C-Dory Quality Control

A lot of what Pascoe talks about is the compression that large, heavy
hulls take when slamming the water. Apparently the core can be
crushed. This doesn't seem to apply as much to a 22' C-Dory.

I've never bothered to look up the layout of the failed Sea Rays, but
I wonder if the balsa is as thick and if the inner and out skins are done the
way a C-Dory is, or at least commersurate with the respective boat
weights. Did Sea Ray use endgrain balsa?

Anyhow, there do not seem to be any recorded cases of CD-22s failing,
and they have been around for a long time.

Mike
 
Sea Ray used end grain balsa--(so did Bertum and a number of other boats at one time or another). The Sea Ray lay up is actually less outside mat and roving than the origion CDory 22's. Plus there are much larger unsuported pannels. This is compounded by stringers which had wood cores, and have failed due to water intrusion.
 
pcator":1lrz82c3 said:
I'm just glad C-Dory doesn't complain about my boat handling. My QC is if it can handle my docking then it is good.

LOL!!!!!
I've always heard that most hull damage occurs while loading/unloading and trailering. I haven't seen yor docking technique Pat, but your boat certainly appeared to have been loaded onto the trailer with skill....but that was Donna wasn't it? :)
 
RE:

This is compounded by stringers which had wood cores, and have failed due to water intrusion.


Yup, we can attest to this, $4000 off our agreed selling price later. Ouch!

Bonnie
 
I'm just glad C-Dory doesn't complain about my boat handling. My QC is if it can handle my docking then it is good.

Also LOL! It sounds like the criteria for landing an airplane. Sometimes, depending on weather and/or prevailing winds, it is best to plant the plane pretty firmly on the runway rather than 'greasing it on'. This may not be as comfortable, and may not appear to be the 'smoothest' landing to the untrained eye, but is actually the best, and safest option under the circumstances. The ultimate criterion, therefore is: "If it didn't bend the airplane, it was a good landing."

Seriously, though, your comment does raise a thought-provoking issue. As a wannabe (and distant past sometime sailor), my personal ability and "QC' will certainly be, at least in the beginning, far below the C-D QC!

Related to this, it is frequently mentioned that the purpose of the boat, and the fit for your family size, goals, and so on, is so very important. I believe that makes it even more important for C-Dory to pay particular attention to excellent, even exemplary, design and QC. Most small boats I see parked in the driveway or side yard are going to be used during the day, for a moderate number of hours, on the local lakes and rivers. They will go out for skiing, fishing, or partying. There is no excuse for building junk, but in most cases the repercussions will be economic, not life threatening.

If (when) I get a C-Dory, it is because I want to know the boat parked outside my door is capable of doing the Inside Passage, or ICW. Then it becomes my responsibility to insure that I am capable as well.

iggy
 
I have had a 2007 TomCat 255 for 7 months now..have put 160 hrs on it and have had NO problems......A-1 quality...I run ocean offshore in heavy seas sometimes 80 miles out from San Francisco......they have worked out all the minor problems the earlier Hulls had....just like a new model cars do. Almost Everyone who has been on my boat has been greatly impressed and want to buy one!!

Dick
255 TomCat
Berkeley Marina
California
 
We did fine in BC last year with our Verizon and extended coverage calling once a week etc. However the situation has changed with decline of Marie's mother's health, and we need to have good contact on a daily basis. What sort of cell coverage will we find in SE AK?

I suspect that an Iridium satellite phone is in our future --either rental or purchase...We would go with Ham phone patches, but emergency incoming are very important.

Thanks for any input from those who live up there--and recently cruised SE AK.
 
Bob,

When we were in SE in 07, our Sprint cell phones worked in all the major towns. There was loss of signal at some point between towns. There was no coverage out in the 'boonies'!
 
Bobm My niece is visiting from SanDiego and has Verizon service. She reports that it seems to work ok in most locals around Juneau but is spotty around our house near Auke Bay,
 
I get good reception out front of Meyers Chuck on Clarence Strait. There is a tower between Thorne bay and Coffman Cove. I use Sprint.



JT :smiled
 
Bob;
If you are serious about a sat phone, we have a Iridium that we use up at our cabin on Harrison lake as there is a big hill between us and the nearest cell tower.
We buy a "Northern Lights" package that is good for 6 months and costs 210.00 That includes 200 minutes of call time.
I renew it at the beginning of May and we have it until the end of Oct.
I will be meeting my guy next week to get a new SIM number. I can ask him about rentals if you are interested.
Tnx, Jimbo
 
First my appologies to all, I must have goofed up when I was putting up a new topic (too many stresses around our house right now!)

Thanks for the information.

The "northern lights" package sounds ideal. Please I would appreciate any further information.

I have found a "returned" phone from a person coming off a tour of duty in Iraq with 370 minutes at a good price. I would have to transfer service. Renting is certainly an option, but for 3 months it may be close to a cut off vs buying, especially if one needs it several years. Plus we always have those pesky hurricanes! (lets hope they stay away this year).
 
I don't have a sat phone but, I do have a new 16 Cruiser. The only Q.C. issue we have seen was that the foam filled bow was only about 2/3rds "full". Doubt that it mattered, as this was a sealed compartment. I removed some of this foam for an anchor locker anyway. Using the "tap tap" method I'am fairly certain the sides are properly filled. I'm still finding construction and detail touches on the boat that just my make me feel even better that we spent the extra money for the C-Dory. I have tremendous faith that in the event of a problem, Sportcraft Marine and/or the factory will take good care of us. That is hard to put a figure on. After sale support has been very strong from dealer and factory in our case. This is from a consumer that purchased their least expensive model (I refuse to say "cheapest" model)
 
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