cracks, leaks, foam, and old bad work.

I have well over 200 hours on our 2006 22'. Most of the hours are spent fishing in the Pacific ocean out of Westport. Most of the time either going in or out crossing the Chehalis river bar is rough, as in 5' to 9' nasties.
I do NOT have any stress cracks any where. The only damage done is when I tie up to a dock during a c-brat get together and get to spend the night riding out 50 mph winds.
 
The dealership repaired the cracks and I inspected them last Saturday. They said the backing structure was not cracked, only the gelcoat. Time will tell but for now they are fixed. I've got my fingers crossed.

At the end of the day, anything that can be built can be fixed (or replaced).
 
Hi all,
This thread is very distressing. Several of us run "old school" Classics, all of which are old enough to drink, and some old enough to rent a car. Aside from a few reported transom problems in the last few years, most are still chugging along, seaworthy and fit for the service in which they are engaged. I'm beginning to wonder if the same may be said about the newer boats twenty years hence.

Our old boats built the C-Dory reputation. If you have needed repairs done on newer boats, make sure they are twenty-year repairs. Your modern boats will carry the C-Dory reputation forward, or not.

Just my thoughts.

Mike
 
As usual, this is a wealth of info. Makes me wonder what are the "'good" yrs of manufacture vs. the "bad"? Large cracks, water leaks...yikes. :crook I'll keep reading and researching.

I've read about references to the "old factory" and it seems you old-timers like the quality & service etc better.
What changed? Ownership?

I'm also now considering the value of a factory warranty. Value e.g. the cost of purchasing a new boat vs a used one. Guess when the time comes I'll have to make that decision.
 
I'm with Larry Q, we have a 2005 CD22 and love the boat. No cracks, no problems. C-Dancer has provided countless hours of enjoyment in a hobby I knew nothing about when we purchased her three years ago. I'm ecstatic that the first boat I owned was a C-Dory and wouldn't have traded any of these experiences the last three years for anything.

So how many boats has the factory produced under the Reynolds family ownership, hundreds? And how many reported problems, a handful? That's fine, you wannabes keep thinking that the quality is bad and that C-Dory's workmanship has gone down the toilet, we'll keep cruising and fishing the beautiful waters of the Pacific NW, enjoying every minute in our "flawed" (NOT) boat.

I, for one am almost at the end of my rope constantly reading these posts from potential buyers who are scared off by the quality problems of the newer boats. Enough so that I'm thinking I might be done with this site soon. I am certain my head is not stuck in the sand, I know there have been documented QC issues the past 2-3 years, but that's not going to change my mind about OUR boat, we love it and plan on enjoying her for the next 15 years or more.

Good luck in finding the perfect boat.


Peter
C-Dancer
 
My 25 yr. old C-dory has a crack in the gel coat on the starboard gunnel right where it meets the rear of the cabin. It has been there approx. 10 yrs. and gets no bigger. I sealed it with boat caulk and it is fine. Other than that it is in great shape and ready for it's 25th season. :D
 
Peter,

Does it really matter what the newbies ask or worry about?

You have your boat and its a good one, and you are still backed by the factory warranty. You are not worried about resale value, as you plan on enjoying your boat for the next 15 years, as I enjoyed owning my c-Dory for 15 years. I know no one here owns any part of the C-Dory factory because its a privately held company.

In reality, some boats have had problems, some minor and some major, but, like you said, most have not. For those who have had some problems, where would they be without this support group to help solve those problems?
 
Quote: "Does it really matter what the newbies ask or worry about? "

I think it does as I am about to spend about $60 g on (I was about to say one of your boats) but really it's a C-Dory not your boat Larry H. Remember just be nice! I think you should be encouraging people to buy these boats instead on slandering them.
 
Coal Miner,

Sorry, I should have said "Does it really matter to you, Peter, what the newbies ask or worry about"

The comment was directed to Peter and his being fed up with the QC questions.

As a prospective C-Dory buyer, you have every right to ask about and worry about QC problems. Like Peter said, out of hundreds of boats built some have had problems. The factory has repaired all problems that have occurred under warranty. The warranty is for 5 years to the original buyer.

As has been mentioned, all products, especially boats, can have problems. The question then, is whether the factory will stand behind the boats. C-Dory has.

I am not quite sure what you mean when you say:

"I think it does as I am about to spend about $60 g on (I was about to say one of your boats) but really it's a C-Dory not your boat Larry H. Remember just be nice! I think you should be encouraging people to buy these boats instead on slandering them."

I owned my C-Dory for 15 years and had to sell as I could not take the vibration any more(ain't old age fun! LOL), and bought an 'old man's boat', my trawler.

I am not selling any boats, and this site doesn't make any money on any boat sold. The listings are for the benefit of the members who are selling, and for the buyers, and unless a member has a boat for sale, no one has any vested interest in the selling.

I have good will towards all members and wish both sellers and buyers success.

Again, sorry if I wasn't being nice.

Perhaps we will see you up-coast sometime!!

Larry H
 
Hi Coal MIner,

I've seen a couple circumstances now where you've taken offense to the term "wannabe". Please understand that this is not the same derogatory term used by some to describe "posers and pretenders." Around this place, a wannabe is a person with a desire to own a C-Dory. And they are certainly welcomed and encouraged to ask questions and learn about the boats and the folks who own them. I speak from experience, because I came here with questions and a desire to learn specifics, and now own a C-Dory.

It may be the pre-buying jitters, since you are close to plunking down your cash. I had some of those concerns when, after placing the order for my boat, I read some posts about QC concerns. It turns out, those concerns educated me on things to look for when we picked up our (then) new boat. We worked through a few issues and are very pleased with our boat. As we've documented here, we use the boat a lot, and I'm not shy about calling it as I see it.

Bottom line, the factory under the Reynolds' ownership has produced more boats per year than before. The boats have more systems than before. There have been changes to the basic boats (like molded interiors) that some see as improvements and some think are blasphemy. And in today's world, anyone with an issue can be on-line in a heartbeat. These are good boats that fill a niche and seem to attract enthusiastic, passionate people. If you know what the boat's capabilities are and those attributes align with how you intend to use your boat, there isn't much else on the market that comes close. And the best part - every one of these boats comes with this amazing owners group resource at NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE! :mrgreen:

So, welcome aboard. Many of us know where you are in this process. You want to know that you are getting value for your boating bucks. There are options - new, used, different sizes and models. Sounds like you've narrowed it down to a 22. It's a great boat. People have taken them to places many boaters would fear to tread. I've certainly bumped heads with the factory folks (we bought direct back when that was an option), but I haven't seen or heard of a case where the factory didn't support an owner with a warranty issue.

The more I use this boat, the more it impresses me. Knowing what I know now, after our experience, I would certainly buy the boat again. Only difference - I would have bought it sooner.

Good luck with the decision making.

Best wishes,
Jim B.
 
Anyone read the latest Passagemaker? They have an article about the delivery of a million plus Krogen, brand new from the factory. Had a water leak from plumbing not tightned and one tranmission wouldn't shift. And this was the very first time the boat was run after delivery from the factory. I wonder how many other problems had to be worked through before everything was tidied up? I think boats and problems needing to be fixed go hand in hand. In all brands and price points.
Ron
 
Well said, Jim. I believe the "newbies" remark is what sparked the reaction, and I must confess; when I read it, it immediately pushed a button in me too. But I choose my battles and this is supposed to be fun.

That said, as a newbie/non-owner the reason I come here are obvious; info, camaraderie, advice from experienced C-Dory owners, past experience etc. I'm obviously glad that the issues w/ QC are apparently few & the factory seems willing to stand behind any issues. I am now even considering purchasing new so I have the warranty (but that may mean a 22' vs a 25'. :cry:) The boat fits exactly what we were looking for and after considering other manufacturers we are committed to purchasing a cruiser, preferably a 25'.

To those owners that have had no problems; good for you. But like cars, I've had lemons and I've had great vehicles and apparently all C-Dory's are not alike. I don't consider it "bashing". I think an honest sharing of issues/problems is positive & productive. JMO.
 
Ron on Meander":2rr35hpf said:
Anyone read the latest Passagemaker? They have an article about the delivery of a million plus Krogen, brand new from the factory. Had a water leak from plumbing not tightned and one tranmission wouldn't shift. And this was the very first time the boat was run after delivery from the factory. I wonder how many other problems had to be worked through before everything was tidied up? I think boats and problems needing to be fixed go hand in hand. In all brands and price points.
Ron
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Ditto from my research....no brand at no cost level avoids the QC nonsense.

My dealership also sells Mainship trawlers for example and they had a $600,000K 40 something footer with similar installation problems.
 
Jim B,

Thank you, your eloquence is quite impressive and always appreciated. No one on this site writes quite like you. :thup Your answer was spot-on.


Coal Miner,

There are quite a few C-Dory owners on the island. Have you had a chance to take a sea trial on a C-Dory with either a dealer or an owner? You'll be able to get even more information to process after having been on the boat in the water.

We all realize that C-Dory's are not for everyone. As Jim wrote, they are a niche boat and each buyer has to decide what they're looking for in a boat and how they will be using it. Good luck in your decision-making.

Peter
 
from another thread I errantly posted this in, meant for here:

I'm proud to be a wannabe. My next boat will most likely be a 22 Angler, most likely used. I really enjoy hearing the good and bad, I'm here mainly to listen and learn. It's takes the good and the bad to learn and gain knowledge.

I imagine I'm like most wannabes, with a lot of boating experience and experiences that I will share when relevant. I have the utmost respect for the members here, happy that I am allowed to be part of it, and I want to hear the shit also. Every boat has it's issues, know about them, anticipating the problems and having solutions makes this a richer experience.

Call me a wannabe all you want, I even call myself that (my screen name), proudly.
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Quote:There are quite a few C-Dory owners on the island.

I just saw a green 22 cruiser today in Nanaimo. Looked brand new.

Quote:Have you had a chance to take a sea trial on a C-Dory with either a dealer or an owner?

I haven't yet but I think that will be my next step.

We all realize that C-Dory's are not for everyone. As Jim wrote, they are a niche boat and each buyer has to decide what they're looking for in a boat and how they will be using it. Good luck in your decision-making.

Thank you for the reply and I guess Jim nailed it on the head with the pre-purchase jidders comment. I have calmed down and I'm back to my researching.

Peter[/quote]
 
Coal Miner":sn07k7bv said:
Have you had a chance to take a sea trial on a C-Dory with either a dealer or an owner?

I haven't yet but I think that will be my next step.
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If you don't go out with a Canadian C22 owner, consider coming to Friday Harbor or Anacortes next month to hang out with us -- I am sure you will get many boat ride offers there. (Click on Event Signups, located right under the website logo at top of page, to get more info.)

Warren
 
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