CD16 Fuel Tanks - Range for Lake Powell

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Pat Anderson

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OK, we are contemplating taking the CD16 Crabby Lou to Lake Powell in September (hello, Rana Verda Chris, are you out there?). Right now, we have a single 12 gallon portable fuel tank. It would definitely be easy to add a second 12 gallon tank, for a total of 24 gallons. As far as I can tell so far, the old Johnson 40 two stoke turns in 5 - 6 statute miles per gallon...this leaves me a bit uneasy about our range and cruising on Lake Powell...so, my questions are, how far between fuel stops? What have other folks with CD16s done there?
 
Dangling Rope is about 41 miles plus another 3 to 5 depends on where you launch--and Halls' crossing/bulldog is 95 miles from Page launching areas.--so 50 mile range will get you from marina to marina--with not much reserve. A 120 mile range should allow you do do pretty much what you want with some side canyon trips--and occasionally back to marina for fuel. We generally fill up when we get ice etc--and never got much below half tanks on the CD 22.
 
Right around 50 miles between fuel stop. Bullfrog and Halls @mm95, Dangling Rope@mm40, Antelope @mm 5 or 6 in maytag straights, Hite is out of the water right now, but it is @mm 140. Google Stan Jones map it is a very good map for site seeing. Fishing maps are good for fishing. Just bring 2 or 3 5 gallon cans and a wonder pump siphon hose, they work great.
 
Pat – it looks like 24 gallons will give you 120+ mile range you would want on Lake Powell. If you carry extra gas, do it in 2 or 2 ½ gallon containers. Five gallon containers are hard to manage in a rocking boat when you want to refill your fuel tanks. The 2 gallon containers are ten times as easy to use. You can also use them as ballast to balance the boat.
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Dave You are right about the smaller containers. Thats why I use the Wonder pump siphon hose. It has a copper fitting on one end with a glass ball in it. I just set a 5 gallons of gas on the Lazaret put the siphon hose in the fuel port and the copper end in the gas can, then you shake the copper end up and down that starts the siphon. It will drain the can bone dry and you don't have to hold the can and you won't spill a drop. On my Fourwinns you would have to hang over the side to refuel. With the hose you can relax and let it do the work. 2-1/2 gal cans would be a lot easier to hide in the boat. I usually empty the cans as soon as I can so I just have the empties to deal with.
 
Yeah, I will just have to get another 12 gallon portable tank and carry a bit more gas (I do have one of those siphons like Jody described, it is slick).
 
I ran my 16'er with a Yamaha 50 200 miles on Powell last spring and burned about 38 gals. total. I have a 14 gal. tank under the transom and 2 six gal spares. I always had plenty of fuel.
 
Yes, 38 gallons for 200 miles computes to 5.2 mpg, that is about the same as the old Johnson 40 turns in I think. I will have two 12 gallon tanks, and probably 5 more in a plastic gas container. I will probably want to be looking for gas to top off about every 80 miles or so. I am not familiar enough with Lake Powell and where the fuel is, I would sure like to have a bit more range however.
Steve Grover":kc236hhj said:
I ran my 16'er with a Yamaha 50 200 miles on Powell last spring and burned about 38 gals. total. I have a 14 gal. tank under the transom and 2 six gal spares. I always had plenty of fuel.
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Thanks, Jody - I just ordered the Stan Jones map. Right now we can only dream about Lake Powell, blue skies and sunshine...
jkidd":2j7aglyy said:
Right around 50 miles between fuel stop. Bullfrog and Halls @mm95, Dangling Rope@mm40, Antelope @mm 5 or 6 in maytag straights, Hite is out of the water right now, but it is @mm 140. Google Stan Jones map it is a very good map for site seeing. Fishing maps are good for fishing. Just bring 2 or 3 5 gallon cans and a wonder pump siphon hose, they work great.
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Hey Pat..... Here''s an idea.... Sue and I will probably go now that she will be retired..... and we could carry a couple of spare cans for you....


Joel
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Pat,

I have a 1986 Boston Whaler Super Sport 17 with a 90 HP Johnson on it and have made many trips to Lake Powell with it in the past. Most of these trips were for three day weekends. The Whaler is equipped with two 12 gallon tanks. On my Lake Powell trips I would carry two extra 5 gallon plastic containers of gas. I usually put in at Halls Crossing and only once did I have to buy additional gas at Dangling Rope when we went all the way down to Rainbow Bridge.

If you stay at cruising speed most the time I think you should be fine with two 12 gallon tanks and one 5 gallon in reserve. Two might be better if you have room and don't mind the additional weight.

I purchased a C-Dory 22 last September and have not made it to Lake Powell with it yet. I am shooting for Memorial Day weekend. I will watch for further developments on this September gathering and would like to be able to go along on it.

Bill
 
What I don't understand is why you would take a CD 16' when you have a CD 25'? Outside of the 4 marinas, its beach camping. For two adults you would be much more comfortable sleeping and cooking on the CD25'. Are you planning on sleeping in a tent, or on the boat? Just my 2 cents worth.
 
I have a 16-Angler and am able to carry 27.5 gals - all comprised of 3-tanks under the transom well >> they are:
one 6-gallon tank
one 12-gallon tank
one 9.5 gallon tank.

Looking at the stern, from the cabin > I have placed the tanks (starting on the left) 6-gallon, then 12-gallon, then 9.5-gallon. I have a Suzuki 55-HP, which gets about 5 to 6 MPG, so with that, I'm able to go about 150 miles (+/-). Of course...as any good boater...I wouldn't want to push it to that limit. :)

All the tanks are red-plastic tanks, purchased at West Marine.

Happy boating....

Dave T.
Seattle, WA
 
The spirit of adventure, Brent! This will be a camping trip more than a cruise! And boat fuel and tow vehicle fuel cost are a factor...we will have a small tent for shore camping, but I am still working on the idea of sleeping on-board. The main obstacle to being able to stretch out is the pedestal style seats. If anybody has an idea here about what to replace them with I would sure welcome hearing from them! Was also toying with the idea of opening up the cuddy on the port side and putting in a CD16 Cruiser style sleeping platform and cushions - Patty kind of vetoed that. I still like the idea myself - the weight would be farther forward than in the Cruiser and the boat would have overall better balance I think. If I could go for a month or several months, we would definitely take the CD25...but to drive a couple of thousand miles for 10 days or two weeks, the light little CD16 seems appealing!



Discovery":2llu94e2 said:
What I don't understand is why you would take a CD 16' when you have a CD 25'? Outside of the 4 marinas, its beach camping. For two adults you would be much more comfortable sleeping and cooking on the CD25'. Are you planning on sleeping in a tent, or on the boat? Just my 2 cents worth.
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To amplify a bit, according to Google Maps, it is 1200 miles even from Preston, WA (where we hop on I-90) to Wahweap, AZ, the closest launch ramp coming from our direction. Mountain Home, ID, is 527 miles from Preston, which would be a pretty good first day towing anything...I probably don't have the stamina to do that anyway. This is a two and a half day (or more) trip each way, any way you slice it...so five days (at least, we actually like to stop for potty breaks and lunch!). With a 2400 mile round trip, I will have to take two weeks off to get one week on the lake...
 
Pat-

I know you're stuck between the dilemma of taking your smaller, easier to tow CD-16 and your much larger CD-25. Your former CD-22 would be a much better alternative to either for this particular trip!

Why not offer to trade usage of your CD-25 for usage of their CD-22 with someone you know and trust near your home or, better yet, someone much closer to Lake Powell?

This may be difficult from the trust point of view, but otherwise would work to solve some of these transport issues.

Expanded further, we could set up a thread to exchange usage or rental of C-Dorys between experienced and trusted C-Brats. This would allow some very interesting alternatives, such as a PNW CD owner the chance to escape the winter in Florida (and maybe attend a CBGT there), and the Florida C-Brat to vacation in the San Juans in summer, and likewise attend a CBGT!

This may seem like a difficult concept to implement, but I would certainly trust many of the C-Brat crowd with my boat, knowing their competence and experiences from their posting.

Joe. :thup :teeth
 
Joe - you might not recall, but I have actually experienced what you are talking about with a borrowed boat. We were going to Patty's nephew's wedding on Long Island in June 2005, and Bill and El talked us into coming a week early for the 2005 Eastern Shore gathering. Tom Callahan, who is a State Department guy and lives in Alexandria, VA, contacted us out of the blue with an offer to use Otter for the week between the CBGT and the wedding. We stayed in Bill and El's camper for the weekend of the gathering, which was fantastic (thanks to Terraplane Tom and Charlie and the whole crew back there), and then on Sunday afternoon we took off on Otter with Halcyon, Wanderer (George and Penny), Cresent Girl (Dun and Becky) and an unnamed Tomcat 24 (Fred and Deb) for a marvelous week of cruising on the Chesapeake. I have offered Tom the use of Daydream any time, but so far he has not been able to take us up on the offer. Maybe after the next inauguration! I would not want to try to do this on a regular basis though.

Anyway, on our beach walk today (yes, Jim - TWO FOR TWO!!), Patty started mentally calculating - 1200 miles each way, 10 miles per gallon with the Titan towing Daydream, $3.00 per gallon, well, it is no more than when we buy plane tickets and get a hotel in New Orleans, right? It is our vacation, right? So it is looking more and more like it could be the CD25 instead of the CD16 - one way or another, we are going to be at Lake Powell in September!! I'd be good with doing it either way...
 
Well...gosh...I wouldn't discourage anyone wanting to do Lake Powell in a 16. Jon & Patty did it in a 12 foot inflatable! But that was before they got Sea Shanti...a 22. Steve cruised with us on his 16 and did fine. Although Sidney must have said something because right after that Steve was looking for a bigger boat! I just think that for the relatively small premium...on about the third day...I wouldn't want to be thinking I shoulda brought the 25!
I know it's hard to convey...but this is truly a fabulous lake. And any way you can do it ...do it! I know many people who have wide cruising experience...Bob & Marie...El & Bill...who rate this body of water very high if not at the top of their list. It's worth some extra time...a long drive...dragging the bigger boat...whatever...to experience the place.
So...anyway...sounds like we need a Lake Powell 2008 cruise thread!
 
My cousins who were on "Trash Tracker" the shore line clean up boat, last Sept. sent me an E-mail yesterday telling me that they had the same week this year. They wanted to know if we were joining the C Brats up there again this year?

Yes, Lake Powell is one of the Must Do's in the US waters. I would definately vote for the 25. It can get choppy--and as you can see from the photos last year-it can be very rainy==all be it in short peroids. So you want a boat that you will be comfortable staying in for a day, if you have to...
 
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