Also we stored several other items in this area...
 
thataway":3qi7cu97 said:
First, if the dealer put screws into the actually bottom...
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I believe I will be going back to the dealer and have them place the battery in a more appropriate area.


Thank you very much.
 
I've had a battery (group 27) in a box between the tanks for 20 years with no problems.

Just make sure it's properly anchored and always covered like Bob describes above. The straps around the box allow you to move it to get access to the bilge pump.

Put the plug in the drain passage from the outside so that you can remove it easily from the outside when the boat's on the trailer to wash out and drain the cockpit.

I'd save the port lazarette for a live well or something else really important, but it's your choice.

It's really wrong to have the battery only in a tray w/o a a full box and top cover. Any metal conductor across the exposed terminals will run a current of ~600 amps @ 12.7 volts, or 7000-8000 watts*! Probably twice that if both batteries are connected together in parallel by the battery switch! Might just heat up and even melt the handle of your fishnet a bit!

*Equivalent to the heat output of 5 portable electric room heaters!

Cheers!

Joe.:teeth
 
Both my batteries are between the fuel tanks. I believe this is the standard set up from the dealer, Cutter Marine in MD but, as the second owner, I can't say for sure.

Does anyone know if the factory has given their dealers any directions on where to put them?

Phil
 
I have two motors and three batteries on my 22 cruiser. House battery and switches are in the starboard lazarette, two motor batteries are in the port lazarette. Neither lazarette is thus useful for anything else but that fine by me. The space between my fuel tanks is used for stern tie reel, bailing/bait bucket, etc. Many people have their batteries there but I would be uncomfortable with that arrangement.
 
The boat would be better balanced with the batteries in the middle of the boat and down low more than any other stern position. More room for larger than group 24 batteries. Lazaretes are now available for other stuff. If you go with a main engine and a kicker the kicker could be mounted on either side without worry of the batteries location from a balance standpoint.

If I could do over and in your situation I would move both batteries (in battery boxes) to the middle floor. to keep the weight down low, better ride on waves at trolling speeds or adrift and have at least group 27's which (don't like to fit in the lazaret) are even heavier. That would go a long way in solving listing problems a lot of boats experience. Especially after mounting a kicker.

If you are worried about the look of the exposed battery boxes lots of folks make a drop down curtain to cover that whole area. With these boats, the setup is what makes the most sense too you and your intended use. The ability to easily modify them is endless. Enjoy your new boat.
 
I purchased my 22 Cruiser from Cutter Marine and they do in fact mount the dual batteries between the fuel tanks. (see page two of my photo album). This frees up the lazarettes and makes battery servicing and removing quite easy. Both batteries are enclosed in battery boxes. I still had enough room to install another bilge pump and the pump for the trim tabs in the area between and to the rear of the batteries. There is room for a 5 gal Blitz can of emergency gas as well and I can put some light weight stuff like a garden hose (coil type) in a bag on top of the battery box. The whole affair is covered from view with a Sunbrella snap in cover, also supplied by Cutter.

The port lazarette comes plumbed with a drain. I found a soft sided cooler that fits into this lazarette. Holds ice for a day and a half. I plumbed the softside with a drain and it works great. No other cooler necessary for a day trip.

Hope this helps with your question.

John
Swee Pea
 
Swee Pea":2ei5nqor said:
I purchased my 22 Cruiser from Cutter Marine and they do in fact mount the dual batteries between the fuel tanks. (see page two of my photo album). This frees up the a
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I guess the issue I have is the dealer never put the battery in a box and everything is exposed.
 
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