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Tom on Icarus

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I would like to have a sloped canvas cover made for the cockpit of our CD25. If anyone has this setup, I would like to see photos. Especially of how it fits around the rails and splashwell at the stern. If I had photos, I could take them to the canvas maker and give him an idea. Just looking at it myself, it looks pretty complicated back there.
So if anyone would direct me to the photos in their album, or take some photos of their setup for me, I would be very grateful :D

Thanks Brats,
Tom
 
I don't have photos, but the details is fairly easy. You take the cover straight down the sides of the cabin--use the same fasteners as the camper back if you have it. Then along below the gunnel. You can come over the gunnel and just to the beginning of the splash well--many of the camper backs use that same technique--along the upper part of the spash well all of the way across.
 
Still Crazy has a sloped cover for trailering that is snapped just under the rear cabin overhang using twist lock type fasteners. I learned that trailering in a cross wind can un snap the standard snap fasteners, so replaced them in that area. All the rest are standard snaps. The back end of the top of the cover snaps across the front inside area of the splash well. The sides snap down the outside of the cabin sides, and along the outside of the gunnels, just above the rub rails. The top also has velcro openings to go around the camper back supports as I leave them up when trailering.

Any decent canvas shop will do a good job if you explain to them where you want to keep the rain and leaves and dust and dirt out of. HOWEVER, remember to use twist locks along the top edge of the cover where it meets the rear of the cabin. Standard snaps work well for me everywhere else, though I'm wouldn't have any snaps without my handy dandy snap setting and removal tool.
 
potter water":26lejehk said:
Still Crazy has a sloped cover for trailering that is snapped just under the rear cabin overhang using twist lock type fasteners. I learned that trailering in a cross wind can un snap the standard snap fasteners, so replaced them in that area.
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Another option for the forward edge might be an awning rail (with a corresponding bolt rope on the cover at that point). I've found that to be a good way to go on the forward edge of dodgers, which also "head into the wind." My 22 came with a bimini cover which is fastened to the after end of the cabin-top with an awning rail/bolt rope (and one snap on either end). I'm considering options for a boat cover and/or a slant back and was thinking I could probably use the same awning rail that my bimini uses for a slant back.
 
As sunbeam suggests--an awning rail is far better than twist lock snaps for the top forward of either a slant back or Bimini. The awning rail is standard for most Bimini tops--and as I illustrated on the Tom Cat, works very well on the cabin sides of a camper back.
 
We used the same zipper that our camper top uses on the rear of the cabin. It also uses most of the same sanps. We left the motor well open . See pictures on the left of the home page under recent photos listed as a slant back cover.
D.D.
 
Thanks all for the replies.
Maybe I am just not familiar with the term but I don't know what a awning rail / bolt rope is. Is it the ropelike end of the canvas that slides into a tube that has been split open from end to end?
Still would like to see how the sloping canvas wraps around the back rails and transome well.

Tom
 
Tom on Icarus":34pmtl0o said:
I would like to have a sloped canvas cover made for the cockpit of our CD25. If anyone has this setup, I would like to see photos. Especially of how it fits around the rails and splashwell at the stern. If I had photos, I could take them to the canvas maker and give him an idea. Just looking at it myself, it looks pretty complicated back there.
So if anyone would direct me to the photos in their album, or take some photos of their setup for me, I would be very grateful :D

Thanks Brats,
Tom
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Tom, are you looking for a mooring cover, which is used to cover the aft from cabin top to the stern, or are you looking for a camper canvas which you can have on and set up while using the boat? There is a difference.

Here is a mooring cover:

IMGP2440.thumb.jpg and to the right is a camper canvas on a 16. old_chip_2_GB_440.thumb.jpg

and here is a Storage cover:

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If I was ordering either a storage cover or a mooring cover, I would insist that it cover both the splash well and the OB tops. Even with my storage cover coming almost all the way back to the front of the splash well, I still get leaves, dust and spiders in the cockpit.

Harvey
SleepyC :moon
 

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I have pics in my Mods album.
The cover zips to the same awning rail as the bimini. I now have about 10,000 road miles on it and it's doing well. It has the stronger snaps and towards the end of my recent trip they needed a little vaseline to make them less aggrevating to remove.
Let me know if you want more info.

Bruce Cassal
Carpy
 
Hi Tom;
The 2005 CD25 had an optional Cockpit Cover that cost $550 (in 09/2004)which is much like a mooring cover.

I have never used mine but the first few months in 2004 immediately after my CD25 delivery. After this time I had a Camper Back Cockpit Cover made (I paid ~$2900), even though I was in dry storage.

You may want to define what your needs and wants are here. The Camper Back enclosure can run $2000 to $3500+ if you have it custom made by a shop (my guess). My Camper Back has both the 'glass & screens' options, so it could have cost a lot less.

My Camper Back uses all the same snaps as the factory Cockpit Cover which simplified the configuration. Good luck on your search.

Art
 
Here is how I did the cockpit cover on our 22. The snaps were already on the boat for the camperback. I sewed awning rope into the top of the subrella, no zipper needed, just slide it into the roof track before you start snapping. I came back later and added a cutout for the camperback frame. There are a few more photos in our album.

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Kevin
 
Thanks for the photos Harvey and Kevin. I still would like to see how a mooring cover fits on the CD25, since that is the boat we have. The 25 has a railing that wraps around at the back and seats built into the sides of the splashwell......much diffferent than the 22 at the back.
Still, all of your inputs are greatly appreciated and you all have some great information to share.

Tom
 
Tom,
You are correct as to the setup of the CD25 cover. The cover does go inside of the side rails (but snaps along the gunwale). It is set along the forward top inside of the splash well, along the gunwales, up the sides of the cabin and across the roof, forward of the the molded lip above the cabin door.

The full camper back on Sea Angel shares all the snaps that are used with the mooring cover. It is a very tight cover when set.

Hope I did not confuse you.

http://www.c-brats.com/modules.php?set_ ... _photo.php

Maybe this will help. Here is a photo of Sea Angel and crew. Notice the snaps along the rails and splash well as well as how the top is snapped to the roof.

Art
 
HI Tom,

I know the 25 has the rails and is set up differently. OK. The same principal apply. If I was doing a mooring cover, I would want it tight, snug and cover everything.

See how this one is not so tight, and fits inside the cockpit? I would look to avoid that. I would probably figure a way to run a line, (1/4" nylon, temporarily -- for when the cover is being used -- that would help support the weight, -- wet, leaves, or snow load -- aside from just the snaps.

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On my cover, (that goes over the bow pulpit), it has reinforcement for the rails, cleats and the radar, and the same could be done on the 25. I would run a single line from the handrails on the cabin top, down to outside the splashwell, and do that on each side of the cockpit. And then I would run a second set of lines from the same handholds on top diagonally across the cockpit to the opposite corner, again to help support the canvas load.

:idea: If you are making this cover, or having it made, you have some input in how it is done and how well it will work. Make sense :?:

Harvey
SleepyC :moon
 
Tom;
If it would help I will try to remove my camper back and mount the cockpit cover. The cover has been several years in storage and I have to get my hands on it. Hopefully any pixs I can get will answer all your questions. This hopefully will be next week, as long as I find my "Note To Self" (old man stuff :roll: ). Besides, I should have a pix of it for my documentation.

I do remember how challenging it was till it got stretched a little for the fitting. The factory cover serves as both a mooring and travel cover. When it was in use I did not have any water, or stuff, in the cockpit or bilge.

Harvey is absolutely right as to the setup needs. I think the pix displayed above does show the snap locations along the rails to allow for a tight fit. The owner seems to have left the canvas loose for access, at least while he appears to be retrieving the boat toward a dock or ramp. ( Just an opinion.)

Art
 
Art,
Please don't go to any trouble to find and deploy your mooring/travel cover. I see the snap pattern at the stern in your pics and I think I can figure it out.
I just thought if someone had pics, already taken, I could see them.
Really, a good canvas maker should be able to figure it out.....you're right.

Thanks everyone for your help.

Cheers, :beer
Tom
 
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